jrcart

Ya, I don't know what I am talking about......SMH my car laid down the quickest non-corrected real world stock baseline number that I have seen to date(if any of you have video proof of a stock GT-S going any quicker uncorrected I am all ears. My pass was done at nearly sea level and in great conditions and still only managed an 11.41. Most guys are laying down high 11's in stock form. Half of you probably don't even know what a corrected number is but you are on here spouting of E/T's like you guys are John Force or something.


Car and Driver 11.8 corrected to 11.5 and they also had a test where they posted a 11.2 but it was again a corrected time.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e-drive-review

Motor Week 11.6

Road & Track 11.7 corrected to 11.3


Here is a link to my thread and baseline passes. Car was bone stock with stock tires aired down to about 22psi

https://mbworld.org/forums/amg-gt-gt...ing-video.html

RobbieRob

Sorry, I can't find a 1/4 mile amateur driven gt3 to compare, and this is a GT3(11:21@123.69mph) and not an RS. Like I said in my previous post, the AMG GTs is typically an 11:40 car and the GT3rs is a 11:teens car(GT3 is a 11:high 20's car), driven by amateur's, not pro's or magazine testers,, just real world numbers for most owners. 1/2 mile is a different story, the GTs will definitely beat the GT3rs but it wont be as bad as in the original OP's video. In the video it doesn't show the GT3rs in front of the GTs at all, that's where the question comes to mind. And I still think the Huracan will beat a 570s. lol

jrcart

Do you have video proof of this? A very good friend of mine owns a C63S(sedan) and he was running 11.9's-12.0's all summer in it.

Car and Driver put down a 12.1 corrected to a 12.0

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

All you guys' "facts" and "knowledge" are truly amazing

cec69

Truth is, you just keep spouting the same old ****.

rsalco

My Z was a C6 M6; very different car to C7 A8. As far as being 'scary', the C6Z had a well-deserved reputation for snap-oversteer when applying power exiting turns. There was a very defined line you didn't want to cross. Converted to T1 specs - upper & lower control arms, springs, sway-bars, shocks, bushings - the limit is much increased with great stability, but it is still possible to induce snap-oversteer. Which certainly can get one's heart-rate up. I've stared at the turn 9 exit guardrail a time or two getting a little too exuberant with the power coming onto the West Tunnel chute. Quick hands being exceedingly important at that juncture......

AMG 17GT

Can't compare a mct c class....

Having a Senior moment ? You even commented on it in other drag thread

Petegtsv10

Pretty much. 650-700 hp is past the limit for a red car. You need to be aware and do most of your playing on warm roads with warm tires.

Vic55

Was this 100% stock? Trap speed seems very high...

AMG 17GT

Yeah it was a great run by John that he posted in his other drag thread. Hopefully he can chime in.

emericr

Jrcrat: not trying to discredit what you are saying but MT had 11.4 for the GT-S on the 2016 world greatest drag race and 11.6 for 2015. It did not seem like a "pro" set up on a professional drag strip but just a crude airport one.
Are the MT numbers corrected corrected or real in the video?
Dragtimes also shows 2 stock GTS at 11.3X.

jrcart

No way they ran a 11.40(uncorrected)on an unprepped runway. I have competed in over a dozen 1/2 mile and 1 mile runway shootouts and I can tell you that there is absolutely ZERO traction, that is why most airstrip events are rolling starts and not from a dig. I will bet the title of every vehicle I own and the deeds on the 3 houses I own and a night in bed with my wife if anyone can put down a GPS or V-Box verified 11.4 in a bone stock GT-S on a runway. I would honestly be very surprised if anyone could even lay down a 12.4 on an unprepped runway in a GT-S. Some of you guys seem to forget this is all I do, I actually race my cars at drag strips, airstrip events and road course events, I am not some noob with no clue and I learned years ago not to believe most of the stuff magazines publish.

RobbieRob

So true, real world vs magazine times are so far off. I've been around guys at the drag strip with their brand new cars(many different brand/models) and when they race their car, they can't figure out why it is going .5 -.8 seconds slower than what a magazine says. Then these people think right away that there is something wrong with their car..lol. Also, no one ever thinks about Temps, track surface temp, DA,, etc. Many things go into getting a fast or slow time at the drag strip and airway events, its never an identical condition.

MBWorld Editor

Front page news indeed!
https://mbworld.org/articles/mercede...he-911-gt3-rs/

rsalco

Silly stuff. Absolutely pointless given the design brief for any of these cars. Especially if you understand there are '32 Fords running around out there that can kill all of these super-cars in a 1/4-1/2 mile drag. Road-course shoot-outs are the measure of our cars' performance; it's what they are engineered to excel at.

jrcart

Yes, 100% agree and have seen the very same thing that's why I am not even going to comment on this thread any longer. Sometimes dealing with all these "experts" is like banging my head on a brick wall. I've got more track miles in my AMG's than some of these clowns have total miles on theirs but they will beat you down with all the "proof and facts" they find on places like You Tube, Facebook and Motor Trend TV....because everything you see on the internet is true, right lol? You mention DA, half these guys probably don't even know what that is. I've had my car strapped to the very same dyno for two days in a row and it has made nearly 10 less HP simply due to atmospheric and weather changes that occurred over night. Those very same +/- 10 hp on a real track with a real head wind, tail wind or cross wind can result in +/- 2/10th's of a second ET on a track. You only need to look as far as an NHRA top fuel event, one weekend the top guys are running 330+ mph passes and the next weekend the same guys on the same teams in the very same cars might be only(only lol) running 315mph, and we are talking about professionals, the best of the best... conditions play a huge roll in performance.

jrcart

Very true, the GT/GT-R is not a drag car. What is impressive about modern cars is how they get down the track. I have lined up at the drag strip against 9 second muscle cars that rip the front wheels off the ground and jump out to a 5 car lead and then I just reel them in and pass them, sometimes before the 1/8 mile point. I raced a 68 Camaro once and we finished in almost a tie, I think I won by under a tenth but afterwards watching the video I was amazed at the differences in the two cars moving down the track, they each had a very different launch, the Camaro jumped out to a huge lead, each car had much different shifting, the Camaro looked almost out of control and loose and my CLK looked planted, so planted it looked slow, yet we both crossed the beam at nearly the same time. My trap speed was a good 20 mph faster but two 9 second cars can be very very different. Technology truly is amazing, suspension technology, traction control, launch control, aero. 20 years ago a 13 second car was fast, these days we have stock production cars capable of running 10 second passes.

JB C63S

Hi guys,
Glad to see my Drag Times thread being referenced! And still waiting for more timeslips from others!!

My GTS totally stock ran 11.38 and repeated 11.4s all night. Uncorrected. Stock tires, airfilters, everything. Normal fuel.

Then I got it tuned by Weistec. Still ran 11.4s. Lots of traction issues. Track prep was nothing special. Speed was 129.6mph, indicating lots of power. Plenty to get into 10s. Able to run down a well- driven C7 Z06. Bad 60' times.

I've pondered getting a set of drag radials just to log a good 10.7 or 10.8 and have an official ten second car, but my ego and my thriftiness are still debating this plan.

Despite my username I never owned a C63S. Sorry for any confusion.

JB C63S

Im actually quite surprised at how consisten these cars are and how accurate the magazines are. Motor trend says it does 11.4 at 124. Stock mine did 11.35 at 125.

JB C63S

JB C63S

I talked to Weistec about how they ran 10.9 with a slower speed than mine and they said they had a private track with excellent prep. They did a rolling burnout to the 60' mark, then had a great driver stage it on the fresh burnout. He used launch mode. Thats all fair to my mind. They also had a hotter day than I did, likely explaining most of the mph difference.

Good fresh tires and the right pressure. Thats whatcha need for tens.

And a 1.70 60'

JB C63S

Weistec and I both ran 3.88 in the second 1/8th, indicating its all in the launch.

emericr

JBC63S: thanks for tuning in and giving us real world data.
Too bad you did an 11.3X and not an 11.4X cause jrcrat would have to transfer deeds to his homes and titles to his cars
Great driving by the way and I also have seen the GT-S do those times but there is little point trying to argue with jrcart as he knows best...
I can't wait to get mine tuned and I am no pro on the dragstrip so will probably be thrilled with low 11s

jrcart

A lower E/T will almost always result in a lower trap speed. You need to look at the 60ft time to figure out the trap speed, a higher 60ft means more wheel spin and will always result in a higher trap speed.