emericr

That was my thought process. I bought a GT with all the options I wanted (upgraded interior, adaptive suspension, cf interior, perf exhaust) and saved about 15K compared to a GT-S

Vic55

of course the tunes will be identical, they overwrite the oem code

piano

Side question...

Same as the Audi V8 turbo? Same V8, range from 450 to 620 HP, which is huge difference! (S7 to RS7) and BMW V8?

I know Porsche, my 911 turbo "flash" still has diff power than a "flash" turbo S, I think there are some internal (or whatever) difference too ..

Vic55

The Audis actually have different internals between the S7 and RS7 along with a more agressive tune and intake and exhaust tweaks. In these cars tuning an S7 can get you close to a stock RS7 but tuning an RS7 will clearly lift that model well above.

The turbo and turbo s are one of the few models of tier 1 and 1A cars that a tune will make them equal. You should check 6 speedonline- many non S cars are tuned and are equal to tuned S cars in their performance. Its because clear bump in hp and tq is tune only related not engine internals and/or exhaust. Im talking about 991's (.1 variants).

piano

Thx again Vic, mine is 996 turbo, and the flash was done 10 year ago. LoL

From your signature, you have 12 R8 V10 and GTS, how you compare them? I have been looking at ~ 5yr old V10 R8 vs AMG GT, they are about same price.. (if I see a V10 r8 with stick, probably jump on it..)

Thx

Vic55

The R8 V10 has just a few advantages IMHO:

Looks (subjective)
Sound of the V10 is my fave
AWD for incredible wet traction and launches

The GTS is the modern day bang for the buck car and its hard to compare because I got my GTS in 2015 and my R8 is a 2012 car; clearly technology has changed along with creature comforts and mechanical advancements. The R8 I have has the dreaded SMGIII style gearbox (one clutch) and while Ive done several TCU updates its nothing remotely close to a dual clutch tranny. I will admit that the car is fun to drive on the weekends and around town with the catless exhuast I added and an ecu tune. The model is very long in the tooth though and will not outperform the GTS except possibly from a dig with easy AWD launches. The reason its still around is V10 normal aspiration- you just dont find that anymore unless you get the brand new one or a Huracan (which I have).

JB C63S

Small wheels,(and brakes I think)
Worse base stereo
Plainer interior
Worse resale value

donjon1111

It is still not clear to me if the GT with dynamically adjustable supension is the same as the GTS

McGG

its not

edit for clarity:

You can get three version of the suspension:

multimatic: base GT
adjustable: GTS/ GT option
adjustable (DPP spec): GTS w/ DPP

rsalco

No, it isn't. Go to the AMG website and pull up the specs for both. There are some substantial mechanical and trim differences. That said, I had the GT S and didn't think the differences warranted the price differential. But then I didn't think the car generally offered good performance value, sold it after a brief ownership sojourn. Bang-for-the-buck, nothing approaches the current 'Vette, 'Stang, or even Camaro, properly optioned. A current Mustang GT350 R at $70K will run quicker track times than a GT S.

AMG 17GT

donjon1111

If you are basing your answer on valid technical information please share it.Please provide some detailed information to explain your answer.

donjon1111

Thanks. That is what I am thinking also. But can you please point me to the website you are referring to?

donjon1111

I am referrring only to the suspension. Can you please point me to the website you are talking about?

donjon1111

Can u point me to the website?

AMG 17GT

Just google AMG vehicles website

donjon1111

Thanks. I did. After looking at it I now beleive they are the same. THey now call it "AMG RIDE CONTROL sports suspension".

However I am not clear if my 2017 GT has the dynamic engine mounts.

jstewperry

GT vs. GTS is a logical question, especially if no one wants to get the "base model" of anything. That said, I chose the GT over the GTS, there is nothing "base" about it. I first started by building the GT with everything that I wanted. Then I built a comparable GTS, there was a $13,600 price difference. I had to ask myself for how I planned to use the car (a daily driver), were the differences in the GT and GTS worth the premium. I concluded that the premium was not worth it to me. Everyone has to go through their own thought process, but this was mine. I am very happy with my choice.

donjon1111

QUOTE=jstewperry;7451821]GT vs. GTS is a logical question, especially if no one wants to get the "base model" of anything. That said, I chose the GT over the GTS, there is nothing "base" about it. I first started by building the GT with everything that I wanted. Then I built a comparable GTS, there was a $13,600 price difference. I had to ask myself for how I planned to use the car (a daily driver), were the differences in the GT and GTS worth the premium. I concluded that the premium was not worth it to me. Everyone has to go through their own thought process, but this was mine. I am very happy with my choice.[/QUOTE]


I agree with you. I just bought a used 2017 GT. IWHen I bought it the sales/service people conviced me that there was no difference between the GT and GTS. I since have found out there is.
However my GT was optioned with the right options so I have been finding out that I am not missing much.
have the larger 5 spoke amg wheels, adaptive suspension,AMG Silver Chrome Trim, and airo package. some The only things I am missing are :
Race Mode
Electronic differencial

surfah

You're also missing the Dynamic Plus Package. I have this option, unsure whether it matters for a daily driver but some of the same features are present on my 991 GT3. At the very least, it provides a more sporty driving experience. It certainly doesn't make the suspension intolerable, I find it very comfortable in Comfort suspension mode.

AMG DYNAMIC PLUS Package • Dynamic engine and transmission mounts • Dynamically enhanced handling features (firmer damping, reprofiled steering, increased negative front-wheel camber) • AMG DINAMICA Performance steering wheel • Yellow instrument graphics

donjon1111

The AMG DYNAMIC PLUS Package is an option on both. It is not exclusive to the GTS.

Do you find it makes much difference on the track?

McGG

The GT uses multimatic suspension with the ride control as an option, and the DPP is not available on the GT, only the GTS.

This has been discussed ad nauseum.

AMG 17GT

McGG

That's literally what I just said..lol

AMG 17GT