360 Spyder

To put a more positive comment on this thread, I have to say the part throttle growl is better than any other car I have driven. How is that impacted by the downpipes?

AMG 17GT

Assuming you mean removal of DPs. One member here removed resonators after DPs. Very easy job supposedly, and resulted in significantly louder growl under load without drone.

Vic55

Ive driven the Weistec car a few times with DP's (they are not removed but replaced). It's a big difference from stock with the flaps open. Its the same sound we get but at a higher DB level (I would guess 25% more sound WOT) At WOT its most noticeable but the car remains almost at its normal stock self during cruising mph's.

And our GTS's do not have resonators, just primary and secondary cats.

360 Spyder

That sounds like the best of all worlds! Anyone else done that?

Vic55

there are no resonators on the GTS---- just pre and post cats.

AMG 17GT

Yeah. Post cats.

emericr

Hate to think Vic could be wrong but the secondary units are not technically catalytic converters but simply resonators with media inside.
There is no platinum in those units therefore there are no "catalyst" which is probably why there are no O2 sensors before and after them to monitor their efficiency because they have no effect on emmission

Vic55

I think technically you might be right... I just know that my tech at Benzworks and at Weistec called them cats (first and second). I guess someone could source the part # to see what the factory says. The guys on the M177 boards say cats as well so it was a presumptive statement.

Gfunk808

Are many people dissatisfied with their AMG GTS?

Not I.

emericr

In my opinion, this is great news. I have not had a CEL since they have been chopped of and I am achieving a meaner bark and louder sound just like the downpipes for just a few bucks .
And this can easily be reverted back to stock for resale purposes.
back to the OP thread, I luv my car

2016AMGGTS

Mine burned oil worse than a john deer two stroke riding mower! Is that a compromise? I don't care if the thing is loud as **** and shifts hard. Modern car can't burn a quart per 800 miles.

300blackout

Honestly dude, it's time to move on. We get it, you had a problem, you weren't happy. I'v been silent about this but seriously man you need to move on.

John Danskin

Love love love my GTS. Traded in a Carrera 4S. The GTS handles better, sounds better, feels better inside. It shifts better. I love it. It's true there is no back seat. I wasn't looking for a minivan.

descartesfool

Seriously, you must have some other interests than going on and on and on and on about your experience with your GT-S. Everyone on this forum has seen you relentless posting about it. Find something else to post about. There must be something that would make you happy. My GT-S makes me happy, but so do other things. Perhaps you could find some Zen in something else and move onto better things.

guynamedsean

also everytime i buy a 100k dollar car I know there is a chance that it will have serious engine problems, it will be under warranty, but i wont have time to **** with it. if this happens i know my only recourse is to trade it in! yes, ill lose 20k, but when I buy the replacement car they will probably hook me up and know 10k+ off the new car. the point is don't try and play big boy games and hobbies unless youre ready.

it sounds like you got your money back. be happy. move on.

Ryanksong

My first car was 2010 Porsche Cayman S - great mid engine machine and enjoyed a lot.

GTS is my second car and compared to 911S & 4S (991.2), and F-type R before eventually ending up GTS.

I think that GTS is still the best in $150K class in terms of wow factor, fun, posture, handling, exhaust sound and even boot size (holding two golf bags)!!!

Recently I test drived DB11 (well.. over $200K range car), but GTS was better in almost every aspect, except qualtiy of interior material and brand image.

Now I'm considering to move up to AMG GTR and I'm pretty sure GTR will be very competitive in $200K range.

John Danskin

Yikes. My first car was a Buick Electra 225. Seatbelts for 6. 5mpg in town. 390HP. $600. I took it up to 110 MPH once and could barely keep it on a straight road. My second car was a step van. Honda Civic, VW Golf, Chrysler Reliant (Still mad at Chrysler after 20 years), Toyota Pickup, Toyota Landcruiser, and then a steady stream of BMWs (including race cars) and gradually nicer cars with the 911 leading up to the GTS.

Dude, you have absolutely no perspective about cars. I try to spend at least half my driving time in a Jeep so I can appreciate the GTS. Otherwise I get used to how incredible it really is. If you eat at 5 star restaurants every day, appreciation dwindles to nothing. P-nut butter sandwiches 6 days a week, and a 5 star restaurant on Saturday is the good life.

Ryanksong

My first car was a Buick Electra 225. Seatbelts for 6. 5mpg in town. 390HP. $600. I took it up to 110 MPH once and could barely keep it on a straight road. My second car was a step van. Honda Civic, VW Golf, Chrysler Reliant (Still mad at Chrysler after 20 years), Toyota Pickup, Toyota Landcruiser, and then a steady stream of BMWs (including race cars) and gradually nicer cars with the 911 leading up to the GTS.

Thanks for your interesting history

Dude, you have absolutely no perspective about cars. I try to spend at least half my driving time in a Jeep so I can appreciate the GTS.

Unfortunately, I have no time to enjoy driving weekdays due to work (and commute using subway)
So, for me, GTS (and also was Cayman S) is a toy for spending nice weekend and holidays.

Otherwise I get used to how incredible it really is. If you eat at 5 star restaurants every day, appreciation dwindles to nothing. P-nut butter sandwiches 6 days a week, and a 5 star restaurant on Saturday is the good life.

Well, couldn't agree more. I prefer $10 pizza to $100 steak when watching a ball game. But definitely will go fo the other way around when I have a date.

John Danskin

Wow, that's even better. The GTS is -way- better than a subway, depending on traffic I suppose.

morjo02

I see many GT and GTS for sale on ebay and on cargurus... I wonder the reason for a large inventory of sellers..... I'm looking at the AMG GT R

Td33

Just part of the reason, but take a look at consumer reports annual scorecard.

1: Audi
2: Porsche

You have to go way down the list to find MB.

amgfan1

Wow an all time low ranking of Number#20.

LINK:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars-...vehicles-2017/

Drive safe,
amgfan1

AMG 17GT

For consumers who need help

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/toasters.htm

AMGGTC

Not sure what to make of this discussion - If this has any significance than we should all buy and drive Kia (no. 6) or Hyundai (no.12)..


I did a quick search on Autotrader for 2016. There are over 530 911 for sale and over 300 AMG GT for sale - Does this mean that people do not want to buy 911s? Of course not - all these raw numbers and statistics are meaningless.


I still don't have my GTC but have owned P and MB - both had minor issues. MB service was far better and in my experience MB's reliability was better even though CR has Porsche as No. 2 on their "list"

JSwan724

Agreed!!


If you look at the numbers carefully you will see that over time the numbers of 2016 GTS are declining.

The number of 2017's are primarily made up of GT cars with a lower number of GTS.

My sense is that MB is loading the market with their new entry level GT and the remaining number of 2017 GTS are normal new inventory.

Supply chain and customer demand should normalize over that next couple of months.


GTR-- Rumor has it that the initial US GTR launch will be in late April-May and Canada will be in August. No news on the Europe or Asia markets yet.