c250 performance chip

[miconic]

Don't waste your hard earned money on magical chips that make your mercedes faster, its a crock and I get it with wanting to upgrade or do cool things that make performance better but at the end of the day your wasting your money. Think about it for 3 seconds and ask yourself a very basic question? Do you not think that mercedes does not have that magical chip? I'm sorry not being negative but think about it and the whole chip thing is a joke. Your not gonna gain anything, just a headache and a yea I learned my lesson kinda deal. Just me thoughts and its all good.

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[DameMD]

Originally Posted by miconic

Don't waste your hard earned money on magical chips that make your mercedes faster, its a crock and I get it with wanting to upgrade or do cool things that make performance better but at the end of the day your wasting your money. Think about it for 3 seconds and ask yourself a very basic question? Do you not think that mercedes does not have that magical chip? I'm sorry not being negative but think about it and the whole chip thing is a joke. Your not gonna gain anything, just a headache and a yea I learned my lesson kinda deal. Just me thoughts and its all good.

What are you talking about? Some of us been running a tune for more than a month now. No issues over here I have the same gains as brabus for a lot less $$$$. smh

[Igor1080]

Originally Posted by miconic

Don't waste your hard earned money on magical chips that make your mercedes faster, its a crock and I get it with wanting to upgrade or do cool things that make performance better but at the end of the day your wasting your money. Think about it for 3 seconds and ask yourself a very basic question? Do you not think that mercedes does not have that magical chip? I'm sorry not being negative but think about it and the whole chip thing is a joke. Your not gonna gain anything, just a headache and a yea I learned my lesson kinda deal. Just me thoughts and its all good.

Guy, WTF are you on about? It's a proven mechanical and software modification to a car. Its not a placebo medication. They do the work in house, dyno the car, change the A/F ratio as well as several other operating parameters and voila you have a faster/more powerful car. There's nothing magical about it.

Mercedes has nothing to do with aftermarket modifications to your car. They have an agenda from a business standpoint to have two cars which appeal to two different audiences, the C250 and C350. They make a lot of money by engineering two separate drivetrains for different kinds of customers. They have no intentions of offering any kind of power modifications for a 1.8 Liter 4 cylinder car with 201 hp. What we are looking for is a small boost in performance at a low cost. I'm not gonna simplify the economic standpoint of that anymore than I already have.

With that said. I'd like to point out that you're a moron.

[miconic]

Originally Posted by Igor1080

Guy, WTF are you on about? It's a proven mechanical and software modification to a car. Its not a placebo medication. They do the work in house, dyno the car, change the A/F ratio as well as several other operating parameters and voila you have a faster/more powerful car. There's nothing magical about it.

Mercedes has nothing to do with aftermarket modifications to your car. They have an agenda from a business standpoint to have two cars which appeal to two different audiences, the C250 and C350. They make a lot of money by engineering two separate drivetrains for different kinds of customers. They have no intentions of offering any kind of power modifications for a 1.8 Liter 4 cylinder car with 201 hp. What we are looking for is a small boost in performance at a low cost. I'm not gonna simplify the economic standpoint of that anymore than I already have.

With that said. I'd like to point out that you're a moron.

It is what it is, don't bust my ***** for the obvious aftermarket add on deal, do what you want, its all good. Just keep in mind that whatever you try to do it is what it is and not a performance car with mega horsepower, so don't waste your money on mods or chips Just keep driving and represent the brand and keep it clean and proud. I hear ya on your point and respect that.

[Igor1080]

Originally Posted by miconic

It is what it is, don't bust my ***** for the obvious aftermarket add on deal, do what you want, its all good. Just keep in mind that whatever you try to do it is what it is and not a performance car with mega horsepower, so don't waste your money on mods or chips Just keep driving and represent the brand and keep it clean and proud. I hear ya on your point and respect that.

What we do with our cars is our prerogative, if you have an asinine, baseless opinion which doesn't reflect car culture or automotive knowledge what-so-ever then get off of this forum. Your comments don't make sense.

Not only do you not understand basic concepts of economics, you don't understand car culture in general. You're either very young or very ignorant or both. Stop commenting on this thread.

[Kevin82]

Originally Posted by miconic

It is what it is, don't bust my ***** for the obvious aftermarket add on deal, do what you want, its all good. Just keep in mind that whatever you try to do it is what it is and not a performance car with mega horsepower, so don't waste your money on mods or chips Just keep driving and represent the brand and keep it clean and proud. I hear ya on your point and respect that.

Miconic, we're busting your ***** because YOU ORIGINALLY said that it doesn't do what it says (increase HP). It's obvious that you did not know what the product was. It's not a falsly advertised device trying to steal our money. There is a huge demand for it and the company that created it visits our forums from time to time.

As said by another poster, it does in FACT increase HP based on Dyno testing--i think by ~20HP and ~40lb/ft torque (something like that). Those are good numbers for something that only cost ~$280.

No our car's aren't for performance, but this is an awsome improvement for our stock c250 that currently produces 201HP, 229 torque.

If you want to see details about this product, go to this thread:
C250 Coupe Tune available from Burger-Motorsports?

[MBfinatic]

Bigger turbo plans for anyone?! BOV should be a requirement!

[slktyperice]

Originally Posted by MBfinatic

Bigger turbo plans for anyone?! BOV should be a requirement!

C250 Type RiCe? Hahahah. I'm curious as to how much boost the stock engine and internals can handle, and how much needs to be modded. I don't mind swapping out a slightly bigger turbo (if possible using adapters to use existing piping) and re-swap in time for the 10k services. Sounds like a lot of work to me, in addition to the necessary tuning. At this price point, the C350 guys might just be right...why spend so much when you can just get the C350?

[Kevin82]

Originally Posted by slktyperice

C250 Type RiCe? Hahahah. I'm curious as to how much boost the stock engine and internals can handle, and how much needs to be modded. I don't mind swapping out a slightly bigger turbo (if possible using adapters to use existing piping) and re-swap in time for the 10k services. Sounds like a lot of work to me, in addition to the necessary tuning. At this price point, the C350 guys might just be right...why spend so much when you can just get the C350?

because we already have the c250 and are stuck with it haha

[slktyperice]

Originally Posted by Kevin82

because we already have the c250 and are stuck with it haha

True. ECU+Intake for ~$500 for ~25hp/40tq isn't too bad.

10k miles and 4 months into my 45k mile/3 year lease and I'm itching for more mods!

[MBfinatic]

There is nothing rice about adding performance parts?..... Do you know what the term (ricer) is used for... Some people want the luxurious of the mercedes but also want performance.. There is nothing wrong with that..

Does anyone have pictures of the engine bay without the cover?

[slktyperice]

Originally Posted by MBfinatic

There is nothing rice about adding performance parts?..... Do you know what the term (ricer) is used for... Some people want the luxurious of the mercedes but also want performance.. There is nothing wrong with that..

Does anyone have pictures of the engine bay without the cover?

My reference to rice was for the BOV (questionable functionality at our level of boost and performance). Of course there's nothing wrong with adding performance parts!

[MBfinatic]

Well you need to figure out how much boost you got! Im curious to know!

[MBnewby]

Former c350 owner here now in a 2011 gti with apr stage 1 and intake. 255hp and 303 tq. Car is fantastic. I still love mb but damn they could've done a lot better than the turbo 4 they released. Maybe an upgraded c250 soon to compete with BMW and Audi? Why is mb always late to the party?

[Kevin82]

Originally Posted by MBnewby

Former c350 owner here now in a 2011 gti with apr stage 1 and intake. 255hp and 303 tq. Car is fantastic. I still love mb but damn they could've done a lot better than the turbo 4 they released. Maybe an upgraded c250 soon to compete with BMW and Audi? Why is mb always late to the party?

Yes, shortly after I got my c250 they announced the new 3-series I was like this >

Test drove the gti and liked it a lot. Didn't notice any turbo lag vs c250 I noticed right away. I researched the hell out of it and like that you can get to stage 4 if you have the cash. Almost got a GLI/GTI, but dealer didn't have the autobahn edition and when I asked to test drive some other cars they told me to schedule a test drive. I said screw it and got a c250 instead.

Autobahn GLI lease would have been around the price range of my c250 lease ~$450, so it didn't really make too much sense to me because I could get into a great looking car with an okay engine (c250) vs an okay looking car with a great engine (gti/gli). What really got my into a c250 was the interior--I love it, plus it has that young executive look to it.

I will still look into a gti when my lease is over. Hopefully VW doesn't dumb down the GTI like they did the Jetta.

[scottisha]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous5

Way too expensive for Chips.

The Audi A4/A5 guys pay $599 for an APR ECU Tune.

One of the reasons I love VW so much.
I have a 09 Genesis Sedan w/V8 and
used to have an 2005 C230 Kompressor Sedan for commuting.
After 203k flawless miles on the Mercedes I decided it was time for a change and ended up going back to a VW for commuting. The genesis, although decent on gas for being a V8, was costing me $635.00 a month in fuel. The VW costs $400.00..

Anyways, I first got a 2011 Golf TDI and did the Revo chip. Huge gains in torque! Needed a 4 door, so I traded the Golf in on a 2012 Jetta GLI.
stock, the GLI is right around 200hp & 207 ft lbs trq.
I did an intake, exhaust and APR chip. That's it, for performance mods. Cost under $2k installed and now have 274hp & 314 ft lbs.

The car is incredibly quick in 3rd and 4th gear......Here's a video of a 3rd gear pull, I took with my cell phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1CuYyYUr6Y&list=UU8haDeupLvmxV0p3Cj4RxzA&index=5&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1CuYyYUr6Y&list=UU8haDeupLvmxV0p3Cj4RxzA&index=5&feature=plcp

Was trolling through the forum, because my Brother-in-law just picked up his C250 on Friday. Not that he would chip it under warranty, but he drives a lot and may do so when the warranty is up...We'll see.

I'm pretty stoked that MB has gone with a turbo 4 in the new C class. Hated that they got away for a forced induction 4 cyl after my C230.

Scott

[Igor1080]

Originally Posted by DameMD

You guys in this thread have not been paying attention. If you power hungry guys read the w204 threads, you will know that there is a tuner working on stuff, getting us the same gains as the new 328i 240hp-260tq+ at stage 1. Please search the forums. Also, it will help if we can support them as I would like to see more options regarding power for this car. That is all....

+100000

[whiteongrey]

Anyone try swapping a diff from w204 c250? Has lower gearing....MB put higher gearing in the turbo to keep perf lower than other models.

Probably get a used one from recycler at decent price

[Igor1080]

Originally Posted by whiteongrey

Anyone try swapping a diff from w204 c250? Has lower gearing....MB put higher gearing in the turbo to keep perf lower than other models.

Probably get a used one from recycler at decent price

Correct me if I'm wrong but we have the same engine and turbo as the w204 sedan. I think the JB+ was even based on the w204.

[Vegasmerc]

Hello everyone. I'm new to the site. I plan to lease a new C250 in April and I'm wondering if anyone here actually has run the chip referenced above. The price is right. I wonder if you can unplug it when you go in for service and if the service people will know you ran the car with it? Thoughts? Be gentle. This is my first attempt at owning a Merc or tuning a turbo in any way.

[jctevere]

Originally Posted by Vegasmerc

Hello everyone. I'm new to the site. I plan to lease a new C250 in April and I'm wondering if anyone here actually has run the chip referenced above. The price is right. I wonder if you can unplug it when you go in for service and if the service people will know you ran the car with it? Thoughts? Be gentle. This is my first attempt at owning a Merc or tuning a turbo in any way.

Yes, Yes, Yes, and yes. A bit further down you will see a thread that covers a tune for "berger Motorsports". That has tons of information on it and feedback from people that have run it.

[Vegasmerc]

Thanks JC. Will do.

[Marios S]

Is anyone aware of these chips: http://www.racechip.de/en/chiptuning...50kw/index.php

Reviews from possible owners will be much appreciated!!
Is this company trustworthy or it is just my idea that 28% increase of the power is too much for just a chip (having in mind that the B25S kit from Brabus for example, which also includes bigger intercooler does not offer such performance)