SC to clc conversion?
03-11-2009, 03:03 PM
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Funny - I thought that would be an easy photo to play with. I think it looks good. The only thing that might mess you in the flesh is the bumper & hatch come to a slight point in the centre of the car.
03-11-2009, 04:31 PM
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I've got to wander down to my dealer this weekend, and if it's not pissing it down rain I'll take some pictures.
The rear bumper cover should not require a new hatch - it's deceptive, but if we had a "top, looking down" view you'd understand what I mean.
Since I pulled a crapload of part numbers for Glyn, I took a quick look, and it looks to me like the bumper frame (the metal bit you don't want to have to replace) is the same between the Coupe and the CLC. There are some new brackets, new impact foam pieces, and obviously the new bumper and lower diffuser. Diffuser is a separate piece from the bumper, and I don't see any easy way at all to "adapt" it to the Coupe without replacing the bumper cover as well.
I'm no artist, but look at the attached - the original Coupe has a "notch" in the tails to blend in with the hatch - the red line shows the "new" line of the CLC tails (and the same line marries with the "new" hatch)
Last edited by UK-C200; 03-11-2009 at 04:42 PM.
03-11-2009, 05:00 PM
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UK - C200 - you are a star & your help must be recognised. Your drawing explains things well. I've had a shed load of work to do today & tomorrow is the same. I've had a quick look at what you kindly sent me for the forum & yes it seems to be brackets & foams.
You are quite right that the light & lip curl on the CLC are different to the Coupe. I don't see how you could do lights without the hatch. The shallow curl on the new plastic above the new light will not match the deeper curl on the hatch of a Coupe.
You are quite right that the light & lip curl on the CLC are different to the Coupe. I don't see how you could do lights without the hatch. The shallow curl on the new plastic above the new light will not match the deeper curl on the hatch of a Coupe.
Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 03-11-2009 at 05:03 PM.
03-12-2009, 02:22 AM
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It's the same car, same chassis. I don't understand what you're saying...
IMHO, if the lights on the sides of the hatch have all the necessary lights, you could adapt them. There's plastic pieces that go on top where the
brake lights used to be.
Paint the clear part, and, well it would be unique in the US for sure.
It's the same car, same chassis. I don't understand what you're saying...
IMHO, if the lights on the sides of the hatch have all the necessary lights, you could adapt them. There's plastic pieces that go on top where the
brake lights used to be.
Paint the clear part, and, well it would be unique in the US for sure.
03-12-2009, 06:52 AM
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It's the same car, same chassis. I don't understand what you're saying...
IMHO, if the lights on the sides of the hatch have all the necessary lights, you could adapt them. There's plastic pieces that go on top where the
brake lights used to be.
Paint the clear part, and, well it would be unique in the US for sure.
It's the same car, same chassis. I don't understand what you're saying...
IMHO, if the lights on the sides of the hatch have all the necessary lights, you could adapt them. There's plastic pieces that go on top where the
brake lights used to be.
Paint the clear part, and, well it would be unique in the US for sure.
03-14-2009, 06:56 PM
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Part numbers for CLC front & rear
Please give UK-C200 a big word of thanks for all the help he has given me to enable the posting of CLC part numbers & diagrams below. Please don't abuse this data. It is provided to allow you to order parts to upgrade your vehicles only - I take no responsibility whatsoever for any abuse of it's content or the outcome of any modifications you may make to your vehicles.
You are going to have to check these part numbers with your existing part numbers to see what has changed versus what you have. I have no way of doing this. Some of this is a little confusing because illustrations tend to be of the old parts even though this is CLC - see header - but this is as published by Benz - I am sure that you are going to find a few things missing. If so we will try our best to source the part numbers for you. Remember most of your cars are LHD so you will have to source things like headlights from Europe if you choose to go that far.
It appears that anything marked "From Chassis: E 036504 From Date:
06/12/2007" is unique to the CLC frame. So for example - the front bumper covers listed, A2038854825 and A2038854925 are valid for the CLC, other are the C coupe.
Much of it is pretty obvious eg - bumper covers, foams, brackets, lights etc.
Enjoy - I look forward to seeing some hybrids on the forum shortly.
You are going to have to check these part numbers with your existing part numbers to see what has changed versus what you have. I have no way of doing this. Some of this is a little confusing because illustrations tend to be of the old parts even though this is CLC - see header - but this is as published by Benz - I am sure that you are going to find a few things missing. If so we will try our best to source the part numbers for you. Remember most of your cars are LHD so you will have to source things like headlights from Europe if you choose to go that far.
It appears that anything marked "From Chassis: E 036504 From Date:
06/12/2007" is unique to the CLC frame. So for example - the front bumper covers listed, A2038854825 and A2038854925 are valid for the CLC, other are the C coupe.
Much of it is pretty obvious eg - bumper covers, foams, brackets, lights etc.
Enjoy - I look forward to seeing some hybrids on the forum shortly.
03-15-2009, 08:21 PM
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03-20-2009, 04:44 PM
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I'm hoping there are no US hybrids of this car, or at least none near me. I have enough dings on my car as is.
Good work on getting the rundown of the parts, though.
03-20-2009, 09:50 PM
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They finally got the rear to look right.
It looks like in the diagram that you provided Glyn that you could graft the new center part of the hatch onto the old one.
I really like that look and would like to get a set of those tail lights to play around with!
It looks like in the diagram that you provided Glyn that you could graft the new center part of the hatch onto the old one.
I really like that look and would like to get a set of those tail lights to play around with!
03-28-2009, 02:10 PM
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Right - went to the dealer & sorted what the lights do as requested.
Todd - they would not let me pull out the ulholstery to photograph the connectors.
Todd - they would not let me pull out the ulholstery to photograph the connectors.
03-30-2009, 02:03 PM
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Most Impressive!
But wait...I don't see the tail lights at all...
not even on the tail gate, and the designation is
203.731...
Mine is 203.747
they tend to go in sequence.
I would imagine the CLC to be something like 203.561 or whatever..
I tend to think we're looking at a regular 203 coupey here.
But wait...I don't see the tail lights at all...
not even on the tail gate, and the designation is
203.731...
Mine is 203.747
they tend to go in sequence.
I would imagine the CLC to be something like 203.561 or whatever..
I tend to think we're looking at a regular 203 coupey here.
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03-30-2009, 02:28 PM
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Todd - Are you talking about the EPC pdfs above? I'll ask UK-C200 to have a look. This is the latest published & is supposed to be Old Coupe with the CLC updates as applicable
03-30-2009, 04:18 PM
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UK-C200 is stuck in France at the moment, and no access to the fun stuff that would answer the question. Part sequences can be odd at times, and the diagrams are 100% "old" C Coupe, not CLC - with notes out the wazoo.
Hopefully heading back home late tomorrow, and I'll take another look and see - but I dumped the full parts list for the CLC 180, and that's what came out - see header of printouts..
Hopefully heading back home late tomorrow, and I'll take another look and see - but I dumped the full parts list for the CLC 180, and that's what came out - see header of printouts..
03-30-2009, 04:46 PM
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As it turns out, though I only have a US EPC subscription, searching on
203.731 VIN brought up the appropriate stuff, though it appear that MB has been lazy and left
most of the old C Coupe stuff, in the form of pictures etc in there.
Here's a cool pic of the tail lights.... #400 is the blanking piece. 300 the part that attaches to the hatch,
200 the actual tail light assembly.
I wonder if it would be necessary to purchase the piece shown below,
#20 to fill in some of the space left from the old tails...
It certainly would make the most sense if someone tries to do a tail light swap, that someone who can physically have the parts in hand to see if they would fit, vs. someone in a country where the parts aren't sold trying to be 1st.
I really hate the tail lights on the coupe, with their space age styling, vs. the cleaner new ones on the
CLC. It would be cool if the blanking plates could be installed, the new tails, and the pieces bolted to the hatch....
Here's a parts list Code 952 is the "sport version" tail lights.
They're different?
203.731 VIN brought up the appropriate stuff, though it appear that MB has been lazy and left
most of the old C Coupe stuff, in the form of pictures etc in there.
Here's a cool pic of the tail lights.... #400 is the blanking piece. 300 the part that attaches to the hatch,
200 the actual tail light assembly.
I wonder if it would be necessary to purchase the piece shown below,
#20 to fill in some of the space left from the old tails...
It certainly would make the most sense if someone tries to do a tail light swap, that someone who can physically have the parts in hand to see if they would fit, vs. someone in a country where the parts aren't sold trying to be 1st.
I really hate the tail lights on the coupe, with their space age styling, vs. the cleaner new ones on the
CLC. It would be cool if the blanking plates could be installed, the new tails, and the pieces bolted to the hatch....
Here's a parts list Code 952 is the "sport version" tail lights.
They're different?
Last edited by C230 Sport Coup; 03-30-2009 at 05:11 PM.
03-30-2009, 05:16 PM
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Hey - note theres a fog light in the one hatch light - item 320 - I did not notice that on the one we were examining & I thought we had everything on!!!!
03-30-2009, 05:31 PM
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I don't see the notch you guys are talking about.
I guess you mean the curl on the clear part that forms the spoiler look on the hatch shown in red here....
I wonder if a bit of fiberglass or filler of some sort could be used to make it match up?
Easiest and cheapest way to find out would to be just purchase the blanking panel(s) for one side and play with it....2038210136 9999 AND 2038210236 9999
Can someone get a price on this?
Doesn't the rest of the world just order parts online?
Any links? Here's one more pic
I guess you mean the curl on the clear part that forms the spoiler look on the hatch shown in red here....
I wonder if a bit of fiberglass or filler of some sort could be used to make it match up?
Easiest and cheapest way to find out would to be just purchase the blanking panel(s) for one side and play with it....2038210136 9999 AND 2038210236 9999
Can someone get a price on this?
Doesn't the rest of the world just order parts online?
Any links? Here's one more pic
Last edited by C230 Sport Coup; 03-30-2009 at 05:51 PM.
03-30-2009, 06:55 PM
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Yes - We are talking about the depth of the curl below the lip. Is there any way that the matching filler piece on the hatch could replace your hatch clear piece???
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