W203 Facelift

z3r0 · 02-10-2003, 11:41 PM

I've heard of a facelift planned for the C-class towards the end of 2003 while others have said 04 or 05. Anyone have any info about the date or details?

Thanks.

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Matt230K · 02-10-2003, 11:48 PM

It will probably happen soon, but I'm sure it will be pretty minor, just something to freshen it up a bit and try to increase sales.

Lynn · 02-10-2003, 11:53 PM

I've read that the new (CL204?) coupe is due in 2005 and the new sedan (W204?) is due in 2006.

Matt230K · 02-10-2003, 11:57 PM

A new coupe two years before the sedan? They must really want to change this design. 2006 sounds about right for a new C. I haven't heard anything official, but I just figure that somewhere around 2004, they will probably make some small styling changes on the C, kinda like they did with the S this year.

Lynn · 02-11-2003, 12:07 AM

Sorry, my lousy typing strikes again. That should be 2005 for the coupe. I'll go fix it.

Buellwinkle · 02-11-2003, 12:46 AM

Just in time for the new Mustang. Hmmm, I'll have to think about that. Free car washes vs. a more reliable car!

Lynn · 02-11-2003, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Just in time for the new Mustang. Hmmm, I'll have to think about that. Free car washes vs. a more reliable car!

Mmmmmmmmmmm! Cookies.

mbtech208 · 02-11-2003, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Just in time for the new Mustang. Hmmm, I'll have to think about that. Free car washes vs. a more reliable car!

My girlfriend would laugh if she read that! According to her, "reliable" and "Mustang" don't belong in the same sentence. Her 2002 'Stang is one more breakdown away from being a lemon buyback. It's been in the shop EIGHT times for window regulator malfunctions in both doors, clunking noises from the A/C flaps, rattles behind the instrument cluster, failing to start several times, peeling weatherstripping, etc. The best was when she found out the cruise control didn't work. She took it into the dealer, where they found that the only part of the cruise that was installed in the car were the buttons on the steering wheel, the factory simply "forgot" to put all the other cruise control components in the car! They reimbursed her the 800 bucks or whatever for the cruise option, but it's still a big POS.

Mercedes · 02-11-2003, 10:09 AM

Mustang haha that's funny. my freind hates the day he got it, all the problems Squeaks he gets. The paint peeling. The crappy interior

I can go on and on

tommy · 02-11-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lynn
Mmmmmmmmmmm! Cookies.

Good one! I was thinking along the same lines.

nyca · 02-11-2003, 09:08 PM

it should be for 2004. not sure what it will contain. the in dash CD player from the E class, I've read that. the 350 engine, who knows right now

C230K · 02-11-2003, 09:33 PM

I had the last good Mustang, 1971 Mach 1, BOSS 351 Cleveland with a 4 speed wide ratio. Boy they were the good old days.

Rick · 02-11-2003, 09:48 PM

the last good Mustang.....

z3r0 · 02-11-2003, 11:44 PM

According to MBWpy's updated roadmap, the facelift will happen at the end of 2003.

http://www.mbspy.com/roadmap.htm

CitronC230K_03 · 02-12-2003, 01:39 PM

the W203's were introduced in 2001, doesnt 2004 seem kinda early for a replacement with W204. i would agree with a facelift but an enitely new model all together, just doesnt fit MB's past, or most German autos for that matter.

patronus · 02-12-2003, 03:25 PM

The W203's were actually introduced in 2000 as 2001 models. It is easy to confuse introduction year and model year. Therefore, if it is thought to be 2004, my guess would be that it would be a 2005 model. Still, a very short life for the W203 by MB standards. I wonder if this story has gone through a couple of mouths and it is actually a 2005 intro of a 2006 model? That would be only a 5-year life for W203. I have a hard time believing that.

Matt230K · 02-12-2003, 03:29 PM

MBspy shows a new model W204 for 2007. That sounds about right because they are making new models more often than they used to. A six year run seems about right. So I would say a 2006-2007 W204. And they say the facelift is late this year, so that will be a 2004.

AudiDude · 02-24-2003, 07:02 PM

Any updates on proposed changes for MY 2004 W203?

Think it will affect the new sport sedans as well? Seems odd since they were just launched, but perhaps shared componentry will factor in??

As I'm probably going to have to order my '03 C230K Sedan, it's getting close enough to consider waiting, hmmm... decisions decisions.

Where's my crystal ball?

nyca · 02-24-2003, 07:29 PM

I can't see the 230K getting too many changes. For sure, there won't be an engine change. It wil likely pick up the "trim" changes that are part of the facelift. The biggest change I think it could see, the in dash 6 CD player from the E class instead of the glove box one. MB is way behind Lexus, Audi on this.

trench · 02-24-2003, 07:48 PM

The biggest changes to the exterior will probably be slightly restyled bumpers - with a few new paint colors.

If the in-dash CD changer has different external dimensions, I bet it won't happen. They might go to the Audio 10 as standard equipment for the US; however, seeing as how the current changer is an easy extra few bucks for MBUSA, it won't surprise me if they don't have this.

Cheers, BT

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Lynn MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,744	I've read that the new (CL204?) coupe is due in 2005 and the new sedan (W204?) is due in 2006. Last edited by Lynn; 02-11-2003 at 12:08 AM.

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Matt230K MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,145 Drives: 2010 C300 4matic	A new coupe two years before the sedan? They must really want to change this design. 2006 sounds about right for a new C. I haven't heard anything official, but I just figure that somewhere around 2004, they will probably make some small styling changes on the C, kinda like they did with the S this year. __________________ 2010 C300 4matic Steel Grey/Black 15% tint X-pipe

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Lynn MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,744	Sorry, my lousy typing strikes again. That should be 2005 for the coupe. I'll go fix it.

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nyca MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,171	it should be for 2004. not sure what it will contain. the in dash CD player from the E class, I've read that. the 350 engine, who knows right now

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z3r0 Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 202	According to MBWpy's updated roadmap, the facelift will happen at the end of 2003. http://www.mbspy.com/roadmap.htm

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CitronC230K_03 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 7,737 Drives: 2003 Citron Green C230KMT	the W203's were introduced in 2001, doesnt 2004 seem kinda early for a replacement with W204. i would agree with a facelift but an enitely new model all together, just doesnt fit MB's past, or most German autos for that matter. __________________ \|\|\|\|\|\| OEM Mods: Convex Mirrors, Illuminated DoorSills, SL E-Brake Pad, W211 Indicators, COMAND, AMG Sways, AeroWipers, Climatronic, Electronic Folding Mirrors, AMG Brakes, PTS (Full), 2004 armrest, UHI, Linguatronic, OEM FireExtinguisher, full 2005 exterior, IMS, MB Sirius, Argos Bluetooth Mods: 20mm Spacers, SilverMesh, 6000k Philips Ultinon, PIAA Ion Yellow Fogs Scheduled Mods: CLK Heated/Vented Ortho. Seats, AMG spoiler

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patronus Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 247 Drives: 2001 C240 / 6-speed	The W203's were actually introduced in 2000 as 2001 models. It is easy to confuse introduction year and model year. Therefore, if it is thought to be 2004, my guess would be that it would be a 2005 model. Still, a very short life for the W203 by MB standards. I wonder if this story has gone through a couple of mouths and it is actually a 2005 intro of a 2006 model? That would be only a 5-year life for W203. I have a hard time believing that.

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Matt230K MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,145 Drives: 2010 C300 4matic	MBspy shows a new model W204 for 2007. That sounds about right because they are making new models more often than they used to. A six year run seems about right. So I would say a 2006-2007 W204. And they say the facelift is late this year, so that will be a 2004. __________________ 2010 C300 4matic Steel Grey/Black 15% tint X-pipe

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AudiDude Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 38	Any updates on proposed changes for MY 2004 W203? Think it will affect the new sport sedans as well? Seems odd since they were just launched, but perhaps shared componentry will factor in?? As I'm probably going to have to order my '03 C230K Sedan, it's getting close enough to consider waiting, hmmm... decisions decisions. Where's my crystal ball?

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nyca MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,171	I can't see the 230K getting too many changes. For sure, there won't be an engine change. It wil likely pick up the "trim" changes that are part of the facelift. The biggest change I think it could see, the in dash 6 CD player from the E class instead of the glove box one. MB is way behind Lexus, Audi on this.

02-24-2003, 07:48 PM

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02-24-2003, 07:48 PM	#20
trench MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 2,465 Drives: 2002 C230 K	The biggest changes to the exterior will probably be slightly restyled bumpers - with a few new paint colors. If the in-dash CD changer has different external dimensions, I bet it won't happen. They might go to the Audio 10 as standard equipment for the US; however, seeing as how the current changer is an easy extra few bucks for MBUSA, it won't surprise me if they don't have this. Cheers, BT