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Old 08-06-2010, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cg_06c230
... anyway, here’s hoping nothing else goes bad since the warranty is officially up shortly.
Although the warranty on your car is expiring, the warranty period on your [new] transmission is just starting.
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I can always send the tool back .... I didn't open it yet. Maybe he sent me 2 722.6 tools.

I spoke to a real expert and he said the forum was right.
Of course the forum is right I'm real suspicious of "real experts"

In fairness there is misinformation on this forum - hard as we try to keep it clean - You do need to sort some of the wheat from the chaff!

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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Those are the bit's I would have expected. You should be good to go for a long while yet.

The tranny is auto learning so it will have to re learn your driving preferences. If it has the new flash you will get used to some subtle new changes in behaviour that are permanent. Johnand might wish to expand on this. He is accustomed to a 7G in everyday driving & can explain the new changedown program when running up to a stop etc better than I can. He has been through the various generations of improved software for the 7G.

Good luck
+1 They replaced your valve body and flashed the TCU and ECU. They also erased transmission adaptations, so the transmission will be a little firm shifting for 100 miles or so. Just drive like you normally do. After a few hundred miles report back on how your transmission is performing.
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Of course the forum is right I'm real suspicious of "real experts"

In fairness there is misinformation on this forum - hard as we try to keep it clean - You do need to sort some of the wheat from the chaff!
Old 08-06-2010, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
The tranny is auto learning so it will have to re learn your driving preferences. If it has the new flash you will get used to some subtle new changes in behaviour that are permanent. Johnand might wish to expand on this.
It did get the new flash.

@Johnand - I am interested to know more.
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I'm going to leave this to John but I think an example is that when slowing the car comes to rest in 2nd gear & only changes to first once stationary to prevent a downchange jolt. This seems so on latest SA cars with 7G
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2006 c230 stock rims.

Hi does anyone know how wide I can go with tires on a 2006 c230 sport oem rims? the factory specs are 225/45/ r17 front and 245/40 r17 rear..

I was thinking 255/40 r17 rears and 235/45 r17 front? anyone please give me some direction..?
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235/45/17 is the largest you can go on the front or you hit the strut. 255 or 265 should work on the rear.
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I'm experiencing the same problem at ~81,000 miles. Turbine speed sensor. Started as a soft code limp-mode that could be reset, and then the car got stuck in 3rd gear until the codes were cleared by an indy shop. They called MB to get the sensor and were told that the sensor and valve body are sold together only, and that they do not sell the valve body to the public. The car is at that dealer (the one that gave the info to the indy shop about the sensor not being sold separately) and I'm expecting a call any minute about the cost of the repair. When I dropped it off, the SA said, a bit surprised, that the sensor might be able to be replaced separately, after talking to the parts dept. (which contradicts what they told the indy shop) I'm sure that 31k miles over the warranty period will get me quite a different result on requesting the honoring of a "good faith warranty" than 5k over like the OP. I was told to expect $1,200 for the sensor, and $1,700-1,800 for the valve body replacement.

I had the trans service done by the dealer at 39k miles as instructed by the owners manual, but I did not see any recurring transmission service. I also thought I remembered it being discussed on this forum that it was a one-time, non-recurring service. I would only be 3,000 miles over the interval anyway.

I have been serching around, and it seems that many people have experienced the same problem between here and benzworld. I think it is pretty apalling to have a transmission need nearly $2,000 worth of work at only 80k miles for a SENSOR FAULT. My 1993 chevy truck that hauled the MB's butt ~40-50 miles on Wednesday has 130k on the clock and towed a GCW of 12,000 lb all day... and guess what, that trans never skipped a beat and the only work it's ever had is flushes and filter changes.

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Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
I'm experiencing the same problem at ~81,000 miles. Turbine speed sensor. Started as a soft code limp-mode that could be reset, and then the car got stuck in 3rd gear until the codes were cleared by an indy shop. They called MB to get the sensor and were told that the sensor and valve body are sold together only, and that they do not sell the valve body to the public. The car is at that dealer (the one that gave the info to the indy shop about the sensor not being sold separately) and I'm expecting a call any minute about the cost of the repair. When I dropped it off, the SA said, a bit surprised, that the sensor might be able to be replaced separately, after talking to the parts dept. (which contradicts what they told the indy shop) I'm sure that 31k miles over the warranty period will get me quite a different result on requesting the honoring of a "good faith warranty" than 5k over like the OP. I was told to expect $1,200 for the sensor, and $1,700-1,800 for the valve body replacement.

I had the trans service done by the dealer at 39k miles as instructed by the owners manual, but I did not see any recurring transmission service. I also thought I remembered it being discussed on this forum that it was a one-time, non-recurring service. I would only be 2,000 miles over the interval anyway.

I have been serching around, and it seems that many people have experienced the same problem between here and benzworld. I think it is pretty apalling to have a transmission need nearly $2,000 worth of work at only 80k miles for a SENSOR FAULT. My 1993 chevy truck that hauled the MB's butt ~40-50 miles on Wednesday has 130k on the clock and towed a GCW of 12,000 lb all day... and guess what, that trans never skipped a beat and the only work it's ever had is flushes and filter changes.
MBUSA is really hurting their customers with the transmission maintenance programs. In all likelihood, the dealer that changed your fluid at 39k did not do it correctly. If you look on the repair order you'll probably see they never touched the torque converter.

I agree with you, appalling. You are the newest member.. seems like we have 1-2 a week of the 07s with the 7G transmission joining this club.
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I'll see if I can find the work order, or I would imagine they have it electronically on file. What are they supposed to do with the convertor?
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Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
I'm experiencing the same problem at ~81,000 miles. Turbine speed sensor. Started as a soft code limp-mode that could be reset, and then the car got stuck in 3rd gear until the codes were cleared by an indy shop. They called MB to get the sensor and were told that the sensor and valve body are sold together only, and that they do not sell the valve body to the public. The car is at that dealer (the one that gave the info to the indy shop about the sensor not being sold separately) and I'm expecting a call any minute about the cost of the repair. When I dropped it off, the SA said, a bit surprised, that the sensor might be able to be replaced separately, after talking to the parts dept. (which contradicts what they told the indy shop) I'm sure that 31k miles over the warranty period will get me quite a different result on requesting the honoring of a "good faith warranty" than 5k over like the OP. I was told to expect $1,200 for the sensor, and $1,700-1,800 for the valve body replacement.

I had the trans service done by the dealer at 39k miles as instructed by the owners manual, but I did not see any recurring transmission service. I also thought I remembered it being discussed on this forum that it was a one-time, non-recurring service. I would only be 3,000 miles over the interval anyway.

I have been serching around, and it seems that many people have experienced the same problem between here and benzworld. I think it is pretty apalling to have a transmission need nearly $2,000 worth of work at only 80k miles for a SENSOR FAULT. My 1993 chevy truck that hauled the MB's butt ~40-50 miles on Wednesday has 130k on the clock and towed a GCW of 12,000 lb all day... and guess what, that trans never skipped a beat and the only work it's ever had is flushes and filter changes.

I had the same issue, stuck in first and was told Turbine Sensor fault. They replaced the conductor plate for 1100
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I too have been experiencing this. Check out my thread.
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I've compiled this list so far... from the best that I can tell in threads just like this one.


moonrkr23 1-8-2012 2007 C230 contactor plate replaced
clifton001 1-10-2012 2006 C230 Claimed his was going in for same repair
Karo Not confirmed
Johnand (John Anderson) - 2007 C230 Went into limp mode once, threw 0730 code, not replaced yet
Jogger 1-11-2012 2007 C230 Went into limp mode a few times
JJSBenz 1-18-2012 C230 Went into limp mode, confirmed conductor plate
Norwichdelta06 2-3-2012 2007 C230 possible same problem
Cg_06c230 8-6-2010 2006 C230 replaced Electrohydraulic control unit for 722.9, transmission turbine speed sensor, transmission valve body, and misc gaskets after car kept going into limp mode
04mbc230 1-4-2012 2006 C230 limp mode, conductor plate
Zhuorongdeng 3-6-2010 2006 C230
Samflhomes 3-13-2010 2006 C230 limp mode, hard code, turbine speed sensor, valve body replaced
Mrluigi 5-14-2010 2005 CLS350 limp mode, 7G trans
Violato 5-20-2010 2004 E500 limp mode – turbine speed sensor code. VB replaced. 7G trans
Gbrewer 2-4-2012 2006 C230 104k miles
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And just found this one in the other thread, so 15 so far if they are all accurate.

Kikev 2-4-2012 2007 C280 sensor plate failure at 37,800 miles
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Errr yeah, not a good sign for our other 06-07 owners. But forums concentrate problems. Clearly something is amiss though.
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Agreed, but I don't think forum goers and hands-on owners are necessarily the typical MB demographic. I'm sure there are many, many more who just took it to the dealer and bent over without ever thinking about posting online about it.

I also never ventured outside of the W203 forum for that list, FWIW.
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It's unfortunate because MBUSA dealers cut corners, too.. so even if you think you're doing right by the car you're still being screwed.
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Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
Agreed, but I don't think forum goers and hands-on owners are necessarily the typical MB demographic. I'm sure there are many, many more who just took it to the dealer and bent over without ever thinking about posting online about it.

I also never ventured outside of the W203 forum for that list, FWIW.
+1 - I think there are a few more but they are hidden in obscure threads.
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