Crippled

For anyone who is interested, they are local here in silverspring MD. prices between 3 and 400, depending on what type of file and how aggressive you want it. I opted for a stage 1 which I can upgrade whenever i want and i must say I noticed a pretty nice gain right away. throttle response feels terrific and should have been like this from MB. Mid range feels like a different beast now, up top I notice that it doesnt feel like i am dragging a large weight out back anymore. I plan to drive it more for a few weeks to see what i think and i may go back for the stage 2 file.

ltcinf

This is great news. What did the stage 1 give you for up and torque? What does their stage 2 do? They do this in house correct?

Crippled

yes in house, there numbers are advertised same as upsolute but with the stage 2, you get a tad more timing and fuel. I think ill upgrade to the 2, but i am satisfied with stage 1

Crippled

just an update.......car is feeling fantastic, throttle response feels worlds better and bottom end seems like its getting even better than i originally thought. I am going for the stage 2 flash on thursday!!

ggms16

any dyno?

Crippled

no, and to be honest i prob wont. I have dyno'd my cars in the past for tuning purposes but i dont use them to see what I am making HP wise. so many factors when dealing with that kinda stuff. i can tell you this, it was worth every bit of the 300 bux I spent on the chip for the improved throttle response. And now the bottom end feels stronger so i know i gained a few HP. Lets say it only gained 5-10, well thats dam good for 300 bucks. To go to the stage 2 tune, will only cost me an additional 100, If I wanted to go stage 2 right off the bat it would been cheaper at 350 but o well. this was worth every penny

holeeshht

Is this an obdII flash? Im interested but a lil worried my dealer would know. Eurocharged sells a handheld flash that I can reflash back to stock whenever I need it to be.

kevink2

Is there a web site for this place? (at that location, they can likely make a pant load based on reputation, given the beltway Government money around there . Or a phone number? Can you ship an ecu there to be tuned?

This stage sounds a bit like the Sprintbooster, except better in that they mess with timing and fuel to increase the bottom end. Who knows it may include a SprintBooster type improvement by just changing the TB to a pure 1:1 linear response to the gas pedal, ie idle is idle, and 1/2 pedal is 1/2 open at throttle.

People will be more interested when they post some before and after dynos.

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Crippled

dynos are not an acurate way to see a tune, people who do not know any better think they do, but to each his own.

Speedtuningusa.com

call them up, they do not offer a hand held flash tuner like eurocharged, you send them your ECU or see them in person and he will tune it.

Crippled

your dealer can see when the last time the car was flashed and how many times the initial program has already been written, most if not all bosh me9.xx ecu's can show this (i am a programmer) so I have seen the innerworkings of a tune/ecu "os" before. You would be suprised what these ECUs hold and can do!

loungn14

agreed, but also why we don't trigger a full write...

kevink2

Thanks for the website link.

But when you make a statement like that, it's literaly like saying you know more about dynos than anybody else in the world. I don't claim to be such a person, but I haven't seen anything you said that suggests you know more than most.

If you have a 4 ft roller Dyno-Jet nearby, and you know the operators are trustworthy, and the before and after runs are close in date (and for a turbo, close to the same ambient temperature), the DynoJet will give you an accurate pair of runs to see % increase in wheel hp and torque, but not absolute values.

The DynoJet simply relies on the polar moment of inertia of the drum, which is calibrated at the factory by simple methods. Due to popularity, you can roughly compare results with other users of that dyno.

Here is an example of a good before/aft comparison for the Burger JuiceBox:

http://burgertuning.com/mercedes_benz_c250_JuiceBox

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Crippled

I use to do IT work for a shop with a 248c dynojet that Duno'd all my cars. The tuner who free lances there specializes in bosch me9.xx ecm's. I have set up and operatated that Duno more times than I like to admit. It's very easy to skew numbers and I can make it look like my c300 puts out c350 power and tq numbers. Last time up there my gti 1.8t with a pt67 gained 32whp just by taking the smoothing from 3 to 6! I do understand how a Duno works but thanks for the wiki copy and paste

Crippled

I have no before to compare the after to nor do I feel its appropriate for a grocery getter. But for the typical lb owner 300 is cheap and worth a try. I love mine. I would compare it to the feeling I had when I got a tune on my vr6 or srt8 or mustang gt.

joeobowyer

I am going for the stage 2 flash on thursday!!

kevink2

from me "and you know the operators are trustworthy"

I cautioned about turbos & dynos. The SAE CF formula is wrong for differences in ambient temps.

not sure what the "wiki copy" suggests. I'll take it as a compliment

I think the compexity of a brake dyno, based in some cases reading a force using a strain gauge bridge, offers more chances of giving a false reading. the dynojet output includes the smoothing factor, and provides guidelines for it's use.

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Crippled

just an update, my stage 2 is performing great, noticed a slight improvment top end and mid range performance. extremely happy.

serialize

couple of questions,

does anyone know if this kind of ECU flash available in Cananda ?
can this be done on 2009 C230 (w204) ?
I've heard from some friends with BMW tuners, they can easly reverse the flash prior to a dealer visit, can this be done on the flash you guys are using for MB ?

thank you.

kevink2

Speedtuningusa.com

Read this site and ask your questions. Caution: You may have to talk with somebody.

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kevink2

Did you get a chance for stage 2 ?

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Pete7874

So what happens when the dealer decides to update the ECU programming on your car and overwrites the tuner software? Will the tuner charge you again to have it re-loaded every time this happens?

Crippled

the owner oliver told me a c350 came in for the flash today. I will email him and ask how happy the customer was.

You would have to mail him your ecu if you are not local, he ships ecu's all over the world from what he has told me. call and ask about your specific application, I am sure he does as he does many european spec cars over the pond and up north. He said the other day a guy had brought in his lambo gallardo and was very pleased with the results.

For those that are local I will admit, his place of business isnt the best, he rents space from a local "garage" type shop but do not let that full you, I have watched him chip many cars including 4 of my own and he is very profesional. He did my fathers SLK55 amg not to long ago, maybe a year or so ago but that thing is an animal with full exhaust from supersprint and airbox from renntech.

He also does custom flash's for those who need it, He had a tune he could have adapted to mine that he had custom written for a 2009 c300 but the tune was very aggressive and was for a 300 with way more mods than I with my 2011

give him a call and I think you will be happy you did. Alot of his tunes comes from his sister company in europe I believe but I am not sure. I say that cause he does chip alot of cars that they do not offer here in the states.

Crippled

if that happens, he will chip you again. I am sure it will be free to very little to flash again, my VW had to be returned to stock again when I had a warranty issue not related to his software and he flashed me back to stock and back to chipped when the car was back from the dealer and never charged me for it. Hes a pretty stand up guy

ltcinf

All, I was the guy getting my C350 tuned yesterday. I will tell you I am extremely happy with the results. Quick off the line, mid-passing power for quick lane changes, NO THROTTLE LAG!! Oliver was great to work with-nice guy. Does Paypal or credit cards. Btw he does save the profile so if changes or updates are needed you can go back and get reflashed. I don't know the horsepower or torque numbers however you immediately feel he difference. Oliver told me the will get better as well over the next weeks as the tune settles in and the car adjusts. If you are expecting C63 type performance then don't waste your time. However if you are like me and just want immediate throttle response with solid acceleration and mid-high range passing power, this does he trick. At $399 it's worth it.

Crippled

i feel the same way, did you opt for the stage 2?

this makes car number 5 Oliver has chipped for me.