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Old 06-26-2014, 10:08 PM
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C63 Brake Upgrade On C300 - Detailed Experience and Review

Two years ago, I helped my Mom purchase a 2011 Mercedes C300 sport sedan. It was her first Benz. After seeing the C63, She wanted to incorporate certain parts of the C63 onto her C300. The first thing I did was add an OEM C63 rear diffuser and the quad tips.


After that, she wanted to incorporate the big 6 piston brakes along with some 19 inch HRE P44SC wheels. I did a lot of research on the big brake upgrade for the W204 chassis. I found a random 2011 MB C63 while surfing carmax.com and I noted the VIN number. This VIN number would be useful in obtaining the front and rear calipers. Do note that the VIN number I used was for a C63 without the performance package. I think the performance package has red calipers. The one tied to my VIN had silver. Not sure what the differences are between the red and silver calipers.
While doing research on the brake upgrade, I ran across this thread:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...04-sedans.html

While the price of the kit in the thread located above was high and probably justified, I was determined to piece together my own kit for a little less than what DCTMS was asking. I ended up creating an excel spreadsheet listing prices from the local Mercedes dealer here in Wichita and two other websites that I found while lurking the forums of MBWorld.org The two other websites were www.getmercedesparts.com and www.mymercedesparts.com The only thing I needed from DCTMS was the caliper adapters which I did order and receive in a timely manner. It was best to call DCTMS rather than email or private message through mbworld.org.


I priced out parts from mymercedespart.com, getmercedesparts.com and the local Mercedes dealer in Wichita. I ended up placing an order for C63 front and Rear calipers with mymercedesparts. The order also came with the bolt parts kit (the kit that includes the plate and pins that hold the brake pads in the caliper).


Mymercedesparts provided the best price between the 3 places that I checked. My mom made another request – she wanted the calipers to be Lamborghini orange. This left me two options – either have a body shop spray the calipers or have them sent out for powder coat. I checked with local body shops in my city to see if any of them would be up for the task.


One hot rod shop had sprayed brake calipers for a few Corvette customers with no problem. Other places had never done such a thing and recommended that the calipers be sent out to powder coat for long term durability. After talking to a few Corvette owners, I was referred to a Mike Golding at www.thepowdercoater.com


I sent an email inquiring about rates, turn-around time, and pictures of his work. Mike stated that he would disassemble, powder coat, and then re-assemble the calipers for what I thought was a reasonable price. His price ended up being cheaper than some of the quotes I was getting from local body shops. After the C63 calipers came in from mymercedesparts, I sent them out to Mike Golding for some Lamborghini orange color along with being re-branded with brembo decals. My Moms C300 is not an AMG vehicle so I wasn’t about to have her look like a poser by running AMG decals on a NON-AMG vehicle. Plus the AMG calipers were made by brembo anyway because somewhere on the caliper I saw “brembo” engraved into the body. It took him about a week to get it all done. Now the color isn’t an EXACT match to the Arancio Borealis lambo’s you see running around in this world, but it is DARN CLOSE. I was very impressed with Mike’s work, communication and service when the calipers got back to me.








Now the only thing I was missing were front and rear brake rotors along with front and rear pads. A friend of mine who is a shop manager at the local Sears really wanted to help out so he was kind enough to run prices for me in regards to C63 front & rear rotors, and front and rear pads. I was kind of weary about putting aftermarket rotors and pads on my Moms car, but since my friend really wanted to help with this project I went ahead and allowed him. Plus, I was willing to experiment with aftermarket stuff on this vehicle for curiosity sake. My Mom didn’t need anything high-performance like EBC, Akebono, or Porterfield RS-4’s. After all, this C300 is her daily driver. Not a track car.


He was able to get me some Duralast Front and Rear Rotors from AutoZone along with Wearever Gold front and rear brake pads from Advance Auto parts. All at his price scale which ended up being much cheaper than if I were to walk into the store and get them. Unfortunately, the Wearever Gold rear pads were incorrect. I didn’t experience this until I started the brake upgrade. It was about 8pm at night and almost everywhere was closed except one AutoZone store. Luckily, they had some Duralast rear brake pads for a C63. I wanted to keep the project moving so I ended up getting the rear brake pads from AutoZone.


The install of the C63 brakes onto the C300 was just like any other brake job that I’ve done. If you’ve done brake jobs that required removing rotors, pads, and calipers on any other vehicle, the concept is no different when it comes to Mercedes. The rear calipers and rotors bolted on easily. Almost like a direct fit. The front calipers were a little more difficult because those things are huge. The OEM C63 caliper brackets that came with the calipers need to be removed. The DCTMS caliper brackets will take their place. The DCTMS caliper brackets utilize the stock caliper bolts. I’ve tried to get some good pictures to show visual representation on how the caliper brackets look like when installed.








The installation of the front caliper brackets and calipers went rather smoothly with no issues. It was almost like a direct bolt-on. The front rotors measure about 14inches in diameter and are heavy. They are also a direct bolt on. No mods required. As for order of installation, I installed the caliper brackets to the hub first then put the caliper on top. There are two big allen head bolts (one at the top and one at the bottom) that will bolt onto the caliper brackets.



I did wonder about how much the added weight from the front rotors and calipers would add, but after driving the vehicle for over 1,000 miles it drives just like it did before. There were times where I thought the car accelerated slower, but maybe that was in my own head or due to the fact that I don’t drive the car daily as it is my Moms car. So far, she hasn’t voiced any complaints about the car other than that it’s a little noisier and the road is felt more. This is common especially when running big rims and low profile tire sizes.




The only issues that I encountered with this brake upgrade were the bleeding of the brakes. I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND using a mityvac or custom built brake pressure bleeder as that will work wonders on bleeding the brakes especially if you’re doing the install by yourself. I had a mityvac hand vacuum pump and it sucked. I got tired of bleeding the brakes by using the hand vacuum pump. I don’t have a mityvac brake bleeder so I had a friend do the traditional “pump the brakes” method – One guy pump the brakes and one guy opens the bleeder valve.


After I finished bleeding the brakes, I went out for a test drive. The brake pedal feel felt like nothing had changed. I would’ve thought that with 6 piston calipers up front the brakes would be SUPER TOUCHY, but pedal feel felt like nothing had changed. I didn’t worry about this much and put more emphasis on if the car could actually stop and that there was no air in the system. I had my Mom take a drive in it to see if she liked the pedal feel or noticed anything different, but she said it felt fine. After 1,000 miles of driving she has not voiced any problems or complaints about the brake system.


As for the wheels, I called a few dealers in California, but ended up going with Dave at Wheel Enhancement as he gave me the best package deal. Before ordering, I did let him know what modifications were going to be done to the C300. He didn’t know if the HRE’s would fit on the C300 w/ the C63 brake upgrade, but he called HRE and got an answer back stating that the C63 brake upgrade would be factored into the order of the wheels.


As for tire sizes he recommended 235/35/19 Fronts and 275/30/19 Rears. I was worried about rubbing with the 275 in the rear, but with a subtle 1” drop from a Bilstein B14 coil over setup I thought I’d give it a shot and see.

The package went as follows:
Fronts = 19x8.5 ET47
Rears = 19x10 ET 53
Finish: Brushed Tinted Aluminum
Tires: Hankook V12 Evo 2
Front = 235/35/19
Rear = 275/30/19








Wait time for the P44SC’s were about 5 weeks. I was getting anxious after 3, but when they showed up at my door step, I immediately opened the box and was in awe! The 5 week wait was absolutely worth it. The brushed tinted aluminum finish is hard to see in pictures. It’s one of those finishes that have to be seen in person to truly see the quality. I had been to HRE’s facility back in May 2013 and walked out of there VERY IMPRESSED with their operations.


The stock 18” OEM 7 spoke wheels my Mom had before the brake upgrade would not clear the 6 piston front calipers. The rear wheels cleared fine, but the fronts were a different story. I did some research to find out why. The size, width, and offsets of the 7 spoke wheels were the same as the 5 star wheels seen on some C300’s. In the brake upgrade thread located here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...04-sedans.html

It is shown that the 18” 5 star wheels DO CLEAR the big brake setup. Ivan at DCTMS did warn me that he did not know if the 7spoke wheels would clear. I am going to conclude that the 7 spoke wheels would not clear due to the spoke design. It didn’t really matter much to me because I had 19” HRE P44SC wheels going on the car anyway. I have attached some pictures to show that the 18” 7 spoke wheels do not clear the 6 piston front calipers.






After installing the HRE's, I had 1 passenger in the front, and 1 in the rear to see if rubbing would occur. Rubbing only occurred on the passenger rear side during small bumps, but it is VERY QUIET. I think in order to eliminate this I would have to roll the fenders. I plan to do that later on down the road.


Overall, the experience from DCTMS was great. The product arrived to me in about 3-5 business days and it was installed with no issues. The powder coating service from Mike at thepowdercoater.com was great and the Lambo orange color is subtle and not too loud. Dave at Wheel Enhancement and the guys at HRE Wheels came through and provided a great set of wheels. The brake upgrade can be done by anyone who has mechanical knowledge of automobiles. My first career choice was automotive tech, so I went to a local community college and received my technical certificate. I ended up changing career paths after receiving it, but utilized the skills learned to put use towards my automotive hobby.


It has been a wonderful 2 year long project and as an avid car enthusiast I know that the time, money, and labor invested in the vehicle is something I will never get back, but in the end my Mom absolutely loves the way her vehicle looks. The Lamborghini orange brakes sitting behind 19” HRE P44SC’s just look absolutely awesome when rolling down the highway! I’ll admit that I am jealous of her car because it puts my 05 C230 on 19” iForged wheels to shame. I just hope she’ll let me drive it every now and then so I can enjoy it too. =) =) =)




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nice write up! Thanks for the info about the AMG brakes that can be purchase separately from Mercedesparts.com and also the installation of the brakes. If i knew this before i sold my C i would have done this as well.
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Nice write up indeed. I want to do this upgrade in the future as well. Disappointed in hearing you didn't feel a difference though. Maybe it is the wheel/tire size combo. Maybe its the type of pads and rotor you used?
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Disappointed in hearing you didn't feel a difference though. Maybe it is the wheel/tire size combo. Maybe its the type of pads and rotor you used?
The thought of the abs control module ran across my mind, but after pondering, I didn't know how that would affect pedal feel. I didn't do any before and after tests in regards to stopping distance, but perhaps the difference may be in that area rather than pedal feel *shrugs*
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Great write up man. Definitely gives us more confidence to try it ourselves, that is for sure. But the setup is amazing. I wish i could do that, but i would not run 19" in Edmonton, maybe 18" but looks like we will need some pretty unique rims to clear those calipers.
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Ignore my previous post. Duh.
I just read the whole OP.
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Rotor for the C63, $1000+ YIKES!
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...or do I need complete setup? How about the brackets?
You'll need the brackets in order to do the brake upgrade. I think the brake upgrade will work on the GLK chassis. I thought I saw it mentioned in that AMG brake upgrade link. I mentioned it somewhere in first part of this thread.
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Was this done on a 4matic?
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hey "buklae620" can you please share your impressions of the Bisltein B14 coil overs..

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Was this done on a 4matic?
No. This vehicle is a rear wheel drive model.

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hey "buklae620" can you please share your impressions of the Bisltein B14 coil overs..

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The Bilstein B14 coilovers are much more firm than stock. Since there are 19" wheels on the car, road noise and bumps are felt more. It's rough though like the suspension is falling apart, but it is firm. I actually like the ride of the B14's.

I have 19s on my 05 C230 along with an H&R coilover suspension that was installed in august. The H&R's are a little more stiff. I wanted to get the B14s for my car, but Bilstein had them on back order and the wait time was over 2 months. I needed something right then and there which is why I went with H&R coilovers on my 05 C230.

You really can't go wrong with either the Bilstein B14 or H&R coilovers, but I would prefer the ride of the Bilstein B14s. The rebound and firmness of the suspension felt much more close to OEM.
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No. This vehicle is a rear wheel drive model.



The Bilstein B14 coilovers are much more firm than stock. Since there are 19" wheels on the car, road noise and bumps are felt more. It's rough though like the suspension is falling apart, but it is firm. I actually like the ride of the B14's.

I have 19s on my 05 C230 along with an H&R coilover suspension that was installed in august. The H&R's are a little more stiff. I wanted to get the B14s for my car, but Bilstein had them on back order and the wait time was over 2 months. I needed something right then and there which is why I went with H&R coilovers on my 05 C230.

You really can't go wrong with either the Bilstein B14 or H&R coilovers, but I would prefer the ride of the Bilstein B14s. The rebound and firmness of the suspension felt much more close to OEM.
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The Bilstein B14 coilovers are much more firm than stock. Since there are 19" wheels on the car, road noise and bumps are felt more. It's NOT rough though like the suspension is falling apart, but it is firm. I actually like the ride of the B14's.

I have 19s on my 05 C230 along with an H&R coilover suspension that was installed in august. The H&R's are a little more stiff. I wanted to get the B14s for my car, but Bilstein had them on back order and the wait time was over 2 months. I needed something right then and there which is why I went with H&R coilovers on my 05 C230.

You really can't go wrong with either the Bilstein B14 or H&R coilovers, but I would prefer the ride of the Bilstein B14s. The rebound and firmness of the suspension felt much more close to OEM.

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I had to make a correction on my post. Had to add the word "NOT".
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Can you explain why the brackets you had to source through DCT? Is this a custom adapter for the front calipers to fit these calipers to a non-C63 hub, or is it merely an item that can't be purchased?

We take delivery of our car this saturday, and brakes is on my list for sure. Car looks good by the way.
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Bringing this back to life.

Can you explain why the brackets you had to source through DCT? Is this a custom adapter for the front calipers to fit these calipers to a non-C63 hub, or is it merely an item that can't be purchased?

We take delivery of our car this saturday, and brakes is on my list for sure. Car looks good by the way.
The DCT caliper adapters are a custom item. DCT is the only company that I know that offers the caliper adapters. When I ordered the C63 calipers, they came with C63 caliper adapters, but they would not line up to the C300 hub. Hence, why the DCT caliper adapters are required.

If you wanted to disregard the adapters and try to mate C63 brakes onto a non-C63 hub, it's possible. I think you'll just have to replace the "non-c63" hub with C63 items. Which would more than likely result in more time and money.

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Ahhh ok, that's what I wanted to confirm. It isn't a direct swap, adapters are required. Cool thanks for the info. I will likely pick up a set of those, if they are still offered, in the near future.

I am going to piece my kit together as well. Since I plan to refinish the calipers anyway, I don't feel the need to purchase new. Girodisc is also local to me, so will see about having them make 2 piece full floating rotors for the C63 while I am at it. Thanks!


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