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10-06-2015, 10:51 AM
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Just drove a 2015 C300 as a loaner, and was really frustrated with the center console entertainment/nav controls. WHY would they muck this up? The W204 series was perfect, intelligent, and logically engineered. Or is it just me? nah....
Seriously tho - anyone else frustrated with it? I'd planned on moving up a couple years but after driving and seeing what the interior is like, I'll keep my 2012 until they fix some things.
Good points on the newer model - suspension was *nice*. Automatically flipping between the different settings was pretty trick. Also one more electronic thing to go out on... (and yes, I'm never happy. German engineer here! lol!)
Seriously tho - anyone else frustrated with it? I'd planned on moving up a couple years but after driving and seeing what the interior is like, I'll keep my 2012 until they fix some things.
Good points on the newer model - suspension was *nice*. Automatically flipping between the different settings was pretty trick. Also one more electronic thing to go out on... (and yes, I'm never happy. German engineer here! lol!)
10-06-2015, 11:34 AM
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Sorry you don't like the new interfaces to the sound system. I'd wager, it's just your familiarity with your current system and lack of familiarity with the new system.
I'm going from a 2012 E350 to a 2016 C300 Sport and I've the opportunity to play with the new system pretty extensively. Personally, I find it a giant leap forward. So to me and I suspect many many others Mercedes hasn't 'mucked' anything up.
I'm going from a 2012 E350 to a 2016 C300 Sport and I've the opportunity to play with the new system pretty extensively. Personally, I find it a giant leap forward. So to me and I suspect many many others Mercedes hasn't 'mucked' anything up.
10-06-2015, 12:05 PM
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I was driving it for a week, so I did have time to test it out. It's that obtrusive star trek looking pad that goes over the center dial is the most frustrating (not to mention feather light touch sensors on the thing). My hands aren't huge, but covering that dial is ridiculous.
Also the lack of integration of their display screen into the dash just looks like they just mounted an ipad mini to it as an afterthought. Major loss of design points.
Also the lack of integration of their display screen into the dash just looks like they just mounted an ipad mini to it as an afterthought. Major loss of design points.
10-06-2015, 12:25 PM
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I was driving it for a week, so I did have time to test it out. It's that obtrusive star trek looking pad that goes over the center dial is the most frustrating (not to mention feather light touch sensors on the thing). My hands aren't huge, but covering that dial is ridiculous.
Also the lack of integration of their display screen into the dash just looks like they just mounted an ipad mini to it as an afterthought. Major loss of design points.
Also the lack of integration of their display screen into the dash just looks like they just mounted an ipad mini to it as an afterthought. Major loss of design points.
10-06-2015, 01:16 PM
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Im not sure what you don't like about the touch pad? The new system retains the "dial" from the W204 but adds extra functionality. I've had extensive use of both and the new system just works better.
The only negative I've heard is from us RHD lads who find writing on it left handed a pain the in ***.
Keep your old tech............... you still rocking an 8track by any chance?
The only negative I've heard is from us RHD lads who find writing on it left handed a pain the in ***.
Keep your old tech............... you still rocking an 8track by any chance?
10-06-2015, 01:37 PM
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I don't like the touchpad either tbh Mainly an annoyance in its current shape. For example same "stroke" for for changing a song will sometimes change and sometimes just start fast forwarding. Its also physically covering the regular "dial". Not to mention that it doesn't work correctly with letter recognition in "Phonebook" mode.
Personally they could have skipped that "revolutionary invention" and fix some other embarrassing bugs and misses in the car.
I'm all for new tech when it works ok and actually provides significant improvement/feel/time saving over the old stuff.
Personally they could have skipped that "revolutionary invention" and fix some other embarrassing bugs and misses in the car.
I'm all for new tech when it works ok and actually provides significant improvement/feel/time saving over the old stuff.
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10-06-2015, 01:53 PM
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I've yet to find a feature of the MB offering that does something more intuitively than my BMWs Idrive. BMW have this down, MB have some catching up to to.
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10-06-2015, 02:01 PM
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I dunno........After driving MB cars for many years, I decided to give BMW a shot and I never felt iDrive was as intuitive as MB - To Me. I suspect a lot of this had to do with lack of familiarity, and being way more familiar with the MB interface. After over a year, I still didn't quite get the BMW system and I wound up coming back to MB. You know what they say.......different strokes........
10-06-2015, 02:04 PM
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I'll agree that as a new user it's not inherently intuitive or the simplest to use. I don't really have a problem with the trackpad layout but my issues are more with the interface itself and the sloooooooow response whenever you press a button or rotate the wheel.
10-06-2015, 04:10 PM
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To be honest, I think what systems you "get" are driven by, either your "first love" - ie the first one to really impress you and/or the way we are wired. What I mean by this is wherever you get two competing systems thar are largely the same, but different around the detail, you become attached to one, but the other will simply not make sense.
My evidence for this: VHS vs Betamax..... (We know how that played out). IOS vs Android.... At the end of the day, it's just about tapping a screen to open Apps.... yet you'll get one, but the other will always be a PITA to get your head around - because one you will do without thinking, the other means you try the pre-disposed (sub conscious) action - it doesn't react the way you expect, so you get grumpy and have to think about it for a second before trying again...
My evidence for this: VHS vs Betamax..... (We know how that played out). IOS vs Android.... At the end of the day, it's just about tapping a screen to open Apps.... yet you'll get one, but the other will always be a PITA to get your head around - because one you will do without thinking, the other means you try the pre-disposed (sub conscious) action - it doesn't react the way you expect, so you get grumpy and have to think about it for a second before trying again...
10-06-2015, 04:32 PM
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To be honest, I think what systems you "get" are driven by, either your "first love" - ie the first one to really impress you and/or the way we are wired. What I mean by this is wherever you get two competing systems thar are largely the same, but different around the detail, you become attached to one, but the other will simply not make sense.
My evidence for this: VHS vs Betamax..... (We know how that played out). IOS vs Android.... At the end of the day, it's just about tapping a screen to open Apps.... yet you'll get one, but the other will always be a PITA to get your head around - because one you will do without thinking, the other means you try the pre-disposed (sub conscious) action - it doesn't react the way you expect, so you get grumpy and have to think about it for a second before trying again...
My evidence for this: VHS vs Betamax..... (We know how that played out). IOS vs Android.... At the end of the day, it's just about tapping a screen to open Apps.... yet you'll get one, but the other will always be a PITA to get your head around - because one you will do without thinking, the other means you try the pre-disposed (sub conscious) action - it doesn't react the way you expect, so you get grumpy and have to think about it for a second before trying again...
10-06-2015, 04:35 PM
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Im not sure what you don't like about the touch pad? The new system retains the "dial" from the W204 but adds extra functionality. I've had extensive use of both and the new system just works better.
The only negative I've heard is from us RHD lads who find writing on it left handed a pain the in ***.
Keep your old tech............... you still rocking an 8track by any chance?
The only negative I've heard is from us RHD lads who find writing on it left handed a pain the in ***.
Keep your old tech............... you still rocking an 8track by any chance?
10-06-2015, 04:43 PM
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I am familiar with the interfaces used on BMW, Audi, Volvo, and Porsche vehicles. In my own experience, none of them are particularly user friendly. All require some time spent with the manual or an online instructional, plus lots of practice with the actual system.
COMAND is certainly not the most intuitive or direct system I've used but, I have to admit, that it does generally work well after one finishes the climb up the rather steep learning curve. Some things are just stupid, like the many steps involved in simply saving a radio preset ... a task that used to take one press and hold of a numbered button. Try editing a navigation entry some time.
The most common complaints being reported for ALL brands of new cars involve the difficulty in mastering the electronic interfaces. Some may seem simpler, but also offer fewer functions. I guess the real question then may be about our need for all this stuff in a car. Would the average buyer prefer less confusion and glitches at the price of less wizardry?
COMAND is certainly not the most intuitive or direct system I've used but, I have to admit, that it does generally work well after one finishes the climb up the rather steep learning curve. Some things are just stupid, like the many steps involved in simply saving a radio preset ... a task that used to take one press and hold of a numbered button. Try editing a navigation entry some time.
The most common complaints being reported for ALL brands of new cars involve the difficulty in mastering the electronic interfaces. Some may seem simpler, but also offer fewer functions. I guess the real question then may be about our need for all this stuff in a car. Would the average buyer prefer less confusion and glitches at the price of less wizardry?
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10-06-2015, 05:21 PM
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I am familiar with the interfaces used on BMW, Audi, Volvo, and Porsche vehicles. In my own experience, none of them are particularly user friendly. All require some time spent with the manual or an online instructional, plus lots of practice with the actual system.
COMAND is certainly not the most intuitive or direct system I've used but, I have to admit, that it does generally work well after one finishes the climb up the rather steep learning curve. Some things are just stupid, like the many steps involved in simply saving a radio preset ... a task that used to take one press and hold of a numbered button. Try editing a navigation entry some time.
The most common complaints being reported for ALL brands of new cars involve the difficulty in mastering the electronic interfaces. Some may seem simpler, but also offer fewer functions. I guess the real question then may be about our need for all this stuff in a car. Would the average buyer prefer less confusion and glitches at the price of less wizardry?
COMAND is certainly not the most intuitive or direct system I've used but, I have to admit, that it does generally work well after one finishes the climb up the rather steep learning curve. Some things are just stupid, like the many steps involved in simply saving a radio preset ... a task that used to take one press and hold of a numbered button. Try editing a navigation entry some time.
The most common complaints being reported for ALL brands of new cars involve the difficulty in mastering the electronic interfaces. Some may seem simpler, but also offer fewer functions. I guess the real question then may be about our need for all this stuff in a car. Would the average buyer prefer less confusion and glitches at the price of less wizardry?
10-07-2015, 07:23 AM
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10-09-2015, 12:32 AM
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I have the W204 and the W205. The new system with the touchpad is similar to the old one, but more complex, with many more options. It takes a little while to get used to.
As someone mentioned, as a righty driving a RHD car the touchpad is kinda useless to me.
At first, I preferred the old, pop-up screen on the W204. Now, I've grown to like the newer one, though I agree that it was at first almost an eyesore. It is the same screen used in the A, CLA (and others?). Obviously, they're trying to use more interchangeable parts across models. That's actually why I don't like the diamond grille -- It looks like the A-class.
As someone mentioned, as a righty driving a RHD car the touchpad is kinda useless to me.
At first, I preferred the old, pop-up screen on the W204. Now, I've grown to like the newer one, though I agree that it was at first almost an eyesore. It is the same screen used in the A, CLA (and others?). Obviously, they're trying to use more interchangeable parts across models. That's actually why I don't like the diamond grille -- It looks like the A-class.
