C55 Oil Change Question
10-23-2009, 07:07 PM
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Also, 1120100628 is the oil pan for a 1999-2006 M113 (4.3, 5.0 and 5.5). That means they're all the same depth. The NA 55 blocks are all basically the same. Is there a reason why the early NA 55 dipstick wouldn't work? It's part number 1130100072 and has a list price of $14. I just replaced mine and it's the same part for a 4.3, 5.0, and 55.
10-23-2009, 07:15 PM
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A couple of tips for those doing this job themselves. I prefer to drain my oil so some of these tips are for draining.
The oil drain plugs get torqued to 30 nm.
Always replace the copper crush washers, they're cheap at the dealership.
Like has been mentioned, have both drain plugs out after the filter is removed to get all the old oil out that can drain.
ONLY use the fleece oil filters, the OEM filters are Mann HU718/5 and a Purolator L25277 is a Mann HU718/5 with O rings made in Germany. I picked mine up at Advance Auto Parts for $11.49.
When replacing the filter, after it seats in the housing, it isn't all the way on yet. The filter will have two black lines on the side of the element and it is on far enough when one of the lines disappear. To make it go on all the way, you twist and push at the same time (I think clockwise but the filter comes with a picture showing)
I purchased the Baum tools #120-0721 dip stick and it is for a 113 engine that is in the C55. It won't go all the way in the tube and you will feel it bottom in the pan.
I put almost 9 quarts in and am at 155mm. I suspect that 160 is full, but since the range is 135-160 I never want to take a chance of over filling.
The torque for the filter housing is on the housing so that's a no brainer.
Mobil 1 0W-40 is the correct factory fill oil.
Just trying to help fill in some blanks. Phil
The oil drain plugs get torqued to 30 nm.
Always replace the copper crush washers, they're cheap at the dealership.
Like has been mentioned, have both drain plugs out after the filter is removed to get all the old oil out that can drain.
ONLY use the fleece oil filters, the OEM filters are Mann HU718/5 and a Purolator L25277 is a Mann HU718/5 with O rings made in Germany. I picked mine up at Advance Auto Parts for $11.49.
When replacing the filter, after it seats in the housing, it isn't all the way on yet. The filter will have two black lines on the side of the element and it is on far enough when one of the lines disappear. To make it go on all the way, you twist and push at the same time (I think clockwise but the filter comes with a picture showing)
I purchased the Baum tools #120-0721 dip stick and it is for a 113 engine that is in the C55. It won't go all the way in the tube and you will feel it bottom in the pan.
I put almost 9 quarts in and am at 155mm. I suspect that 160 is full, but since the range is 135-160 I never want to take a chance of over filling.
The torque for the filter housing is on the housing so that's a no brainer.
Mobil 1 0W-40 is the correct factory fill oil.
Just trying to help fill in some blanks. Phil
Thanks for confirming. I used the same Baum tool dip stick and always stay at ~160mm. Although I found this thread https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...l-warning.html and from the looks of it (post #18), you can go as high as 164mm. Maybe its taken into account the oil filter soaks additional oil in.
10-23-2009, 08:04 PM
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No, the oil dipstick tube is at the back on the passenger side between the airbox and the firewall. It has a red stubby plug with a bit of a square top to grab.
10-23-2009, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for confirming. I used the same Baum tool dip stick and always stay at ~160mm. Although I found this thread https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...l-warning.html and from the looks of it (post #18), you can go as high as 164mm. Maybe its taken into account the oil filter soaks additional oil in.
10-23-2009, 08:16 PM
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That is for engine oil?? That's dumb, why would they actually give it a dipstick tube and not spend the extra $1 to put a dipstick in it? So I guess that means the 5 speed trans on this car doesn't have a tube (like the other W203s with the 5 speed) and I'm going to have to get the trans service done at the dealer?
10-23-2009, 10:21 PM
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I suspect it's because they wanted the car to be more upscale and not have the crude device like a dipstick when they can add a bunch of sensors and allow you to check the oil level from the drivers seat. Me, I like simple and would MUCH rather have a dipstick.
10-24-2009, 07:08 AM
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Yeah, I do as well. Also so I can check the condition of the oil as well. The sensor does worry be a bit as well, what if it breaks and says the oil level is good all the time when there's only 4 qts in the engine?!
09-01-2012, 08:36 PM
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A pic is worth a thousand words. Thank u walle for taking this pics and thank u viper for pointing out which bolts to get to. The bolt facing the rear seems to have been welded on in my car! Whoever did the oil change prior to me buying the car has really over torqued this bolt. I gave up and that was with a pipe over the wrench for extra leverage.
sorry to bring this back from the dead. but im trying to figure out which plug(s) are for the oil pan and which are for the tranny fluid. im trying to do an oil change and when i went underneath the car i found 1 plug which i think is should be the oil
(click to see the red circle)
and then there were another two bolts which i think may be for the tranny fluid but i cant seem to find the second oil plug.
(blue and yellow circles)
i've been reading alot about a second oil plug... where is it? did i even find the first oil plug?
and one last question. is the oil filter the oil filter the filter looking thing with the sticker (replace with oem filter... blah blah blah) up on top of the engine where you could simply change it from popping your hood? up front close to the radiator support? (i ask becuase it seems to be a bit too easy finding that filter) sorry i come from working on my old honda and this is my first oil change i wanna do it right.
(click to see the red circle)and then there were another two bolts which i think may be for the tranny fluid but i cant seem to find the second oil plug.
(blue and yellow circles)i've been reading alot about a second oil plug... where is it? did i even find the first oil plug?
and one last question. is the oil filter the oil filter the filter looking thing with the sticker (replace with oem filter... blah blah blah) up on top of the engine where you could simply change it from popping your hood? up front close to the radiator support? (i ask becuase it seems to be a bit too easy finding that filter) sorry i come from working on my old honda and this is my first oil change i wanna do it right.
09-02-2012, 10:11 AM
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A pic is worth a thousand words. Thank u walle for taking this pics and thank u viper for pointing out which bolts to get to. The bolt facing the rear seems to have been welded on in my car! Whoever did the oil change prior to me buying the car has really over torqued this bolt. I gave up and that was with a pipe over the wrench for extra leverage.
09-03-2012, 09:39 AM
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It might have never been taken out before if it's only ever had the oil changed through the dipstick method (which doesn't get all the oil out). My drain plug was very tight the first time I removed it, they also put some sort of sealant on it from the factory. Just make sure to use a 6 point wrench so you don't round out the plug.
. I'm a diy guy, but would hate to strip this bolt. Are we absolutely sure the dipstick method of draining is inadequate? I am very tempted to d/l startek info. Tks.
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09-03-2012, 11:51 AM
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I had the same thing with overly tight drain plugs when I started doing my own oil changes when the warranty timed out. Apparently the dealers used the topside method.
My problem with the topside method is that there's ~1 liter left in the sump that can't be drained from the top.
My problem with the topside method is that there's ~1 liter left in the sump that can't be drained from the top.
09-03-2012, 01:12 PM
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There are plenty of people on here that believe it is adequate, but I don't. For one thing with the spit sump on the C55 oil pan the sucker can't remove the oil from the front half of the sump. The best way to drain oil is at full operating temperature and remove the oil filter first and most people don't do that either.
09-03-2012, 08:17 PM
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Since it is relevant to this conversation, sort of, do you guys know the official name for the two underbody pans/panels that you need to remove prior to doing the oil change? I am talking about the two panels that are held on by the 8mm screws. The rear panel broke on mine and I would like to replace it.
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09-03-2012, 08:21 PM
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They're called splash shields on getmercedesparts.com. The front one is about $50 and the rear one is about $110. I need to replace mine, too.
09-04-2012, 12:44 AM
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First time under a Benz, and I was impressed how everything (except exhaust), is covered by these high quality plastic splash shields. One of mine is cracked too and on its way out.
09-16-2012, 07:27 PM
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so anyone use these "Hengst" fleece filters in their C55 yet?
I did a search but only found random mentions of it on other models but noone actually talking about it. I woulda figured it would be a larger discussed item since mann stopped making their filters out of fleece and now out of paper which we all know last about half as long
I did a search but only found random mentions of it on other models but noone actually talking about it. I woulda figured it would be a larger discussed item since mann stopped making their filters out of fleece and now out of paper which we all know last about half as long
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so anyone use these "Hengst" fleece filters in their C55 yet?
I did a search but only found random mentions of it on other models but noone actually talking about it. I woulda figured it would be a larger discussed item since mann stopped making their filters out of fleece and now out of paper which we all know last about half as long
I did a search but only found random mentions of it on other models but noone actually talking about it. I woulda figured it would be a larger discussed item since mann stopped making their filters out of fleece and now out of paper which we all know last about half as long
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09-16-2012, 07:55 PM
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they stopped making fleece about 2 years ago...at least the version for the 05 C230, would seem weird that they only stopped making that one variant in fleece but kept the rest...but i suppose I'm not 100% sure about the M113 variant
09-16-2012, 10:13 PM
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oh ok cool, well dang cuz i just ordered the Bosch version since it was slightly cheaper...i wonder if it'll be fleece too
09-16-2012, 10:24 PM
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I'm not sure about the Bosch, I don't even see anyone who carries that. Advance Auto Parts usually has the Mann in stock at stores. Napa also carries the Mann brand. Looking at the pictures on some of the parts sites, there are; however, a few brands that just rebox the fleece filter: Napa Gold and Proselect, Wix, Beck/Arnley, and K&N.
09-18-2012, 08:42 PM
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ordered from amazon...came in today so idk, i'll be doing the oil change this weekend as well as installing my new remote starter from midcityengineering!
