ASE chip, Evosport ODPS

amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 08:06 PM

Hey all,

Finally had change to scan my dyno graph from yesterday.
The first four runs were with Evosport odps 91 octane.
It ranges from 309hp to 316.6
The last three were done with ASE chip, Evosport odps and 91 octane.
It range from 323.7 to 328.1

After the dyno Nima took me to his muffler man to have some stuff done to my exhaust. I have everything Nima has except the SL55 splitter and the BMC filter.
As of now I should somewhere near 335.
I will be dynoing my car again tomorrow, I'll let you guys know if I am anywhere near Nima.

Side note:
1. My car just came back from the dealer for Transmission repair. They found Radiator leak inside my transmission. They replace the Radiator and the most updated 03 E55 valve body and the control unit. I noice the tranmission is holding the gears longer and it's not searching for gears between 1500rpm to 2500rpm. Car simply drives amazing.
2. Last three dynos with ASE chip we didn't have the chance to let the computer adapt, therefore the gain was only 12 hp. I don't know if it'll give me more or not but I guess I'll find out tomorrow. If you average the first three dyno without the ASE chip and also average the last dyno with ASE chip you get the difference of 13hp.
3. I was dynoing with 19" bbs LMs, not sure if that would make any differerence on the out come of the dyno result.
4. Don't ask me what I did to my exhaust. If you want to find out you'll need to ask Nima. I promiss him I wouldn't tell anyone.

Thanks for listening

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amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 08:09 PM

one more attachment

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otoupalik · 07-02-2003, 08:14 PM

Cool, This confirms the roughly 10HP gain that Nima saw. Again, a nice gain. Not the 38HP or so that Nima claimed, but a nice little extra gain.

BTW, that little mod that Nima did can land you in jail for a federal offense - so be careful.

Thanks

Brad

amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 08:19 PM

Hey Brad, it's Charlie

Chip will definitely not give you 38 rwh even with S/C cars. Maybe turbo cars.
I actually lost power on my 996 which I change the chip.

Harris · 07-02-2003, 08:23 PM

What is the difference between the '03 E55 valve body vs. our original valve body?

amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 08:29 PM

Since all AMG transmission are the same. 03 E55 valve body is the most updated version valve body parts available. Valve body controls the shift, therefore even on normal driving my transmission tend not to shift under 3000rpm.
If your tranny fails and dealer need to replace a new valve body you'll be getting the 03 e55 valve body as of now. Maybe later they'll have an even updated version. You never know
Hope I made some sense.

otoupalik · 07-02-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amgc32
Hey Brad, it's Charlie

Chip will definitely not give you 38 rwh even with S/C cars. Maybe turbo cars.
I actually lost power on my 996 which I change the chip.

I still miss that 996 of yours! It was so sweet!

Give me a ring to catch up, you alwasy talk to Vadim!

Thanks

Brad

amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 08:46 PM

Brad, are you talking about this car

http://www.fototime.com/{A18247FE-D60A-4042-9A00-E2F9DE308503}/picture.JPG

JamE55 · 07-02-2003, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amgc32
Brad, are you talking about this car

http://www.fototime.com/{A18247FE-D60A-4042-9A00-E2F9DE308503}/picture.JPG

I can't see the pic??

amgc32 · 07-02-2003, 09:02 PM

copy and paste the whole link

Pierre32///AMG · 07-03-2003, 03:33 AM

Nice numbers amgc32!
Good for you and Nima!

I had installed my SL55 Y-pipe + thermo-isolated the air-box (yesterday), and there is a difference.
On one hand, the SL55 Y-pipe makes a HUGE improvement in acceleration response, and a progressive power line, perhaps some HP & TQ there for sure.
The thermo-isolation gives to my C32 now a prolonged “driving early morning” sensation.... and so on.
I have to dyno guys, and I will post pics soon!

Now amgc32, could you please tell me in details which was " THE some stuff done to my exhaust" that Nima's muffler man has done. My exhaust still bone stock...

no modifications yet

Thanks!!

otoupalik · 07-03-2003, 10:09 AM

Pierre,

They took the cats out.

Thanks

Brad

JasonC32amg · 07-03-2003, 10:20 AM

How many cats are there?

Vadim @ evosport · 07-03-2003, 11:16 AM

Jason: Four cats, two upfront at the headers and two in the middle of the car where the front seats are.

JasonC32amg · 07-03-2003, 11:25 AM

Thank you

Harris · 07-03-2003, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pierre32///AMG
....I had installed my ..... thermo-isolated the air-box (yesterday), and there is a difference.....

Pierre: how can the air box be "thermo isolated"? what has to be done?

Bux · 07-03-2003, 01:06 PM

pierre post some pics!

Vadim @ evosport · 07-04-2003, 02:27 AM

Jason: YAW - You Are Welcome.

otoupalik · 07-04-2003, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harris
Pierre: how can the air box be "thermo isolated"? what has to be done?

There are a few different methods. By far the most common is to wrap the intake in a thermo-wrap. This is a type of tape/wrapping that will not transfer the heat from the engine into the air-box.

This is an old racers/street-rod trick that works quite well.

We did this extensively to the European Car project M3.

Thanks

brad

JasonC32amg · 07-04-2003, 10:08 AM

A less hi-tech and aesthetically pleasing method is aluminum foil...

otoupalik · 07-04-2003, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonC32amg
A less hi-tech and aesthetically pleasing method is aluminum foil...

Actually, foil will work, but only a very small amount. Foil will reflect heat, but not prevent it from transfer. Foil is very thin with no heat blocking backing. The real stuff is not expenseive and works much better. You could do the entire intake for less then $100 in raw costs likely

E55AMG99 · 07-04-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonC32amg
A less hi-tech and aesthetically pleasing method is aluminum foil...

Wrapping it in aluminum foil is not as good as it sounds. To be effective, the foil cannot touch the item being insulated. Remember that metal is an excellent conductor of heat. If you insist on going low budget, pick up some scrap fiberglass insulation to wrap the airbox with BEFORE you use the foil. This will work much better but will still look out of place on a Benz. IMHO, Thermotec and others make some decent looking insulation wrap and blankets that will give it more of a racecar look.

Shine · 07-04-2003, 12:23 PM

First time we have a chance to check the Carlsson CM32K.
They did an amazing job on ECU/EGS rewritten.
It support a C320 to shift as C32AMG,that's upshifts at 6300 rpm
More study needed,that's an amazing supercharged C320 w
excellent s/w tunning.

otoupalik · 07-04-2003, 12:49 PM

yup!

07-02-2003, 08:09 PM	#2
amgc32 Almost a Member! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 71 Drives: Mercedes C32	one more attachment http://www.fototime.com/{25EDFF6B-D8AF-4FFE-9F53-DB2DA2FCD1A4}/picture.JPG http://www.fototime.com/{2D56CFF6-A707-47B0-AAFD-1824F671EE68}/picture.JPG Attached Thumbnails __________________ BBS LM 19x8.5 19x9.5 Philips 6000 D2s Evosport ODPS Chip Upgrade SL55 Y Slitter Exhaust work H&R springs litted door sills Painted front Grill 03 bi xenon head lights 03 E55 valve body GONE Replaced with 04 Honda Odyssey Last edited by amgc32; 07-02-2003 at 08:15 PM.

07-02-2003, 08:14 PM	#3
otoupalik MBWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,593 Drives: ones too fast according to CHP!	Cool, This confirms the roughly 10HP gain that Nima saw. Again, a nice gain. Not the 38HP or so that Nima claimed, but a nice little extra gain. BTW, that little mod that Nima did can land you in jail for a federal offense - so be careful. Thanks Brad __________________ Brad Otoupalik \| MBWorld.org Founder

07-02-2003, 08:19 PM	#4
amgc32 Almost a Member! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 71 Drives: Mercedes C32	Hey Brad, it's Charlie Chip will definitely not give you 38 rwh even with S/C cars. Maybe turbo cars. I actually lost power on my 996 which I change the chip. __________________ BBS LM 19x8.5 19x9.5 Philips 6000 D2s Evosport ODPS Chip Upgrade SL55 Y Slitter Exhaust work H&R springs litted door sills Painted front Grill 03 bi xenon head lights 03 E55 valve body GONE Replaced with 04 Honda Odyssey

07-02-2003, 08:29 PM	#6
amgc32 Almost a Member! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 71 Drives: Mercedes C32	Since all AMG transmission are the same. 03 E55 valve body is the most updated version valve body parts available. Valve body controls the shift, therefore even on normal driving my transmission tend not to shift under 3000rpm. If your tranny fails and dealer need to replace a new valve body you'll be getting the 03 e55 valve body as of now. Maybe later they'll have an even updated version. You never know Hope I made some sense. __________________ BBS LM 19x8.5 19x9.5 Philips 6000 D2s Evosport ODPS Chip Upgrade SL55 Y Slitter Exhaust work H&R springs litted door sills Painted front Grill 03 bi xenon head lights 03 E55 valve body GONE Replaced with 04 Honda Odyssey

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amgc32 Almost a Member! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 71 Drives: Mercedes C32	Brad, are you talking about this car http://www.fototime.com/{A18247FE-D60A-4042-9A00-E2F9DE308503}/picture.JPG __________________ BBS LM 19x8.5 19x9.5 Philips 6000 D2s Evosport ODPS Chip Upgrade SL55 Y Slitter Exhaust work H&R springs litted door sills Painted front Grill 03 bi xenon head lights 03 E55 valve body GONE Replaced with 04 Honda Odyssey

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Harris MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,439	What is the difference between the '03 E55 valve body vs. our original valve body?

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amgc32 Almost a Member! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 71 Drives: Mercedes C32	copy and paste the whole link __________________ BBS LM 19x8.5 19x9.5 Philips 6000 D2s Evosport ODPS Chip Upgrade SL55 Y Slitter Exhaust work H&R springs litted door sills Painted front Grill 03 bi xenon head lights 03 E55 valve body GONE Replaced with 04 Honda Odyssey

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Pierre32///AMG Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Viña del Mar, Chile Posts: 700 Drives: Porsche Turbo Stage 4, Cayenne S ... gone C43, C32, ML55 & Ducati 999.	Nice numbers amgc32! Good for you and Nima! I had installed my SL55 Y-pipe + thermo-isolated the air-box (yesterday), and there is a difference. On one hand, the SL55 Y-pipe makes a HUGE improvement in acceleration response, and a progressive power line, perhaps some HP & TQ there for sure. The thermo-isolation gives to my C32 now a prolonged “driving early morning” sensation.... and so on. I have to dyno guys, and I will post pics soon! Now amgc32, could you please tell me in details which was " THE some stuff done to my exhaust" that Nima's muffler man has done. My exhaust still bone stock... no modifications yet Thanks!! __________________ '01 Carrera Turbo, GT650, 100-200kph: 6.76 seconds, full weight, 0 shifts. '08 Cayenne Turbo (Wifes). '09 Carrera Turbo Cabriolet (Wifes). '13 Panamera Turbo (4rd ride).

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otoupalik MBWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,593 Drives: ones too fast according to CHP!	Pierre, They took the cats out. Thanks Brad __________________ Brad Otoupalik \| MBWorld.org Founder

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JasonC32amg Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 258 Drives: 2002 C-32 AMG Renntech	How many cats are there?

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Vadim @ evosport MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,038 Drives: C32 AMG	Jason: Four cats, two upfront at the headers and two in the middle of the car where the front seats are.

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JasonC32amg Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 258 Drives: 2002 C-32 AMG Renntech	Thank you

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Bux MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,527 Drives: G	pierre post some pics!

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Vadim @ evosport MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,038 Drives: C32 AMG	Jason: YAW - You Are Welcome.

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JasonC32amg Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Posts: 258 Drives: 2002 C-32 AMG Renntech	A less hi-tech and aesthetically pleasing method is aluminum foil...

07-04-2003, 12:23 PM	#23
Shine Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lean runner Posts: 972	First time we have a chance to check the Carlsson CM32K. They did an amazing job on ECU/EGS rewritten. It support a C320 to shift as C32AMG,that's upshifts at 6300 rpm More study needed,that's an amazing supercharged C320 w excellent s/w tunning.

07-04-2003, 12:49 PM	#24
otoupalik MBWorld Founder Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,593 Drives: ones too fast according to CHP!	yup! __________________ Brad Otoupalik \| MBWorld.org Founder

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