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Old 11-11-2011, 09:34 AM
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Need Your Help Real Quick..

I have a C43 and I have the following issue.

When I turn on the car I need to adjust the seat but the controls will not work on both driver/passenger seats.

SOMETIMES after driving a little while they will start to work.
Any ideas of what may be causing this?
Old 11-11-2011, 10:03 AM
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You may have a bad Fuse, or wiring issue, its happening to me sometimes when i leave the car for 2 or more days.........!!

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:52 AM
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The relay in the trunk is going bad. It is the "Comfort Switching" relay.
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Thanks so much! Will check this out.
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I looked online but cant find these relays. Called the dealer and they said there are 2 of these relays. They want $90.00 EACH plus tax.

Any suggestions where i can find them cheaper?
Also, anyone know what they look like and where exactly they are located?

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Old 11-13-2011, 10:07 AM
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That Black Relay got part #: "001 542 78 19", its in the Trunk, besides the small fuse box......

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Originally Posted by speed43
I looked online but cant find these relays. Called the dealer and they said there are 2 of these relays. They want $90.00 EACH plus tax.

Any suggestions where i can find them cheaper?
Also, anyone know what they look like and where exactly they are located?
I bet they do want $90. I'd like $75, but can't find anyone to pay me. That's because most standard 4 and 5 prong relays are under $10. Pull yours, go to an electronics supply house, and ask for one. The replacement may even say Bosch or Hella on the side.

One last offer - if you drive to my house, for $75 I'll sell you the relay and include my 30-second free install. If that doesn't fix the problem, I'll take $25 off the price

In all seriousness, with either a 4 or a 5 prong relay, all you care about is the amperage rating. Other than that, they're all the same and usually under $10.
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I bet they do want $90. I'd like $75, but can't find anyone to pay me. That's because most standard 4 and 5 prong relays are under $10. Pull yours, go to an electronics supply house, and ask for one. The replacement may even say Bosch or Hella on the side.

One last offer - if you drive to my house, for $75 I'll sell you the relay and include my 30-second free install. If that doesn't fix the problem, I'll take $25 off the price

In all seriousness, with either a 4 or a 5 prong relay, all you care about is the amperage rating. Other than that, they're all the same and usually under $10.

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mine did the same thing if you carefully take apart that relay you will see a tiny piece of solder that is cracked just carefully solder it back together and it will work fine .....fixed mine about a month ago no problems now
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mine did the same thing if you carefully take apart that relay you will see a tiny piece of solder that is cracked just carefully solder it back together and it will work fine .....fixed mine about a month ago no problems now
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Originally Posted by KJWHIT
mine did the same thing if you carefully take apart that relay you will see a tiny piece of solder that is cracked just carefully solder it back together and it will work fine .....fixed mine about a month ago no problems now
Thanks for the tip! I will try it as soon as I locate the thing.
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Can someone please shoot a pic of this relay? I cant find it. Im on my phone so i cant upload a pic of my trunk. Thanks
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If I remember right, you need to remove not just the fabric flap that covers the spare, but also the plastic cover that is underneath the fabric flap.
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Originally Posted by Saaboteur
If I remember right, you need to remove not just the fabric flap that covers the spare, but also the plastic cover that is underneath the fabric flap.
I did and found a black relay with part # 002 5422219 siemens and a grey one # 285 005 113 bosh.

And one relay right next to the fuse box # 0025421319. When i remove this one the car turns off.
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Is there no diagram? Either under the hood or at the back? As previously posted, the relay to change is the comfort labelled one. I had the exact same problem as you, changed up the relay and fixed.
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Marcus, how about snaping a picture and pointing me to the right relay?
I cannot find the right one yet!


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I bet they do want $90. I'd like $75, but can't find anyone to pay me. That's because most standard 4 and 5 prong relays are under $10. Pull yours, go to an electronics supply house, and ask for one. The replacement may even say Bosch or Hella on the side.

One last offer - if you drive to my house, for $75 I'll sell you the relay and include my 30-second free install. If that doesn't fix the problem, I'll take $25 off the price

In all seriousness, with either a 4 or a 5 prong relay, all you care about is the amperage rating. Other than that, they're all the same and usually under $10.
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Originally Posted by KJWHIT
mine did the same thing if you carefully take apart that relay you will see a tiny piece of solder that is cracked just carefully solder it back together and it will work fine .....fixed mine about a month ago no problems now
Can you please tell me which one it is? Lastnight i replaced a black 4 prong relay inches away from the rear fuse box. It dint help. I also replaced one in the fuse box under the hood which was also black with 4 prongs, didnt help either. Please guys help me out here and point me to the relay. Thanks.
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This is the Comfort Relay,, #: "002 542 72 19", replace by #: "001 542 78 19",

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Zayed,thank you! I went aheadc and changed that one and the one under the hood. Got them from radio shack, same 12v and im still having the same problem! Any other suggestions?
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Marcus, how about snaping a picture and pointing me to the right relay?
I cannot find the right one yet!
I have a W208 with ME 2.8. Your W202 w/ME 2.0 may be somewhat different.
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Just wanted to update this thread in case anyone else runs into this problem.
The comfort seat relay is the one located under the plastic cover that you will find AFTER removing the trunk carpet cover.

The cover has three plastic screws you have to remove with your finger/nail and the cover comes out. On the RIGHT side you will see a BLACK relay, It's held by "clamps" on each side. Use something thin like a nail filer (or the like) and spread the clamps away from relay and pull out. Not that easy but be patient and it will come out.

The relay has SEVEN PINS/PRONGS, and you can replace it with the item I pasted below (link). Or search for this part number= 002-542-22-19

Btw, I have not bought it yet. What I did was remove the relay, took off the relay circuit board from the black housing, pressed the one of the sides which clicked like a "reset?" than I installed it and my seats started to work each and every time!

I will be buying a new one just incase. Thanks to everyone that helped out!

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Originally Posted by speed43
Just wanted to update this thread in case anyone else runs into this problem.
The comfort seat relay is the one located under the plastic cover that you will find AFTER removing the trunk carpet cover.

The cover has three plastic screws you have to remove with your finger/nail and the cover comes out. On the RIGHT side you will see a BLACK relay, It's held by "clamps" on each side. Use something thin like a nail filer (or the like) and spread the clamps away from relay and pull out. Not that easy but be patient and it will come out.

The relay has SEVEN PINS/PRONGS, and you can replace it with the item I pasted below (link). Or search for this part number= 002-542-22-19

Btw, I have not bought it yet. What I did was remove the relay, took off the relay circuit board from the black housing, pressed the one of the sides which clicked like a "reset?" than I installed it and my seats started to work each and every time!

I will be buying a new one just incase. Thanks to everyone that helped out!

http://www.bimmerspecialist.com/usa/...42%2022%2019/3
I love those "AH HA" moments where you figure something out that has been bothering you for some time. Way to stick with the problem and thanks for posting the solution
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WaaW, congrat. finally finished that nightmare, Thankss for shared that ,, i well looking for that child & catch him.....

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I thank you you guys, i had this been bugging me recently on my ride, fix n go.

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