cm60k

Guys,

Anyone have changed the starter switch,, if so, is it need to reprogramme it to match the ECU..?, should i get it from the dealer specifically, cause i saw

one in MB spare parts shop here for ($565)......!!



ZAYED,,

nd4spd13

Why would you want to??

I'm sure that'd have to be coded at the dealer, and they might not even do it for you unless you bought it through them for fear that you stole the car and just bought a random ignition module

cm60k

Thankss,,

sure i agree with you about stolen worried,,

sometimes when i insert the key the switch door not open properly, same as when i remove the key, door not close(still in open position).....!?!?!

ZAYED,,

KJI3jflarryfe93

hey Zayed

did you solve this issue with ignition module?

cm60k

Sure Dennis, replace it & program it, works fine..

;ZAYED;

KJI3jflarryfe93

did you buy brand new part from stealership?
wasn't cheap???

cm60k

It's an used one, took it from imported donor W208..

;ZAYED;

KJI3jflarryfe93

could you marry the used part to your car electronics

cm60k

Definitely, will need a good Expert to program it with a key & ECU>>EIS fire-up authorization..!

;ZAYED;

KJI3jflarryfe93

dealership is then out of the question, Mercedes dealership didn't do your re-programing?

cm60k

Not in dealership,,

I went to a good locally Expert shop here, the guy do it within (2) hours, and made a spare as well..

;ZAYED;

KJI3jflarryfe93

I guess I have to go to a shady chop shop doing the re-programing

cm60k

Good idea..

;ZAYED;

DRBC43AMG

I imagine that needs to be done with STAR or a good quality clone...

KJI3jflarryfe93

if i have to replace my ignition it's only a dealership job.

W202AMG

What about replacement of the ESL unit? I have a brand new OEM unit coming from Germany, does that need programming or just install it and it works?

fredtga

ECU + EIS + ESL + Key they're all paired. If you need to do a quick straight swap into your vehicle, make sure you get all these components from the donor vehicle.

I've just done this process the other day on a w210 and worked with no problems.

Note: you need to remember that once this swap is done, any replacement key or any ignition component issued by the dealer for your car will not work anymore.

If you need to replace only one component from the ignition, it will require programming for your car. Most likely the dealer will program only brand new parts purchased thru them.

W202AMG

You mension 'donar car parts', but what i bought is brand new from a Mercedes Benz genuine parts supplier.

This ESL has never been fitted to a vehicle, and they seemed to be of the belief it could be fitted straight to the car and would operate correctly, and after 40 starts it would be permanantly locked to my car. They said once that happens, it wont work in any other car without programming. This 40 starts thing is what im interested to know about.

This is not the keys or the EIS, i still have all 3 original keys and theyre perfectly fine.

This is only the steering lock, and it is BRAND NEW, never used or installed.

fredtga

Did the dealer ask you for the VIN number when you ordered the ESL?

I don't know if ESL falls within the "40-starts" category, but you might as well try it if you already have the new ESL. Don't worry about installing it in place, just plug it in and try to start the car to see if the new ESL reacts.
If it doesn't work, your car won't even start.

From what i've been reading, the "40 starts" thing always refers to the ECU - EIS pairing and ESL is not always specified since it looks like the ESL is still an option for DAS3 authorization. Yet, i've never seen a car equipped with DAS3 and not having an ESL.
Still, even in this case, the ECU and EIS must be variant coded before installation and after 40 starts these will be married forever and there is no factory procedure to undo it. Some documentation says that if you cut power to the ECU for about 30mins you might be successfully reset the counter if 40 starts have not been reached yet... but this is a different story than your issue.

Let us know if the new ESL works....

W202AMG

Yes they checked the VIN, and found i also needed a bolt kit, so that is with it too.

It hasnt arrived yet, but when it does ill give it a try.

The supplier i bought it from said they couldnt find any info that said it needed programming, they were not really certain though either.

Info about this part seems very hard to find, so itd be good to have someone that has done this and knows for sure!

As long as it would start again by plugging the old unit back in im not too concerned, but that 40 starts thing had me concerned.

fredtga

Let's see how it works in your case.

Either way, ESL is not a major issue in any MB. You can find easily for cheap ESL emulator to fool the ECU and EIS so you can bypass completely the ESL with these type of devices:
http://us.ecutool.com/MB-ESL-Emulator_5521.html

W202AMG

Yeah ive seen those. That would void my insurance, and i like the sound it makes when you put the key in