RobertM27

Hey guys, I'm looking to upgrade my suspension, and I've a dilemma, I can either go with Koni Yellows, and Vogtland springs, which I know many of you guys have, or go with KW V2 coilovers, which I know many of you don't have. The price difference is about $400 dollars which isn't much so if any of you have any advice on this matter. I'm not looking to make this car a track monster or anything, but something with a nice tight feeling, and something that is competent on the canyons with cars like E36 M3's and the like.

benzslo

H&R + Bilstein

KJI3jflarryfe93

go with KW if money is not a problem.
ask DRB for advice he's got KW on his T-rex AMG

PJmak

H&R plus bilstein wont do for what you want....i have that setup and ive spent many nights running down canyons. I doubt konis and vogtlands would be any different.

If money is not an issue definetly do kws. There is a member here with that setup.

Have you looked into H&R cup kit? Ive driven in a 202 on a track with a cup kit installed and its much more stable then my setup was.

Btw deleting your sunroof will help a lot when cornering

RobertM27

Wow now that's the kind of helpful reply that makes this forum great, I haven't looked at the h&r cup kit, mostly because I've always heard stories about h&r springs sagging, obviously I don't know if that's the case with the cup kit, but I'll definitely look into it.
As for deleting my sunroof, I don't think I'm looking to make it that great of an handling car, besides I really enjoy my sunroof

nd4spd13

KW is king. If there wasn't usually such a price difference between springs + shocks (whether Vogtland, H&R, Eibach, whatever) and the KW kit I'm sure a lot more of us would be running them. Can't beat the quality and adjustability. But I'm super happy with my Vogtlands + Koni Yellows. I don't think you can go wrong here, but the KW is superior. It's just up to you whether it's worth the money or not

RobertM27

I have read to run the KW as fully intended (adjusting the shocks) I have to modify the spring perch is that correct?

nd4spd13

Not that I've heard of. Check out DRB's thread here. I didn't see him mention anything about it

DRBC43AMG

Hi RobertM27,

I can vouch for the KW suspension. I wouldn't want anything else, not unless I could get custom suspension parts. The nice thing about the KW's is that the suspension is fully adjustable (height) front an back. The shocks also but only on rebound. Plenty of info in my thread under my signature https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...g-wake-up.html

If you are going to do the upgrade yourself, I would strongly recommend you use the appropriate spring compressing tool. Springs are very nasty pieces of equipment which can cause very serious injuries, or more, should a spring pop out when you are working on them. I nearly wiped off my thumb when removing a spring

Super B

Sound advice, I was trying to be cheap and get by with a macpherson strut style spring compressor on the benz. Was all going well until the spring was almost fully compressed and the compressor started slipping on the coil. It worked
Itself clear around until both compressors were on one side of the spring and the spring was bulging outward and there was a brown stain in my pants. What sucked even more was having to get back in there and loosen the compressors with it like that. The compressor is a lot cheaper than personal injury.

RobertM27

Great advice, I know of a few people who regret not using a spring compressor. That's partly the reason I'm looking for a trusted shop to do the install.
I wanted to ask how easy are the adjustments? How long does a typical adjustment take?
I'm now almost 100% sure I'm getting the KW's, but I just love finding out all the little bits of information I can before I purchase something worth so much.

jnolte

h&r AND Koni adjustable shocks

mickey13

Vogtlands + Konis should run you a little less than $750. Just curious if you're getting KWs for ~$1200?

RobertM27

Well my friend had a Tirerack wholesale account which had the KW at around 1300, but I checked again and they have taken them down. I'll have to call and see what happened, but as of right now the regular retail price ($2100) is a little out of my budget

w202mylove

This is my c36 on konis and Vogtland springs. Love the ride and handles pretty good

DRBC43AMG

A pity because the passenger and camera man was really being thrown around. A stable camera support would have been great

DRBC43AMG

I paid mine 1'177.00 Euros (without taxes) in Germany from Siekmann Tuning.

w202mylove

I agree lol, will see what I can do next time. It's hard to get the speed in a realistic way on camera, however I can tell you guys there is about zero bodyroll. On this type of roads I am able to hang with an E46 m3

PJmak

If you wanna push your car hard, vogtland, bilstein, konu
I, h&r, and non enof that crap will do.

If you wanna do canyon runs(which you shouldnt do anyway

Then itll be just fine.

sometimes a car with a bit of roll can be more fun...

RobertM27

Thanks for all the advice guys, I think I'm gunna put the modifications on hold, until either I find the KW's for cheaper, or until their retail price doesn't hurt my pocket as much. I'm already on euro springs so at least it doesn't look like monster truck, plus a tune and secondary/resonator delete. I think I'm just going to focus on reaching the limit with what I have now. I still have some ways to go in terms of fully mastering the car, so I'll work on myself first, then later the suspension and 5.5 swap will come

FrenchBenz

Spoken like a wise man

RobertM27

In the meantime I think we should turn this thread into a video request thread. If anyone wants sound clips, canyon run videos, or anything for that matter, I could easily get it done for them. I will be posting my canyon run videos that I did recently in Mexico.

FrenchBenz

Agreed I think we should have a video thread as we have a picture thread. C43 and C36 videos are rare enough online and sometimes very bad quality. We should get it pined at the top with the other threads. I can't remember the title of it but there was one with a couple great videos taken (intake, exhaust, etc.) with an external mic. This could be a good start.

RobertM27

Yes those were actually my videos

FrenchBenz

You know that, I was pretty sure about that right after posting and checking your username. Well great videos once again I'm not a mod so I can't do this but let's get somebody like DBR or someone with the privilege to do so.