KJI3jflarryfe93

Dis is for you Shidosi
You've been asking many times for this special vehicle.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p

Saaboteur

Would love to see more details on the McLaren specific details!!

nd4spd13

Only £4,200?? Wow!

DRBC43AMG

Dennis, you just woke me up! £4'200.- for this special McLaren model is a give away. It looks relatively clean on the photos. I'm sure every C43 owner would be very interested in knowing how the 390hp is obtained...

KJI3jflarryfe93

send an email to seller and ask about the car specifications

DRBC43AMG

Yeah, I posted a thread on the UK forum http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/gener...3-mclaren.html
and got some replies and a link to a thread dating 10 years ago. Some further info there, but I doubt 90 specific models were made, more like 6 seemingly and one going to David Coulthard who was driving for the F1 McLaren team at the time. I also feel that 390hp is totally unattainable without some very serious and heavy engine mods.
PS I also doubt the owner/dealer has more in depth info.

KJI3jflarryfe93

if you contact UK Mercedes Magazine, maybe they can provide you with info about this McClaren model?

what's a sump guard?
did this car have dry sump?

DRBC43AMG

Normally a sump guard is used to protect the engine oil sump. It is used on rally cars which go flying around the woods and on dirt roads. A C43 has never been seen in those kind of conditions as far as I am aware, not unless someone is crazy enough to try, but I doubt he will get very far....
Some examples: http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/sump-guard

KJI3jflarryfe93

didn't w116 450SEL 6.9 liter have a sump guard system?
is this also called dry sump?

PJmak

How the hell do you get 90 hp out of a c43?

I dont think anyone has ever been able to do that in the history of w202 forums.....not without forced induction mods

benzslo

I think it's pretty obvious the car does not make 390hp if it's a 4.3. Guys just accept that it is a mis-print or mis-information. There is a ton of mis-information out there, that's what the internet is all about I see it on here every time I log in.

no, a dry sump engine has a remote oil tank which all the oil for the engine is held in.
a sump guard is more of a crash bar for the oil pan.

Pagz

Maybe 5.4?

I've asked for the VIN to check data card, if mcclaren did this as any sort of factory install it should show up in the numbers

KJI3jflarryfe93

cool, thanx for explaining.

DRBC43AMG

Dry sump engine = Porsche. They have had them on all the 911 models

cm60k

What's the advantage with dry sump..?!?

ZAYED,,

KJI3jflarryfe93

i think it's if you corner a lot and all oil ends up in one corner of the engine giving no lubrication or oilpump sucking air, dry sump prevents this if i'm correct?

cm60k

I see, sounds REASONABLE...

ZAYED,,

ECTurboGSX

Correct, the oil is stored in a separate container rather than in the oil pan (ie wet sump) that we see on most cars. It prevents oil starvation during high G loads, which can be turning and in some cars, braking based on where the pick up is.

The other advantage is that the sump (or oil pan) on a dry sump engine is much smaller since it is not required to store the engine oil. This allows the engine to be placed lower in the vehicle for better vehicle dynamics. Dry sump engines can also have a much larger oil capacity since it does not have to be stored at the base of the engine. When you think about endurance racing, having more oil allows for less overall breakdown over time since all of that wear is spread over more oil. So it is definitely a performance advantage but it can introduce more complexity and cost into the system. There can be as many as five or six additional pumps required to move the oil through the system and each of these is a failure opportunity and an added cost for the vehicle, which is why it isn't more popular except on very dedicated sports cars.

An air cooled 911 takes ~10.5 quarts of oil for an oil change, just as a point of reference.

You could also dig around and look at AccuSump, which is kind of a poor man's alternative to dry sump.

svt ricco

I'm pretty sure McLaren has the resource/ funds to do this

cm60k

I heard McLaren/UK put 5.0l with gearbox from R129 SL500,

then equipped it with forged pistons/rods/cams/springs/Bilstein gas adjustable suspension,,

i read that around 8 years ago, i googled that, but no chance to find it...!!

ZAYED,,

Pagz

Zayed, I believe 5.4 was built from 5.0 heads and block by AMG?

Note comment top left corner M113.961 used to build C55 M113.983 http://www.club202.com/forums/attach...4&d=1388782319

Maclaren maybe went a step further like Brabus 5.8?

cm60k

Good info. Paul,

Maclaren could done 5.8l, it's reasonable that reaches 390-400hp...

ZAYED,,

Pagz

Sure np Zayed,
Owner came back with VIN - WDB2020332F766791. Cant see anything on the datacard that indicates an engine swap like you would with C55.
The pics they sent through show rust spots all around the common areas.
There is a hand written registration card saying "Mclaren sport" and WDB2020332F766791/9 , maybe the /9 provides more data that I cannot see in EPC?.

cheers

ruzhkata

I don't see anything McLaren in the car. And if it was that rare why is the price so low? I can snap an AMG badge on my c280 and call it a c28 AMG. If mclaren messed with the engine, then it would be engraved somewhere. There's so much scam on the sale ads, but seems like many fall for it. Like for example I saw a "S500" for sale that looked exactly like my c-class except it had the S500 badge on the rear. I called the guy, and he was trying to sell me an "s500" i was not sure if he was that dumb or he was looking for someone dumb enough to pay 8,000 USD for a 96 C220.

Pagz

Yes so far not much hard evidence - a Mclaren sticker on the dash and hand written registration with "Mclaren sport".

fire extinguisher?

I've asked if there is any more info in the service book holder.

The chassis looks rough, I know that if you can see a fair amount of rust out the outside there will be far more on the inside!