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Old 05-14-2015, 02:36 PM
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You can put any 722.6 gearbox that has (580Nm) or higher..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
You can put any 722.6 gearbox that has (580Nm) or higher..

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do you just swap the 4 finger flange at the end of the transmission to a 3 finger flange then fit the tranny to your car?
nothing else needs to be done?
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Does that mean an E55 trans with the manu-matic shifting will work in our cars? Like the '00 C43?
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you will need to check your TCU. If you are running the EGS52 then yes this will work as far as I know.
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Originally Posted by jgro1976
Does that mean an E55 trans with the manu-matic shifting will work in our cars? Like the '00 C43?


what i learned from another forum.
is u need to modify/work the tunnel where the shiftermechanism is situated.
so its deffinately not a plug and play thing.
i wanted to do this too when i got a complete donor E55 from 2000.
in the end i only used the engine and engine harness.
the rest was sold to cover expenses.
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Originally Posted by jgro1976
Does that mean an E55 trans with the manu-matic shifting will work in our cars? Like the '00 C43?
Yes, E55 gearbox will work, even the touch-shift one, don't need to change the shift lever or TCU to let it work, that's another thing..!

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Originally Posted by kowalski
do you just swap the 4 finger flange at the end of the transmission to a 3 finger flange then fit the tranny to your car?
nothing else needs to be done?
Yes Exactly Dennis, from 4 fingers flange to 3 fingers, that's ALL..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yes Exactly Dennis, from 4 fingers flange to 3 fingers, that's ALL..

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that's great brother.

i hope i never have to change my tranny but if i have too then i will try to buy a late version 2001 - 2002 tranny from junkyard
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1998 W202 C43 ///AMG 5.4
with the proper mileage off course


am i miss reading??
if i understand correctly here's told the tunnels are different.
please correct me if im wrong..


https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...-models-9.html

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Tunnel must to be changed if you go with tip-tronic shifter only, no need to change it if you will stick with your stock shifter..!

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Originally Posted by kowalski
that's great brother.

i hope i never have to change my tranny but if i have too then i will try to buy a late version 2001 - 2002 tranny from junkyard
Good idea, but more better if you go with 55K or S/SL600 gearbox futurely..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Good idea, but more better if you go with 55K or S/SL600 gearbox futurely..

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can i use a tranny from w211 E55AMG Kompressor or later R230 600 SL-cars?
do these trannies fit the c43 with correct gear shifting?
it doesn't matter if these trannies come from Tiptronic family, they will fit perfectly on c43?

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Yes, You can put any 722.6 gearbox, even late one,

if you go with any of these late gearbox, you just need to expand the hole in tranny mount bracket,,

nothing to do with gear shifting, TCU should handle that, with stock 3.07:1 Ratio..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yes, You can put any 722.6 gearbox, even late one,

if you go with any of these late gearbox, you just need to expand the hole in tranny mount bracket,,

nothing to do with gear shifting, TCU should handle that, with stock 3.07:1 Ratio..

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how do you expand this hole, by cutting it up?
"need to expand the hole in tranny mount bracket"
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As i remember; make the left hole larger about 2-3mm in tranny bracket, to let tranny mount set properly,,

it's soo simple..!

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Originally Posted by cm60k
As i remember; make the left hole larger about 2-3mm in tranny bracket, to let tranny mount set properly,,

it's soo simple..!

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makin hole bigger with power drilling?
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Yes, sure..

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I find it that the 5.4 is a lot quieter than the 4.2. Is it just the ML55 motor or are all of the going to sound the same. As far as im i formed, all the motors mentioned here are identical...

I have my resonator deleted and i can barely hear the car. The old motor was noticeably louder
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mine sound way more "heavy"...
did u empty your 2nd cat's?
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I didnt do anything to the cats.

I just deleted my resonator
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Originally Posted by PJmak
I find it that the 5.4 is a lot quieter than the 4.2. Is it just the ML55 motor or are all of the going to sound the same. As far as im i formed, all the motors mentioned here are identical...

I have my resonator deleted and i can barely hear the car. The old motor was noticeably louder
I think this may vary from car to car, as well. Both my C43's have identical engines and identical factory exhaust. My 1998 has what looks like all new exhaust from rear cats to the back, even.

But my 1998 is whisper quiet. It has 100k less miles, but it's REALLY quiet. My 1999 has the original exhaust on it and 300k miles and the exhaust is noticeably louder and the car performs slightly better than the 1998 despite all figures indicating the 98 should be quicker/healthier
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I guess the horses in one 43 get to eat hay while the horses in the other get oats. That will make a difference I guess...
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I guess the horses in one 43 get to eat hay while the horses in the other get oats. That will make a difference I guess...
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Hi Guys! A quick update..

My transmission gave up the ghost during last Autumn and I had it rebuilt over winter..

I was going to get a 55AMG transmission as I'm still running my 430 box, but after looking it over my builder decided I needed an upgrade of double side clutch packs with the maximum 6 pack (5 previous), new selector forks, Torrington bearings and thrusts together with a gearbox bearing and sprag. He also changed and modified my valve body as he said it's prone to fail in 2nd gear.. (I don't know exactly what was done).

He flushed everything out as bits of metal from the bearings contaminated the oil. He cut open and resealed my stall converter too.

While this was done I updated my cone filter for a larger diameter 4in (up from 3in) and did the connecting pipe in 3.5in before wrapping it again with gold DEI tape.

I also added Evans waterless coolant. This actually saved me towards the end of Autumn when on the highway my lightweight crank pulley broke and I lost my water pump (now running OEM). The temperature shot up and I drove for 2 miles in the red to get off at the next turning. The warning for engine oil too hot didn't come up which is why I drove on. Normally I'd never attempt this being an aluminium engine!..

I can't say I can feel the difference in pulleys. But at the time of my AMS pulley install I did notice my revs rise quicker. I'll look to find another or hopefully Weistec bring theirs out soon as they did email me to say spring 2016...

The results from these updates are very noticeable!.. My car pulls harder shifts quicker and slightly firmer with a slightly louder exhaust note. Driving normally around town the shifts are very smooth, to the point you don't notice them, you only hear the engine note change.. With my foot to the floor it feels like a manual gear change and sounds a bit like a more modern car with the ignition cutting for a split second.. Driving manually is so much more fun. I get a lot more engine braking and so have to learn how to drive my car again!

I may run my air filter 4in all the way to the firewall to see if any better? I've yet to run a new dyno but I'm loving it!...
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Good Joooooob, looks Awesome..

just need to insulate the filter..

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