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Great idea George and I'm sure it will give some interesting positive results.
However, I wonder why the MB engineers designed the part with baffles. Is this to get a better flow of air? I'll ask my wife's son who's and engineer and a specialist in hydraulic and flow dynamics.
Question I have. How do the baffles shaped from one side of the bend to the other? Are they curved like the bend?
Last edited by DRBC43AMG; 07-07-2016 at 10:07 AM.
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Great idea George and I'm sure it will give some interesting positive results.
However, I wonder why the MB engineers designed the part with baffles. Is this to get a better flow of air? I'll ask my wife's son who's and engineer and a specialist in hydraulic and flow dynamics.
Question I have. How do the baffles shaped from one side of the bend to the other? Are they curved like the bend?
Thanks, I really like the results I've gotten on my car.
I doubt the baffles help air flow.
If that was true I wouldn't feel any gains after being removed.
And I mean the throttle response is insane!
And yes the baffles go with the shape from one side to the other.
They are so light that shipping it to your destination shouldn't cost much.
I might be wrong; these bend baffles will helps for direct air directional to the TB flab,,
and the main point for "-curved designed-" is when the air comes hot, (density & flow) will be differ that when it cooled..!!
,,ZAYED,,
I'm no engineer but all I can say is when I first thought about modifying this housing I started with just removing those baffles. After I did so I noticed performance right away. It did get better the more I drove. That's when I decided to do more work to it by cutting the back part off and raising it more for better air volume. And that helped out even more, hopefully Daniel will find out when he asks his wife's son.
But even if the guy says different I know what I feel and notice. It's like when I first did the air box, how many people doubted that the air box would not make any difference in performance. Well it did and this mod also works just as I have said. The difference in throttle response is CRAZY. I can now step on the gas pedal from a stop sign and the traction control light will flicker till 40MPH, it didn't do that before. And when at 19-25mph and I stomp on the gas pedal it lifts the front end of the car and it goes!
But I do have a different air box I modded for myself taken from the clk500. But the point is that it never did that before till I modifed this housing. This mod helps the throttle response greatly and pushes air flow faster to the thottle body opening. I can't see those baffles actually helping air flow. And if you meant that those baffles will cool the air before reaching the throttle flap I can't see that happening in split seconds. I may be off on that if that's what you meant.
Bottom line is that if Mercedes design these flaps to HELP air flow, what in the world happen to the rest of the air system design???? You know what I mean? 1 inch between the maf and the air box for this engine to breathe? And all that plastic inside that just restricts the incoming air flow? Makes no sense.
My next mod for my car will be to port the throttle body. That with this housing mod will be a marriage. But maybe Mercedes left it un-ported for better air flow, I don't think so. They seem to concentrate on the majority of people wanting a quite air system. It's like apple, they give people what THEY think it's best, and if Apple says that its best,than it must be.
I have done tons of reading on air boxes and its system and why manufacturers restrict it. I won't go into it but it's not for us to gain or have the best performace. Even AMG disappoints in that they add such low profile air boxes...
It's like one guy wrote "America has know about bigger air boxes better performance, But the Germans have yet to catch on." Take one of these modded housings and test yourselves. You don't notice any gains I will refund every cent right back to you including all the shipping charges! That's how confident I am that it DOES make a difference. Sorry for the long post.
OK peeps, I had a long conversation with "Junior" this noon and he doesn't understand why baffles are set in that elbow. Removing them will not do any harm and a nice smooth finish will also improve flow. It is difficult to give a clear answer without undergoing flow tests on a bench.
OK peeps, I had a long conversation with "Junior" this noon and he doesn't understand why baffles are set in that elbow. Removing them will not do any harm and a nice smooth finish will also improve flow. It is difficult to give a clear answer without undergoing flow tests on a bench.
I'm with Junior.
I think the baffles are there to stop suction noise. After all that's were the main suction that causes the main noise starts at.
Check out this aftermarket elbow, so nice. I didn't get a picture of the inside but I was told its smooth with no baffles. What you see is all I know. Anyone have any info as to who makes it and how much please post.
Thank you Zayed.
Good to know it's oem. One guy said in the link he doubts the whole setup makes power. Amg must have reshaped it and widened it out for just looks, not really... like our bodies, life starts with a breath. And the deeper we breathe the more oxygen the body carries to our brain and everywhere else. Engines need air to run, the more air the better they perform. Start with a restrictive elbow next to the mouth of the Throttle body and continue to the air box. And you have an engine that cannot take deep breaths. So to ME it does help and makes a difference.
i think; MB redesigned it to 1-piece with genuine carbon, for better flow & to transfer the heat out from the MAF housing..!
,,ZAYED,,
I made mine one piece as well.
I just welded the two together.
No need for middle gasket and when I need to change the electric maf sensor I just remove the two screws...
1987 190e 2.3-16 sold and missed, 1966 220s, 2016 GL550, 1999 C43, 2006 CLS 55
Just ordered mine for my 55 swap
First of all I just want to say that the products Jorge makes truly make a difference. I currently have his Airbox on my c43 with the 55 swap and it just makes the engine alive. Compared to the stock Airbox Jorge's custom Airbox truly lets the engine breathe. The car has tons more power on tap throughout the whole RPM band especially low end. I can only imagine what the elbow will do in conjunction with the Airbox. Highly recommend Jorge's products as they give true results. He is a great guy to work with and a true enthusiast.
I made mine one piece as well.
I just welded the two together.
No need for middle gasket and when I need to change the electric maf sensor I just remove the two screws...
That's going to be on the list of projects to do during the winter
I made some changes to these mods. They take so much time to do I have to give people 3 options to choose from. See original post if you're interested.
there's an old saying in american car building, "let it breathe and it will reward you in spades"
in the old days there were tons of small tuner companies who made a living just doing intake and exhaust mods on cars until the manufacturers picked up on how to exploit these same easy fixes for more power and efficiency.
there's an old saying in american car building, "let it breathe and it will reward you in spades"
in the old days there were tons of small tuner companies who made a living just doing intake and exhaust mods on cars until the manufacturers picked up on how to exploit these same easy fixes for more power and efficiency.
i'm super interested in this too
Great, just look at the first post and email me which option you want.
I think that once people try this on their cars with or without my air box they will be buying these for sure.
07-06-2016, 11:18 PM
