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Old 01-21-2017, 10:39 PM
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Wow was looking up specs for c43 9 speed tranny and just realized u have to tap in to fifth gear in the 1/4 mile cause 4th only goes to 100mph. I know it shifts quick but would of been nice if they stretched 4th out a bit more.
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That is a bummer. Same thing with my old A4. At the track I would have to shift into 4th about 120ft before the line. Killed my times/trap.

I kind of wish I had the 9speed at times but then I'm glad I don't since I pretty much drive the car in manual mode 95% of the time. But now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't matter since you probably don't need to go past 7th around town anyways.
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Wow was looking up specs for c43 9 speed tranny and just realized u have to tap in to fifth gear in the 1/4 mile cause 4th only goes to 100mph. I know it shifts quick but would of been nice if they stretched 4th out a bit more.
Hmm, I don't think a C43 is the kind of car I'd look to when trying to hit some seriously quick quarter mile times. I honestly wouldn't even look at a c63s if I was really serious at aggressive quarter mile times. There is a whole different class of car needed to break 10 seconds - which is where the big boys play.

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Hmm, I don't think a C43 is the kind of car I'd look to when trying to hit some seriously quick quarter mile times. I honestly wouldn't even look at a c63s if I was really serious at aggressive quarter mile times. There is a whole different class of car needed to break 10 seconds - which is where the big boys play.
I don't think it's about that at all. For me at least. I wouldn't ever take one of these to a road course track; I'd have a dedicated car for that. But to be able to take your car to the local 1/4 track on a $10 'Test & Tune' night is a lot of fun. You get to see what your car can do, see what it can do against a wide variety of cars, meet some cool like minded car guys (some douches as well), and you get to wring your car out 100% in a safe environment.

Who cares about the "big boys". They can put roll cages in, wear full fire suits, and put their lives on the line all they want in pursuit of 9s. I just want to have a bit of fun outside of the regular canyon cruises I like to take.
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I don't think it's about that at all. For me at least. I wouldn't ever take one of these to a road course track; I'd have a dedicated car for that. But to be able to take your car to the local 1/4 track on a $10 'Test & Tune' night is a lot of fun. You get to see what your car can do, see what it can do against a wide variety of cars, meet some cool like minded car guys (some douches as well), and you get to wring your car out 100% in a safe environment.

Who cares about the "big boys". They can put roll cages in, wear full fire suits, and put their lives on the line all they want in pursuit of 9s. I just want to have a bit of fun outside of the regular canyon cruises I like to take.
To each their own. If the goal is to test the limits of your car, then I fully support doing it in a safe and moderated environment. If the goal is to hit a number, which it is for a lot of people, then they're barking up the wrong tree with these cars.
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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
To each their own. If the goal is to test the limits of your car, then I fully support doing it in a safe and moderated environment. If the goal is to hit a number, which it is for a lot of people, then they're barking up the wrong tree with these cars.
What if they're trying to hit a number in relation to the model/platform they are racing. As to say, they are going for a c43 record? or they are trying to best a 340i/S4 record with similar mods?

I wish that I had access to a track that wasn't at 4300' above sea level. It would be cool to try to have, or at least compete for, a c450/43 1/4 mile record.
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What if they're trying to hit a number in relation to the model/platform they are racing. As to say, they are going for a c43 record? or they are trying to best a 340i/S4 record with similar mods?

I wish that I had access to a track that wasn't at 4300' above sea level. It would be cool to try to have, or at least compete for, a c450/43 1/4 mile record.
They could be going for a land speed record for all I care lol. I've seen a lot of guys dump a ton of cash in making their rides a little bit faster every time. I love to concept of taking a unassuming or old school car and making it a rocket. I personally dislike trying to squeeze every last drop out of something that rolled off the assembly line 6 months ago unless it is a show car. I don't think juice is worth the squeeze. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
Hmm, I don't think a C43 is the kind of car I'd look to when trying to hit some seriously quick quarter mile times. I honestly wouldn't even look at a c63s if I was really serious at aggressive quarter mile times. There is a whole different class of car needed to break 10 seconds - which is where the big boys play.
For most of us, this car is used as a daily driver. There is a balance. You give up drivability the higher up in hp you go. I think that these cars are great platforms to push in the quarter mile. Mods gain fairly good numbers and maintain alot of the drivability.

You would be insane to daily drive a 10 second car.
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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
They could be going for a land speed record for all I care lol. I've seen a lot of guys dump a ton of cash in making their rides a little bit faster every time. I love to concept of taking a unassuming or old school car and making it a rocket. I personally dislike trying to squeeze every last drop out of something that rolled off the assembly line 6 months ago unless it is a show car. I don't think juice is worth the squeeze. To each their own.
you're clearly not a car guy because that's what car guys do they squeeze every last drop they can get out of their car and for the c-43 I wouldn't call that a waste when you're getting a tune and increasing the car over a hundred horsepower and over 100 lbs of tourque for around $1,200 that's not a lot of cash either. Def worth the bang for the buck. What does it matter if it's one day old or 50 years old the car.
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For most of us, this car is used as a daily driver. There is a balance. You give up drivability the higher up in hp you go. I think that these cars are great platforms to push in the quarter mile. Mods gain fairly good numbers and maintain alot of the drivability.

You would be insane to daily drive a 10 second car.
lot of my friends drive their 10-second cars as daily drivers in the summertime a stock zo6 8 speed auto goes 10.8 in the 1/4 also my friend has a 10.0 viper drives everyday. And brother has a 10.3 1/4 car cts-v. That's the difference between new cars and old cars you have an old 10 second Camaro most likely it's not going to be an everyday driver where the new cars can be.
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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
Hmm, I don't think a C43 is the kind of car I'd look to when trying to hit some seriously quick quarter mile times. I honestly wouldn't even look at a c63s if I was really serious at aggressive quarter mile times. There is a whole different class of car needed to break 10 seconds - which is where the big boys play.
Oh and the C63 with tune downpipes and exhaust will break into the 10's no problem.
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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
Hmm, I don't think a C43 is the kind of car I'd look to when trying to hit some seriously quick quarter mile times. I honestly wouldn't even look at a c63s if I was really serious at aggressive quarter mile times. There is a whole different class of car needed to break 10 seconds - which is where the big boys play.
Oh and the C63 with tune downpipes and exhaust will break into the 10's no problem.
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Originally Posted by sean1.8t
What if they're trying to hit a number in relation to the model/platform they are racing. As to say, they are going for a c43 record? or they are trying to best a 340i/S4 record with similar mods?

I wish that I had access to a track that wasn't at 4300' above sea level. It would be cool to try to have, or at least compete for, a c450/43 1/4 mile record.
I completely agree most of us know what our cars are capable of before we buy them but why wouldn't you get a tune for the C43 and get the performance of a C63. I get my C43 coupe hopefully the end of Feb once I get enough miles on it I'll definitely be bringing it down to my track which is about 650 feet above sea level so not to bad. See what numbers I can get stock and then bring it back after the tune.
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you're clearly not a car guy because that's what car guys do they squeeze every last drop they can get out of their car and for the c-43 I wouldn't call that a waste when you're getting a tune and increasing the car over a hundred horsepower and over 100 lbs of tourque for around $1,200 that's not a lot of cash either. Def worth the bang for the buck. What does it matter if it's one day old or 50 years old the car.
Sure - I'm not a car guy because we have a difference in opinion. Good luck with that bud.

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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
Sure - I'm not a car guy because we have a difference in opinion. Good luck with that bud.
You should be driving a c300.

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I completely agree most of us know what our cars are capable of before we buy them but why wouldn't you get a tune for the C43 and get the performance of a C63. I get my C43 coupe hopefully the end of Feb once I get enough miles on it I'll definitely be bringing it down to my track which is about 650 feet above sea level so not to bad. See what numbers I can get stock and then bring it back after the tune.
Damn I'm jelly. It's cool to be in on modding this platform (and majorly sucks as well haha) so early. You could literally have a record for a car/motor that people all around the world would know and want to challenge

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Originally Posted by 5ilver-5urfer
Sure - I'm not a car guy because we have a difference in opinion. Good luck with that bud.
well you're probably the only one with that opinion because any one that is really in to cars usually is going to get all they can out of there car weither it's a civic or a lambo if u have the cash ur going to modify it.
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well you're probably the only one with that opinion because any one that is really in to cars usually is going to get all they can out of there car weither it's a civic or a lambo if u have the cash ur going to modify it.
I lol'ed reading this. Breathe buddy - if it makes you feel better, you win
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I lol'ed reading this. Breathe buddy - if it makes you feel better, you win
How long do you smell your *****s before you flush?
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How long do you smell your *****s before you flush?
LOL You're so mad. It's okay man - don't be so angry. Stay classy - I'm out before you burst a blood vessel.
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LOL You're so mad. It's okay man - don't be so angry. Stay classy - I'm out before you burst a blood vessel.
Hahahahaha. I do agree with Silver Surfer, not everyone who lives and breathes car wants to mod their car. Someone people love to keep theirs bone stock.
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Hahahahaha. I do agree with Silver Surfer, not everyone who lives and breathes car wants to mod their car. Someone people love to keep theirs bone stock.
Especially the folks into restoring classic rides. There's a whole subculture dedicated to this that's been around a long time. There are a ton of very serious car guys that are into bone stock or fabricating and rebuilding to replicate stock on a restoration job. Saying that you gotta be into modding to be a car guy is just plain ignant IMO
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Especially the folks into restoring classic rides. There's a whole subculture dedicated to this that's been around a long time. There are a ton of very serious car guys that are into bone stock or fabricating and rebuilding to replicate stock on a restoration job. Saying that you gotta be into modding to be a car guy is just plain ignant IMO
Silver surfers orignal post was saying he thought it was stupid to modify a brand new car. That it doesn't make sense only if it's a older car. That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Especially the folks into restoring classic rides. There's a whole subculture dedicated to this that's been around a long time. There are a ton of very serious car guys that are into bone stock or fabricating and rebuilding to replicate stock on a restoration job. Saying that you gotta be into modding to be a car guy is just plain ignant IMO
That's the point I'm trying to make. Let people do what they want and if you are a genuine enthusiast of the automobile, be it love a stock hybrid that gets 60mpg or a guy that takes his brand new z06 and modifies it to run 8s, let them do what they want and support them. Show camaraderie, help inspire the culture in a positive way.

Instead of what 5ilver-5urfer is doing which is looking down on someone because one doesn't agree with the execution.


That's the kind of person that makes fun of some 16 year old kid that buys an exhaust for his 20 year old civic when that's all the person knows and can afford. That's a sad person.
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Back to OP - I like the 7 speed in my current c63s.

Although I have yet to try the new 9 speed. I believe the 7 speed is sufficient.

Do you think a TCU tune help the 9 speed?
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Back to OP - I like the 7 speed in my current c63s.

Although I have yet to try the new 9 speed. I believe the 7 speed is sufficient.

Do you think a TCU tune help the 9 speed?
A TCU tune would have the capability to change things like change the shift points under various loads and drive settings. Or possibly speed the shifting aggressiveness.

It wouldn't have the capability to change gearing or raise the rev limiter of the motor.


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