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02-23-2015, 06:12 PM
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02-23-2015, 06:49 PM
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02-23-2015, 06:53 PM
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Here are some summaries and comparisons to the M3:
Car and Driver Review:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
"A thick-rimmed steering wheel swings a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports that are attached to an AMG-exclusive front suspension. (The Michelins are fitted out back, too, of course.) Assist effort changes depending on which of the four driving modes are selected. In any mode, the steering has direct feedback and reliably reports the distress of the Mercedes-spec rubber—a distinct advantage over the M3.
Front-end grip is strong, even on track. The AMG’s front stance is wider than the standard C-class, and while the rear suspension retains the C-class architecture, it’s tuned specifically for the 63. (The rear end also features a limited-slip differential.) A three-mode electronically controlled suspension varies the damping in degrees that range from firm to harsh. But even on the 19-inch wheels that come on the S version, the ride is better than that of the old C63."
"On the outside, the AMG version has wider front fenders with subtle flaring and a menacing gape below the front bumper, yet it can’t match the aggressive look of the old C63 and its strakes, slats, and flares. But despite the old car’s meaner countenance, the new iteration is definitely angrier. Indeed, if the 2015 C63 attended any anger-management sessions, it only went to one, stayed for perhaps five minutes, threw a chair through the window, and stormed out. This makes us very happy."
Motor Authority:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-s-first-drive
On Track
"When it comes down to it, a performance sedan of the Mercedes-AMG C63’s caliber needs to be able to deliver on track; the BMW M3 and M4 duo certainly do, and the Cadillac ATS-V looks like it might just be the overdog. Audi’s S4 may do some battle with the base C63 (non-S-model), but it doesn’t really have a contender without an RS 4.
Fortunately for AMG, the C63 S delivers with an abundance of nearly everything. Power? Check. Rear-drive balance? Double check. Surprisingly good steering? We’re headed toward plaid.
Comparing the C63 S to its nearest natural competitor, the BMW M3, is perhaps one of the most enlightening revelations for the brand-agnostic performance enthusiast: where once the BMW would have had the superior ride quality, steering feel, and sport seats, the pendulum has swung completely to Mercedes-AMG’s side.
Where the BMW feels leaden and lifeless (read: anything below about 100 mph), the C63 S feels lithe and limber. Above 100 mph, both cars are a joy to drive, but the BMW still feels more like a surgeon’s laser scalpel, while the C63 S is a back-alley switchblade—in hoonistic respects, at least."
Car and Driver Review:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
"A thick-rimmed steering wheel swings a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports that are attached to an AMG-exclusive front suspension. (The Michelins are fitted out back, too, of course.) Assist effort changes depending on which of the four driving modes are selected. In any mode, the steering has direct feedback and reliably reports the distress of the Mercedes-spec rubber—a distinct advantage over the M3.
Front-end grip is strong, even on track. The AMG’s front stance is wider than the standard C-class, and while the rear suspension retains the C-class architecture, it’s tuned specifically for the 63. (The rear end also features a limited-slip differential.) A three-mode electronically controlled suspension varies the damping in degrees that range from firm to harsh. But even on the 19-inch wheels that come on the S version, the ride is better than that of the old C63."
"On the outside, the AMG version has wider front fenders with subtle flaring and a menacing gape below the front bumper, yet it can’t match the aggressive look of the old C63 and its strakes, slats, and flares. But despite the old car’s meaner countenance, the new iteration is definitely angrier. Indeed, if the 2015 C63 attended any anger-management sessions, it only went to one, stayed for perhaps five minutes, threw a chair through the window, and stormed out. This makes us very happy."
Motor Authority:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-s-first-drive
On Track
"When it comes down to it, a performance sedan of the Mercedes-AMG C63’s caliber needs to be able to deliver on track; the BMW M3 and M4 duo certainly do, and the Cadillac ATS-V looks like it might just be the overdog. Audi’s S4 may do some battle with the base C63 (non-S-model), but it doesn’t really have a contender without an RS 4.
Fortunately for AMG, the C63 S delivers with an abundance of nearly everything. Power? Check. Rear-drive balance? Double check. Surprisingly good steering? We’re headed toward plaid.
Comparing the C63 S to its nearest natural competitor, the BMW M3, is perhaps one of the most enlightening revelations for the brand-agnostic performance enthusiast: where once the BMW would have had the superior ride quality, steering feel, and sport seats, the pendulum has swung completely to Mercedes-AMG’s side.
Where the BMW feels leaden and lifeless (read: anything below about 100 mph), the C63 S feels lithe and limber. Above 100 mph, both cars are a joy to drive, but the BMW still feels more like a surgeon’s laser scalpel, while the C63 S is a back-alley switchblade—in hoonistic respects, at least."
02-23-2015, 06:54 PM
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And a written review by Chris Harris:
https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...3-super-saloon
On power:
"The C63 S is monstrously potent from low revs – there’s torque limiting in the first three gears, but even then on a dry surface the car wants to break traction under full power.
And it keeps revving too. The torque management gives the sensation of thrust building through the rev-range, and the noise is so damn good you want to take it out between 6-7000rpm. Those last normally aspirated 507 edition cars were sensational, but this is a better engine. And it makes the C63 a much faster car.
It offers vast performance and the way it keeps pulling above 120mph makes me suspect that it’ll win the Autobahn outside lane competition against the other small German hotshots."
Regarding the revised MCT transmission:
"Well they’ve worked hard on it, and the result is a much sharper, more intuitive box of tricks. It also has a higher torque rating than the Getrag DCT, so you get 516 lb ft here in the S model, where the swoopy coupe makes do with ‘just’ 479lb ft. You can choose different shift-speeds, or just use the paddles. There’s a slight delay to shifts even in the fastest mode, but I just didn’t have a problem with it. Combined with that mighty engine it makes for a stunning road-car powertrain. In race mode, with the exhaust set to ‘noisy’ it is positively flatulent."
On a forthcoming comparison:
"And for those who think the M3’s contrived sound signature is too much to bear, this might well be the car for you. I wouldn’t want to call that comparison until I’d done a comprehensive back-to-back test. Either way, they’re both much more talented than any of the immediate competition."
https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/drive...3-super-saloon
On power:
"The C63 S is monstrously potent from low revs – there’s torque limiting in the first three gears, but even then on a dry surface the car wants to break traction under full power.
And it keeps revving too. The torque management gives the sensation of thrust building through the rev-range, and the noise is so damn good you want to take it out between 6-7000rpm. Those last normally aspirated 507 edition cars were sensational, but this is a better engine. And it makes the C63 a much faster car.
It offers vast performance and the way it keeps pulling above 120mph makes me suspect that it’ll win the Autobahn outside lane competition against the other small German hotshots."
Regarding the revised MCT transmission:
"Well they’ve worked hard on it, and the result is a much sharper, more intuitive box of tricks. It also has a higher torque rating than the Getrag DCT, so you get 516 lb ft here in the S model, where the swoopy coupe makes do with ‘just’ 479lb ft. You can choose different shift-speeds, or just use the paddles. There’s a slight delay to shifts even in the fastest mode, but I just didn’t have a problem with it. Combined with that mighty engine it makes for a stunning road-car powertrain. In race mode, with the exhaust set to ‘noisy’ it is positively flatulent."
On a forthcoming comparison:
"And for those who think the M3’s contrived sound signature is too much to bear, this might well be the car for you. I wouldn’t want to call that comparison until I’d done a comprehensive back-to-back test. Either way, they’re both much more talented than any of the immediate competition."
02-23-2015, 07:08 PM
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02-23-2015, 07:28 PM
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I've gone through all of them. I NEED MORE.
Every single one says over all its a better car than the last C63 and all of them chose it over the M3 except for Chris Harris (he loves the car though) because he is undecided.
Edit: JP where you at?????
Every single one says over all its a better car than the last C63 and all of them chose it over the M3 except for Chris Harris (he loves the car though) because he is undecided.
Edit: JP where you at?????
02-23-2015, 07:31 PM
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02-23-2015, 07:34 PM
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Damn I'm in quite the conundrum.
I love my W204 C63 but the W205 looks to be phenomenal.
I suppose I'll keep the W204 and then get the W205 in a year from now. Or will the fuel savings alone be worth the switch? Haha.
I love my W204 C63 but the W205 looks to be phenomenal.
I suppose I'll keep the W204 and then get the W205 in a year from now. Or will the fuel savings alone be worth the switch? Haha.
02-23-2015, 07:45 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
This car is gunna be bananas
Wait... Wait till renntech et al gets there dirty little hands in the ecu
Bananas
Wait... Wait till renntech et al gets there dirty little hands in the ecu
Bananas
02-23-2015, 07:48 PM
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Lower the car, wider wheels, aero kit, and all the engine goodies are going to make this car so great.
02-23-2015, 07:51 PM
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Wait a year till all the w205 problems are sorted out... Of which there are quite a few... The amgs will likely have some early production bugs too
02-23-2015, 08:45 PM
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02-23-2015, 09:04 PM
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Probably exactly what I'll do. I'll continue to enjoy the W204 while I live vicariously through the early adopters.
Looking forward to the reviews of actual owners now.
Someone over on the M3 thread criticized the W205 S for having an electronically-controlled differential (which the reviews praised as brilliant).
He failed to realize that the M3 too has an electronically-controlled differential (the active diff.) and that the C63 comes standard with a mechanical diff.
I don't know why there are those that grasp at straws trying to knock a car. It's pretty easy to admit that both the M3 and C63 are damn good.
Looking forward to the reviews of actual owners now.
Someone over on the M3 thread criticized the W205 S for having an electronically-controlled differential (which the reviews praised as brilliant).
He failed to realize that the M3 too has an electronically-controlled differential (the active diff.) and that the C63 comes standard with a mechanical diff.
I don't know why there are those that grasp at straws trying to knock a car. It's pretty easy to admit that both the M3 and C63 are damn good.
02-23-2015, 09:06 PM
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Probably exactly what I'll do. I'll continue to enjoy the W204 while I live vicariously through the early adopters.
Looking forward to the reviews of actual owners now.
Someone over on the M3 thread criticized the W205 S for having an electronically-controlled differential (which the reviews praised as brilliant).
He failed to realize that the M3 too has an electronically-controlled differential (the active diff.) and that the C63 comes standard with a mechanical diff.
I don't know why there are those that grasp at straws trying to knock a car. It's pretty easy to admit that both the M3 and C63 are damn good.
Looking forward to the reviews of actual owners now.
Someone over on the M3 thread criticized the W205 S for having an electronically-controlled differential (which the reviews praised as brilliant).
He failed to realize that the M3 too has an electronically-controlled differential (the active diff.) and that the C63 comes standard with a mechanical diff.
I don't know why there are those that grasp at straws trying to knock a car. It's pretty easy to admit that both the M3 and C63 are damn good.
