Advantages of Charcoal removal.
12-21-2010, 10:58 PM
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Advantages of Charcoal removal.
I was wondering if those that know, can enlighten those that don't know about the advantages of Charcoal delete from our cars. Thanks in advance!
12-21-2010, 11:21 PM
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12-22-2010, 01:44 AM
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Helps the car sound better too when you add the ROW's and the charcoal delete.
Just take them out when you drive so that you have a more free flowing intake system, then install them real quick when you park and turn your car off so that you can comply with emissions. jk
Just take them out when you drive so that you have a more free flowing intake system, then install them real quick when you park and turn your car off so that you can comply with emissions. jk
12-23-2010, 12:03 PM
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My C63 is bone stock and I noticed ZERO gains doing this. I got a CEL 3 times. I got sick of resetting the ECU and reinstalled them. Maybe this works well for you guys that have tunes?
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12-24-2010, 11:01 AM
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That's because the Rest Of the World doesn't have to comply with all of the ridiculous EPA/DOT emissions regs that we have in our beauracratic nightmare country. The charcoals are there to prevent some sort of gases leaking out of the engine when the car is parked and not even running. The Mercedes engineers just laugh at how silly this is. There are probably more toxic fumes coming from all the adhesives used in the interior, but the government hasn't figured out a way to put filters over the seats and the dash yet and still let us drive the cars. One of the reasons I love the C63 is that it's a giant middle finger in the face of all the upcoming green/environmental/electric/hybrid future that is being forced on us by the regulatory agencies. Taking out the charcoals is just the icing on the cake of my big "F..You" to the government.
12-24-2010, 11:14 AM
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12-24-2010, 12:41 PM
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One of the reasons I love the C63 is that it's a giant middle finger in the face of all the upcoming green/environmental/electric/hybrid future that is being forced on us by the regulatory agencies. Taking out the charcoals is just the icing on the cake of my big "F..You" to the government.
12-24-2010, 03:27 PM
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That's because the Rest Of the World doesn't have to comply with all of the ridiculous EPA/DOT emissions regs that we have in our beauracratic nightmare country. The charcoals are there to prevent some sort of gases leaking out of the engine when the car is parked and not even running. The Mercedes engineers just laugh at how silly this is. There are probably more toxic fumes coming from all the adhesives used in the interior, but the government hasn't figured out a way to put filters over the seats and the dash yet and still let us drive the cars. One of the reasons I love the C63 is that it's a giant middle finger in the face of all the upcoming green/environmental/electric/hybrid future that is being forced on us by the regulatory agencies. Taking out the charcoals is just the icing on the cake of my big "F..You" to the government.
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That's because the Rest Of the World doesn't have to comply with all of the ridiculous EPA/DOT emissions regs that we have in our beauracratic nightmare country. The charcoals are there to prevent some sort of gases leaking out of the engine when the car is parked and not even running. The Mercedes engineers just laugh at how silly this is. There are probably more toxic fumes coming from all the adhesives used in the interior, but the government hasn't figured out a way to put filters over the seats and the dash yet and still let us drive the cars. One of the reasons I love the C63 is that it's a giant middle finger in the face of all the upcoming green/environmental/electric/hybrid future that is being forced on us by the regulatory agencies. Taking out the charcoals is just the icing on the cake of my big "F..You" to the government.
09-26-2011, 03:25 PM
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They are the airbox tops that are installed on M156's in the "Rest Of the World. They don't have the black lattices that hold the charcoals in place. And they have a larger air inlet opening.
I can't remember where to buy them, but if you search around on this forum there is a thread that provides the website to find them at.
I can't remember where to buy them, but if you search around on this forum there is a thread that provides the website to find them at.
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09-26-2011, 06:21 PM
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I have only tried the stock AMG paper filters that actually say "AMG" on the orange rubber borders, the Mann paper filters that are also basically OEM paper filters (my dealer's shop foreman said they are the same as the ones that say "AMG" on them, as they look pretty close to the same), and the BMC's.
The BMC's did not leave any oil residue on the MAF's, but I think they affect low-speed throttle response. But, when you mash the throttle with them as a compliment to ROW's the power up top feels stronger. Also, the BMC's are easier to install than the OEM paper filters because the borders of the BMC's are more sturdy and they sit in the filter seat better so it's easier to make sure the airbox tops don't improperly pinch or push down the borders of the filters.
I will try the AFE dry filters next. That would be my choice.
Edit: The reason I will choose the AFE dry filters over the K&N's is because I don't want to risk putting in K&N's that may be a little over-oiled. But, for all I know, K&N's -- like BMC's -- do not leave any oil residue on the MAF's. And even though I like the extra power that I think the BMC's help the engine make, I don't really like the part throttle response that they affect.
The BMC's did not leave any oil residue on the MAF's, but I think they affect low-speed throttle response. But, when you mash the throttle with them as a compliment to ROW's the power up top feels stronger. Also, the BMC's are easier to install than the OEM paper filters because the borders of the BMC's are more sturdy and they sit in the filter seat better so it's easier to make sure the airbox tops don't improperly pinch or push down the borders of the filters.
I will try the AFE dry filters next. That would be my choice.
Edit: The reason I will choose the AFE dry filters over the K&N's is because I don't want to risk putting in K&N's that may be a little over-oiled. But, for all I know, K&N's -- like BMC's -- do not leave any oil residue on the MAF's. And even though I like the extra power that I think the BMC's help the engine make, I don't really like the part throttle response that they affect.
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09-27-2011, 12:39 PM
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I have only tried the stock AMG paper filters that actually say "AMG" on the orange rubber borders, the Mann paper filters that are also basically OEM paper filters (my dealer's shop foreman said they are the same as the ones that say "AMG" on them, as they look pretty close to the same), and the BMC's.
The BMC's did not leave any oil residue on the MAF's, but I think they affect low-speed throttle response. But, when you mash the throttle with them as a compliment to ROW's the power up top feels stronger. Also, the BMC's are easier to install than the OEM paper filters because the borders of the BMC's are more sturdy and they sit in the filter seat better so it's easier to make sure the airbox tops don't improperly pinch or push down the borders of the filters.
I will try the AFE dry filters next. That would be my choice.
Edit: The reason I will choose the AFE dry filters over the K&N's is because I don't want to risk putting in K&N's that may be a little over-oiled. But, for all I know, K&N's -- like BMC's -- do not leave any oil residue on the MAF's. And even though I like the extra power that I think the BMC's help the engine make, I don't really like the part throttle response that they affect.
The BMC's did not leave any oil residue on the MAF's, but I think they affect low-speed throttle response. But, when you mash the throttle with them as a compliment to ROW's the power up top feels stronger. Also, the BMC's are easier to install than the OEM paper filters because the borders of the BMC's are more sturdy and they sit in the filter seat better so it's easier to make sure the airbox tops don't improperly pinch or push down the borders of the filters.
I will try the AFE dry filters next. That would be my choice.
Edit: The reason I will choose the AFE dry filters over the K&N's is because I don't want to risk putting in K&N's that may be a little over-oiled. But, for all I know, K&N's -- like BMC's -- do not leave any oil residue on the MAF's. And even though I like the extra power that I think the BMC's help the engine make, I don't really like the part throttle response that they affect.
09-27-2011, 02:37 PM
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The Mann filters look almost identical to the filters that come in our cars, but the rubber borders are slightly smaller, same color though. They are considered direct OEM replacements. They're only like $15. But, I did notice when I opened my air boxes last time to clean for sand that one of the corners of the Mann filters had torn, so that was a bummer.
