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Old 04-08-2011, 07:54 AM
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Arrow Eurocharged Power Pulley 63 AMG

Has anybody ordered this Power pulley from this provider? Is it any diffrent from the one that Evosport has?. Seems like the same material. I wonder if anybody tested them on a dyno and found any gains.
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I'm sure Jerry or someone else from Eurocharged can chime in and provide some info and possible dyno charts.
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Originally Posted by jacob502
Has anybody ordered this Power pulley from this provider? Is it any diffrent from the one that Evosport has?. Seems like the same material. I wonder if anybody tested them on a dyno and found any gains.

Save your money... or put it somewhere else.
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Save your money... or put it somewhere else.
ineresting

why?
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For a pully and the labor costs, the HP gains are not worth it for it's value. You rather go with a tune or save up for LT Headers.
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what if you have LT and a tune?
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I'm the guys at EC have before/after runs?
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I'm the guys at EC have before/after runs?
Huh???
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Huh???
Sounds like one of those gator-catcher guys talking...
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Originally Posted by Sincity
Huh???
OP asked "I wonder if anybody tested them on a dyno and found any gains." and I was trying to say that the people selling them should have before/after dyno runs.
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Originally Posted by BO Knows
For a pully and the labor costs, the HP gains are not worth it for it's value. You rather go with a tune or save up for LT Headers.
Cost is not an issue. Are the gains real?
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As noted on this thread, pulley does give a little gain:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...-2010-c63.html

Here is also some good reading materials:
http://www.abedinmotorsports.com/faq.htm
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Originally Posted by bluejae
what if you have LT and a tune?
+1...I'd like to know if the gain is noticeable for people with these mods already.
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I don't think Mike or Dads run it. Ask yourself why. From my understanding the stock one is better.
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Originally Posted by propain
Save your money... or put it somewhere else.
+1 The hassle is not worth the possible gains.

Originally Posted by jacob502
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why?
Although some people have seen some gains with the pulley on a C63, I have not (personally) been able to duplicate such gains on at least two different models on two different dynos. In fact, a couple of people experienced some electrical problems soon after the pulley install, which later was attributed to a bad alternator. Please research the pulley mod very carefully before using it on an SL63
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+1 The hassle is not worth the possible gains.



Although some people have seen some gains with the pulley on a C63, I have not (personally) been able to duplicate such gains on at least two different models on two different dynos. In fact, a couple of people experienced some electrical problems soon after the pulley install, which later was attributed to a bad alternator. Please research the pulley mod very carefully before using it on an SL63
Thanks for the heads up. I also heard that it damages the crank. I was hoping that the sponsor from Eurocharged would answer. Looks like he got nothing to add
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Thanks for the heads up. I also heard that it damages the crank. I was hoping that the sponsor from Eurocharged would answer. Looks like he got nothing to add
If it has a chance of being defective, why are they still sold?
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If it has a chance of being defective, why are they still sold?

Thats the one thousand dollar question. or wait, no, the 799 dollar question
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Edited:

Both are underdriven...

The Eurocharged unit is a great design, however as with ALL pulley installs... PLEASE BE SURE TO TAKE IT TO A BENZ SPECIALIST THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY HELL THEY ARE DOING! Any great part can be installed by an idiot and function improperly ....

Hope that helps,
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
There is a difference ... the evosport is underdriven, the Eurocharged is stock diameter.

At AMS we highly recommend only using stock diameter crank pulleys as it will not damage or decrease the life of the accessories. The stock 63 pulley is already under-driven from the factory, so to under-drive it even more is not a wise decision (as mentioned by alternator problems). The 63 pulley is by far the smallest diameter pulley benz has ever done and MB did this to improve the revving characteristics & top end power. In many ways they took a page out of the aftermarket book and applied it to the car directly from the factory.

The Eurocharged unit is a good design, however as with ALL pulley installs... PLEASE BE SURE TO TAKE IT TO A BENZ SPECIALIST THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY HELL THEY ARE DOING! Any great part can be installed by an idiot and function improperly ....

Hope that helps,
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Thanks for the post. Do you know the weight difference between stock and the EC?
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but, some ppl claim that they gained more power and they past 5k miles with 0 problems, so now what do we belive ?
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Both pulleys are roughly in the 4.x lb range, stock pulleys are usualy 6.3-7.0 lbs depending. Ours are 2.8 lbs (6.3 pulley not released yet).

Hope that helps,
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Originally Posted by AMS Performance
The stock 63 pulley is already under-driven from the factory
While I agree with much of your post, AMS, I disagree with this part (from a technical standpoint). AMG's engineers designed the M156 crank pulley to be a certain size, which by itself doesn't mean much, but is useful to know in relation to the ratio of pulley size vs. the sizes of the various accessory pullies. The goal presumably to reach the optimal rpm ranges of the accessories, without over or underdriving them outside of their manufacturer-specified operating ranges.

As such, it isn't really possible to say something is "underdriven from the factory" - the factory drive ratio is the baseline from which to compare alternative solutions' merits. IMHO.
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but, some ppl claim that they gained more power and they past 5k miles with 0 problems, so now what do we belive ?
Some have had absolutely zero problems and others have had alternators go bad and/or other electrical problems (other 63 models). You make the decision whether the risk is worth the gain
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Correction: Post has been edited.... both are underdriven.

The only real difference I guess is that eurocharged pulley will ship within a couple of days ... Evo-sport may take significantly longer

Hope that helps,
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