Ghetto2315

I've driven the the C63 Coupe with the P31 Package and one with out it, back to back, to back, to back. To get it, it is $75 more a month on a 36-month lease. Doesn't seem much, I know, but $75 is $75.

Pros of having the P31 is the Delimitation of the Top Speed Limiter to 177-MPH. Never going to go past 130-MPH, so I could care less about that. Carbon Fiber Rear Trunk Spoiler is a nice touch, but I can live with out it. Same thing with the Red Brake Calipers. The 30 additional HP is nice, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Any of you guys in the same predicament as I am? I don't know what to do...

until the end

Im not in the same position but go with p31

Djovovic63

I m going to apologize in advance, but I will call you stingy.

enochroot

I'd say yes, but that's only because I have a C63 with P31 coming next week!

What's another $75 when you are spending $1000 - $1200 a month on a lease

No brainier for me! though others will have their own opinions.

Choy

It is nice to have but not needed for everyday driving unless you don't care about losing your license. Of course unless you live near the Ring or Autobahn.

That is the same question I am asking. How much is too much, in HP? Is a 450 hp not enough for my everyday driving? Will I exceed 155mph here in the states? Will I pose some danger to other driver when I drive in excess of 155 mph?

The bottom line, it is a question of NEED and WANT. And most of the time, it is the WANT the wins.

_AMG_

Your buying an $80,000+ AMG then $75 extra a month wouldn't hurt you.

King335i

If this helps at all I've been calling around to all the MB dealers in my state looking for a C63 Coupe with the P31 package, every single dealer says that there is only 1 car with P31 on a boat to the states right now. While I can't believe that is true, it should be noted that there will be lots of C63 coupes landing on our shores very shortly that are non-P31 cars. So if you're interested in getting your coupe right away a non-P31 car might be your only option.

**On a side note, I told one dealer that I was interested in the two-tone designo red/black interior and he proceeded to tell me that he was 100% certain that this car will only come with a black interior...fail. I hate knowing more about a company's products than an employee of said company.

enochroot

It's already too much power on the tiny bicycle tires it comes with.
Sure P31 adds 30HP, but it also adds 3 inches to your *****.

If you are anything like me, if you don't do it, you will probably always think **** I should have just spent the extra $75 bucks a month.
Why is my ***** so small.

Only you can decide.

King335i

LOL, well aside from the ***** measurement aspect of it, it would be cool to get some of the engine internals from the SLS, and it will probably help the (AMG's notoriously poor) resale value. Oh, if you do get it though, you can give yourself a pornstar name like Rock Johnson, or Biggs Dickhardt.

VaclavSV

Get P31! I have my 2012 with it, and it is noticeably louder than with out it. In Canada we get better front rotors as well which is nice, and it comes with LSD, but I know in other countries that is a stand alone option. In Canada the Performance package was around $6000 as an option. +$75/month on a 3 year lease you are looking at an extra $2500... seems pretty reasonable for the extras!

SonnyakaPig

If you can afford it, I say go for it. It's a really cool package.

BK63amg

I'm not sure if it's worth it....depends on what your monthly note is going to be and how much that $75 increases your bottom line. Personally, I love the P31 features but the $6K cost of admission is incredibly inflated IMO. You'll also probably never really use that extra power anyways...it's really just about paying for the ability to say you have it.

And don't we all love having things just to say we have them sometimes?

SonnyakaPig

Hmm... forged pistons, rods, and crank (same ones used in the SLS), CF spoiler, some alcantara on the steering wheel, light-weight drilled/slotted rotors for the fronts, painted brake calipers, and a factory warranted tune...

What do you think all of these features would cost if you bought them in the aftermarket?

MNL ICE

Dont get it if your not/rarely gonna use those extra HP.....it will just be a "bragging rights" !!! Thats just me

jakio

Go for it.

BK63amg

Every part you mentioned can be had in the aftermarket for significantly less with performance and quality equivalent to, if not better than OEM MB....(ecu tune, rotors, alcantara, cf spoiler, etc) with the exception of the SLS internals...although Dad's did purchase the cams...

The painted rotors are a DIY.

The SLS internals are obviously the pricey components but to what end? When will you ever experience the true benefits of these stronger and lighter internals? When pushing the car to it's absolute limit on the track? Perhaps...but most of us are not lucky or talented enough to truly exploit this cars full potential. And for those who can, I'd be interested to know just how these SLS internals translate in terms of track performance...but for daily use, the performance increase will probably be imperceptible at worst, marginal at best.

The P31 package adds a roughly 10% premium to the base price of a C63 sedan...but does it make the car 10% better? IMO, it doesn't....I think it's more marketing than anything else.

Sheep

I won't do it half-***'ed. It's the best or nothing after all.

Sheep

BK63amg

In this game you've got to pay to play...no doubt about it!

SonnyakaPig

Of course the P31 option is a marketing tactic for MB. All options are in furtherance of marketing.

Whether the extra performance that the package delivers can be exploited by the average purchaser is not really relevant to the question of wheather the package is "incredibly inflated" as you previously stated. The average C63 owner will never exploit anywhere near the standard C63's full performance potential.

My response to your initial post was an attempt to list the features of the P31 package to show that when you calculate the cost of the individual parts the total cost will show that the option is not "incredibly inflated."

It can certainly be argued that the package is not worth it to a given purchaser, because one's opinion of the package is subjective. But, you were speaking of cost. And when you total the cost of the parts, the value is reasonable.

SLS internals are still SLS internals (forged parts that are very durable) and add an element of security to the overall durability of the engine. Do they provide more power? I have always maintained that they most likely do not. But, you cannot dispute the benefits of a forged bottom end.

What does the fact that someone purchased MB cams have anything to do with my original post? Btw, one can purchase forged internals in the aftermarket.

Light-weight rotors are expensive in the aftermarket (especially the fronts)... I have Evosport rotors for all four corners and I know what they cost. Are the MB rotors in the P31 package better? I don't know. Maybe not, but that's not what I commented about. To remind you, I was commenting about value. And they certainly are worth their cost.

You think painting brake calipers to a MB-level finish is a DIY? Maybe for someone with painting experience. To borrow a quote from you: "most of us are not lucky or talented enough to..." know how to paint the calipers to an OEM level of quality. So, assuming someone wants to paint their calipers, it's going to cost them a few hundred dollars.

How much do you think it costs to have alcantara stiched onto your steering wheel? Probably around a few hundred dollars. Being conservative here. The alcantara is cheap but labor isn't.

CF spoiler... probably few hundred dollars.

What about a factory tune? Does that not have value. Aftermarket tunes range from $600-$2,000. And it comes with a warranty. Is piece of mind not worth anything?

_AMG_

^^^
Very well said brotha!

BK63amg

What i said is that in my opinion, I did not think the P31 was worth the $6K MB arging - not based n the value of the parts, but what I personally believe he cost-benefit analysis to be. I do not believe it increases the performance envelope of a non P31 by a large enough margin to warrant the cost. It is because of this that it is my personal opinion that the package price is inflated - if I presented that opinion as an absolute fact, then that's my mistake but it wasn't my intention...I am speaking in purely subjective terms when I say that the P31 is not worth the money...as in my perceived value of the package not aligning with what I perceive to be the benefits.

My point of saying that the same or similar parts could be had aftermarket was that, again, in my opinion, similar performance could be had for significantly less than $6K.

BK63amg

With that said, the P31 is a great turnkey package for buyers who desire these upgrades from the factory with a warranty to boot. I recognize that for many people, that peace of mind alone is enough to warrant the cost. It makes complete sense to me - I just like to options the aftermarket provides!

SonnyakaPig

Thanks.

SonnyakaPig

I like the aftermarket too. Some nice stuff for our cars.

CK17

If the extra $75 is a worry then I would definitely suggest you don't get the performance package. Gas and tires are going to run you a bit of coin with this car as it is and there are always incidentals. I've got the P31 ordered on mine because its what I wanted ( didn't even have to hesitate when deciding) but if you're hesitant and doubt you'll need it then don't bother with it. Also like King335i said there is a limited number of the P31 packages available at this time and if you don't feel like waiting until January or later for the car then its just another reason to forgo the P31