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Old 11-13-2011, 04:50 PM
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Shortly after the pic below was taken, I followed this guy to a stretch of road on a private property which is designated for roll on racing and we did a few pulls.

Edited to add: I think this was the V8 version because it seemed pretty even. The V10's have single exhaust pipes on each side, right?

He seemed to get the jump each time (ran without honks) and I could stop his pull when I'd hit it so we were pretty even. I thought it was the V10 at first because of the wheels he had on it. Anybody else run an R8?


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Perhaps he wasn't flooring it? The Audi R8 does 0-60 in about 3.9 i believe so im not sure.
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Perhaps he wasn't flooring it? The Audi R8 does 0-60 in about 3.9 i believe so im not sure.
AWD helps that #. From a roll the R8 V8s are pretty slow. I almost bought one 18 months ago, was disappointed when I drove it. It felt slower than my chipped C63.
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AWD helps that #. From a roll the R8 V8s are pretty slow. I almost bought one 18 months ago, was disappointed when I drove it. It felt slower than my chipped C63.

Yeah, it was super hard to tell who had the faster car. He kept getting the jump but I seemed to be able to stop his pull. Now I see that the V8 R8 traps at 110-113+, so I'm thinking I want to dyno my C63 and make sure it is making the power it should be. It feels pretty quick but if my C63 is supposed to trap 113-116 in the quarter mile, I should have been able to reel him in harder? I know with a tune (70 more horses), I would have smoked that R8 as it was very close today.

Edited to add: I'm seeing a few tests that put the V8 R8 trapping around 113 and change so they are very close stock to stock. This driver seemed little and I figured I had 100 lbs. on him so it seemed to have played out as expected.

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Does your car have the P31 package? I would be very surprised if a P31 car did not pull on a V8 R8. C&D clocked the C63 with P31 at 120mph at the quarter. I have driven R8s before and they did not feel subjectively faster than my M3 and a P31 C63 should easily pull on my M3.

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Originally Posted by Helms
Perhaps he wasn't flooring it? The Audi R8 does 0-60 in about 3.9 i believe so im not sure.
well, 0-60 is a perfect run on a rubbery drag strip. i play with these guys sometimes. its usually pretty close. they do have the advantage though cause of the weight issue
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Does your car have the P31 package? I would be very surprised if a P31 car did not pull on a V8 R8. C&D clocked the C63 with P31 at 120mph at the quarter. I have driven R8s before and they did not feel subjectively faster than my M3 and a P31 C63 should easily pull on my M3.

Mine is just a stock non-P31 09 C63 with forged rims. No mods. So it is looking like he had a strong stock V8 R8 that the mags have trapping around 113 MPH and I have an average non-P31 C63 that traps around the same. The only difference being that I had slightly less unsprung weight than stock (16 lbs.?) and more sprung weight than an average driver with nothing in the trunk (100+ extra lbs. between driver and items in my trunk at the time).
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well, 0-60 is a perfect run on a rubbery drag strip. i play with these guys sometimes. its usually pretty close. they do have the advantage though cause of the weight issue
These are roll on races not 0-60 runs. The 0-60 runs from a dig are so much more surface/ driver/ launch dependent than roll-on races. Those races really come down to a similar comparison of how they stack up in 1/4 mile trap speeds (unless the driver is so bad he picks the wrong gear in the R8).
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Originally Posted by gthal
Does your car have the P31 package? I would be very surprised if a P31 car did not pull on a V8 R8. C&D clocked the C63 with P31 at 120mph at the quarter. I have driven R8s before and they did not feel subjectively faster than my M3 and a P31 C63 should easily pull on my M3.
The M3 loses to the R8 off the line, but once the engine starts to get into it's sweet spot above 4k, it starts coming back. Pretty sure a DCT would keep up with it.


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Some of you may be interested in this video from Car and Driver whereby they race the 211 E63 Wagon (507 HP 6.3) against the V8 420 HP R8 at a dragstrip. The E63 wagon pulls on the R8 each and every time. If you watch it doesn't even seem to be close. Here's the video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkLATjo6Oyo
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I raced a white one last year, pulled on it every time. It was a V8.

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The R8's in general are not necessarily better performers then many of the other cars in its class or even the super saloons. What it does have going for it... is style
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Originally Posted by AMGeez
...a stretch of road on a private property which is designated for roll on racing...
HOLD ON. Did nobody else read this part of the sentence? Where is this?
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HOLD ON. Did nobody else read this part of the sentence? Where is this?
Good point! I hope this isn't in Mexico.
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Originally Posted by wawy
Some of you may be interested in this video from Car and Driver whereby they race the 211 E63 Wagon (507 HP 6.3) against the V8 420 HP R8 at a dragstrip. The E63 wagon pulls on the R8 each and every time. If you watch it doesn't even seem to be close. Here's the video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkLATjo6Oyo
That's just not right!
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That's just not right!
One traps around 115 consistently and the other averages 112 in the quarter. Should the difference be that pronounced?
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I have raced a Audi R8 V10 2 times on Gustavs m5board events. I won both times whit about 2 CL.
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Originally Posted by justthebest
HOLD ON. Did nobody else read this part of the sentence? Where is this?
Every highway in America...
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ive raced an v8 r8 but from a roll and was able to beat it pretty solidly with a fully stock c63 and no p31 package. Not sure how id fare against a v10 but would love to race one some day and see how i would do
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It sounds like a non-P31 C63 with just a tune would land between the v8 and v10 R8's in straight line performance. Not too far off of the v10 though.

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i can tell you from experience that the v10 version is pretty fast but i pulled on one pretty bad . i have the MHP tune , headers and mids and i walked away from him
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i can tell you from experience that the v10 version is pretty fast but i pulled on one pretty bad . i have the MHP tune , headers and mids and i walked away from him
How close do you think it would have been if you'd only had the tuned ecu?
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How close do you think it would have been if you'd only had the tuned ecu?
Tune only C63s you gain at least 3 cars on a 40-130+. Signficant difference. Tune really wakes up these cars.
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Originally Posted by gthal
Does your car have the P31 package? I would be very surprised if a P31 car did not pull on a V8 R8. C&D clocked the C63 with P31 at 120mph at the quarter. I have driven R8s before and they did not feel subjectively faster than my M3 and a P31 C63 should easily pull on my M3.
With P31, you will have a good pull on it! The R8 I raced is my brother's and he did not take it easy on me.

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