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Old 12-04-2011, 06:41 PM
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Ceramic Brakes ? Lifespan?

Do the C63s have a ceramic brake option and how long do they last? Do they last longer then the general amg brake set up?
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The C63 does not have a ceramic rotor option.
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Ok cool. I was not sure. I was talking to a guy about his and he mentioned that his C63 has every option available they they offered on his 09 and said something about ceramic brakes, I guess it was talking about the pads.
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As nice as carbon ceramic would be, it'd probably be a $15k option at least.
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As nice as carbon ceramic would be, it'd probably be a $15k option at least.
It's a little over $14,000 option on the SLS here in Canada
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Originally Posted by E55 Bulldog
Ok cool. I was not sure. I was talking to a guy about his and he mentioned that his C63 has every option available they they offered on his 09 and said something about ceramic brakes, I guess it was talking about the pads.
Performance package has "composite" brakes

Meaning 2 piece rotors in the front... I was told possibly ceramic compound. brake pads
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Performance package has "composite" brakes

Meaning 2 piece rotors in the front... I was told possibly ceramic compound. brake pads
composite means ''put together'' by MB. u were told wrong. not ceramic.
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As nice as carbon ceramic would be, it'd probably be a $15k option at least.
Porsche charges $8,000.
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The C63 does not have ceramic brake rotors even as an option. (Not sure about the Black Series, the SLR, or SLS. The advantage of ceramic rotors are they do not fade, have superior stopping power on a street car as they do not need to be warmed up to work, they last up to 100,000 miles, they weight half as much as steel rotors, and don't transfer as much heat to the calipers reducing the tendency for brake fluid to boil when over heated. The bad news is they are crazy expensive. Even the cheapest ceramic brake option on the Boxster is $8K going up to almost $9K on the Turbo. Replacement ceramic rotors on a Porsche cost $4K each. Extra care must also be taken when removing or installing wheels as ceramic rotors can be chipped. Most Porsche owners that track their cars replace the ceramics with traditional steel rotors with hard track pads as they designed to work better when properly warmed up under track conditions. They are cutting edge braking technology but may not be cost effective.

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C63's don't have the CC option but they have 4 times the life of iron rotors.
Like Duane C63 said, they will be good up to 100k miles.
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Good deal. Thanks guys. The car Im looking at has the performance package so I was not sure what all it came with. I know the upped the top speed, tuned the suspension, and did something with the brakes but was not sure.
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I've seen some P31s without red calipers, but I thought that wasn't possible. It was a 2010 model so it may have been an earlier one, but I wasn't sure.
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100.000klm at least , my buddy I track with has a 997 with ceramic brakes pccb I think they call it and he has 180,000 KLm on them , I always bugged him about the price but he shut me up as he does about 10 -12 track days every year , and has never changed them , also a daily driver
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w212 e63's have it as an option now. 12k or 16k.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyUte
I've seen some P31s without red calipers, but I thought that wasn't possible. It was a 2010 model so it may have been an earlier one, but I wasn't sure.
Interesting. Maybe it was so early on in the production cycle that it still had the P30 option and not P31.
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Good deal. Thanks guys. The car Im looking at has the performance package so I was not sure what all it came with. I know the upped the top speed, tuned the suspension, and did something with the brakes but was not sure.
If it is pre 2010 it's the P30 package with no power upgrade but also has LSD. If its 2010 or later it most likely the P31 package with does have the power upgrade but no LSD. Ask for the build sheet to find out for sure.
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Yeah, it is a 2009 P30.
We are currently working on the details right now.
Its steel gray with Ash interior.
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Yeah, it is a 2009 P30.
We are currently working on the details right now.
Its steel gray with Ash interior.
In the resale market the P30 package doesn't command much of a premium over the base model. Keep that in mind during your negotiations. The LSD is nice to have as are the brakes. The most common complaint is the suspension is a bit stiff with the 19" wheels that are prone to road damage.
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In the resale market the P30 package doesn't command much of a premium over the base model. Keep that in mind during your negotiations. The LSD is nice to have as are the brakes. The most common complaint is the suspension is a bit stiff with the 19" wheels that are prone to road damage.
Deal is pretty good. I can't complain and it is local so i don't have to pay for flight and shipping ect. Plus warranty is through MB through Feb2016.

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