derek

Yikes! My calipers are now burgundy from heat. There has to be some less expensive racing pads, these things are 350 bux, this car is making track days very expensive.

Muskoka_AMG

Try Carbotech. I have XP10s on the front, and they've survived 3 track days with about 50% life left. The downside to the pads are they are loud and you need to send them your cores. The upside is they are a good value option and are an excellent product.

James@ACG

Its time for you to finally try the endless ME20's, these pads will not disappoint you.

they are also in stock

amdeutsch

Quit with the left foot riding on the brake.

Another option you have are Pagids.

Talk to the guys you run with. What do they use?

Some tracks are harder than others on brakes. There is no simple formula. Plus your skill comes into play. Tracks are more than straight line speed and hard braking into corners. Sometimes being slower on the straight allows for faster corners and faster times.

derek

Thanks for the responses fellas. MSR is a short track (1.7 miles) it's brutal on brakes (probably wouldn't be as brutal if I were a better driver) and 3900 pounds doesn't help.

derek

No one here running an AMG that I have seen.

Mikegpr03

Try porterfields I love those pads

amdeutsch

There are a lot of fast cars. Physics still come into play; its a relationship. Not all pads, rotors are the same size either.

I've run with Porsche 924s and Miatas. I follow them, refusing a pass on a straight, because they are faster overall. And their brakes seem to last longer after talking to them.

I know its apples and oranges; but its something to learn from.

derek

I just got a quote for Endless ME20 Pads, $620 bux. Seems very expensive to me vs. Hawks or Carbotech. Anyone run these think they are worth double? The gentleman I spoke with said they are thicker, but are they double the thickness?

jobee

I run the endless as a daily driver and track, they are great

derek

Great. Ok, but are they worth over 1k for a full set of pads? Really, that's very expensive. Are you running race compound pads? that's $620 for just front pads.

yooker

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php

Go to C63 brake pads, Stoptech High performance is great.

Merc63

Im running these pads too. RS4. They are working great. But no track use here.

amdeutsch

Better not be double or you won't be able to fit them. Ask them how much thicker. You may be dealing with a salesmonkey.

You get what you pay for. One simple rule of thumb; the more dust, the less friction they have. Which will also affect your rotor wear. Talk to that ' no brakes guys'. You seem to trust him.


Tracking is not cheap. You pay to play.

James@ACG

The endless pads for your C63 are 17mm thick, same as OEM. From my comparison at streets of willow which is a shorter more technical track, the endless pads have lasted about 7-8 track days over the carbotech XP12's which have only lasted 3 events

I have the front pads here for $575, let me know

James@ACG

derek

I have spent a lot of time at the track, but most of it in an e46 m3, which was not as heavy thus didn't require as much investment in tires and pads!!! if i could just shed 400 pounds and brake less.

I have to say, I appreciate all the input, but now I'm beyond confused as to which way to go...

amdeutsch

Unfortunately there is no easy answer. What works for some doesn't necessarily work for others.
I went through a set of Pagid Orange in 6 track days, 4 of which came on a track known to be hard on brakes - if your existing pads aren't at least 3/16" thick put on new ones for the weekend.
I've now switched to Pagid Yellows to see if I get more days.
Another pad I've heard about are Performance Friction 06s. Supposedly they are similar to Pagid Yellows but are slightly cheaper with a similar wear. I may try those next if the Pagid Yellows don't do the trick.

As your 'no brakes needed' guy stated you can extend the longevity of your tires by getting a different alignment. The Michelin SS will stand -2 deg chamber even in DD without abnormal wear. The benefit to you will be they will last longer on the track.

HTH

derek

I can probably put another 1/2 degree of neg camber as I am running 255's on the front. The problem I am running in to on the pads is figuring out what's available. Where did you get your pagids?

amdeutsch

http://www.ogracing.com/car/brake-pads

http://www.braketechnology.com/car.html

http://www.apexperformance.net/

4ramin

agreed

Ausmbtech

I've been using ME20's for the past 2yrs, no complaints, no noise, great trackday pad (4 Events so far on same pads), easier on rotors and even better bite when cold then the stock pad!!