EC Tuned C63 vs EC Tuned Gallardo
06-12-2012, 11:55 PM
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EC Tuned C63 vs EC Tuned Gallardo
This is the first video , I will upload more shortly. Both cars are mine and both cars have the Eurocharged Tune. Big thanks to Mike and Jerry!
06-13-2012, 01:51 AM
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Started at 50km/h and never really payed much attention to the speeds after that. I have a top speed video I will post tomorrow . The lambo hit 315km/h and my c63 was really hanging in there I think he said he was just about at 300km/h as well.
06-13-2012, 02:41 AM
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A few days ago I chased a F430 on the highway with my stock non P31 and he didn't pull away 
It makes me laugh because I had a friend and two girls with me
How much power does the gallardo have in the video?
It makes me laugh because I had a friend and two girls with me
How much power does the gallardo have in the video?
06-13-2012, 04:27 AM
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thats old gallardo right ?
i was chasing a gallardo on street old model and i passed him i was behind him loool i had a passenger with me too my car had only MHP Tune
Great memories though
Great race and thanks for sharing
i was chasing a gallardo on street old model and i passed him i was behind him loool i had a passenger with me too my car had only MHP Tune
Great memories though
Great race and thanks for sharing
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06-13-2012, 06:01 AM
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I have a few more videos to post where we switched the camera passenger to the lambo and then the c63 hangs in a lot better all the way to 315 km/h
06-13-2012, 04:56 PM
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06-13-2012, 05:44 PM
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06-13-2012, 05:49 PM
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So, if your car dynos at 410 rwhp, then it's not making 540 bhp at that moment. But, that's not to say that if your tune is aggressive enough, your hp can't bump up when you add higher octane and let the ECU adapt accordingly.
Just for reference, I don't believe a stock (non P31) C63 makes 451 bhp when 91 octane is in the tank. But, add upwards of 93 octane and mash the hell out of the gas for a number of runs, and the car will make the 451 bhp.
06-13-2012, 05:52 PM
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It think it really comes down to the octane of the gas that you have in the tank when you dyno the car and how much the ECU has adapted.
So, if your car dynos at 410 rwhp, then it's not making 540 bhp at that moment. But, that's not to say that if your tune is aggressive enough, your hp can't bump up when you add higher octane and let the ECU adapt accordingly.
Just for reference, I don't believe a stock (non P31) C63 makes 451 bhp when 91 octane is in the tank. But, add upwards of 93 octane and mash the hell out of the gas for a number of runs, and the car will make the 451 bhp.
So, if your car dynos at 410 rwhp, then it's not making 540 bhp at that moment. But, that's not to say that if your tune is aggressive enough, your hp can't bump up when you add higher octane and let the ECU adapt accordingly.
Just for reference, I don't believe a stock (non P31) C63 makes 451 bhp when 91 octane is in the tank. But, add upwards of 93 octane and mash the hell out of the gas for a number of runs, and the car will make the 451 bhp.
ok I just pulled out my dyno sheets to confirm.... I dynoed 349whp STOCK non P31... so thats 22.5% Drivetrain Loss...
Then after the Tune it dynoed 410whp. SAME gas and Same Dyno.. so doing 22.5% loss that comes out to 532 Crank HP ... so not quite 540 Sorry but Close.
06-13-2012, 06:59 PM
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06-13-2012, 07:40 PM
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06-14-2012, 12:49 AM
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If it were as simple as what you said, many different stock C63's would appear to have different drivetrain losses, which is not realistic.
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06-14-2012, 01:37 AM
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Just because you got results from a dyno does not necessarily mean you can figure out your drivetrain loss based on your results.
If it were as simple as what you said, many different stock C63's would appear to have different drivetrain losses, which is not realistic.
If it were as simple as what you said, many different stock C63's would appear to have different drivetrain losses, which is not realistic.
06-14-2012, 01:42 AM
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Yes, dynos read different from one to the next. That has to do with many variables, most of which are presently beyond my understanding. But, dynos reading differently from one another is not the subject we were discussing.
We were discussing whether you can use one dyno at one point in time to determine one car's drivetrain loss. That you cannot do.
06-14-2012, 01:56 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by 1%.
Yes, dynos read different from one to the next. That has to do with many variables, most of which are presently beyond my understanding. But, dynos reading differently from one another is not the subject we were discussing.
We were discussing whether you can use one dyno at one point in time to determine one car's drivetrain loss. That you cannot do.
Yes, dynos read different from one to the next. That has to do with many variables, most of which are presently beyond my understanding. But, dynos reading differently from one another is not the subject we were discussing.
We were discussing whether you can use one dyno at one point in time to determine one car's drivetrain loss. That you cannot do.
06-14-2012, 03:36 AM
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You can't because you're assuming your stock HP is 451 when in fact, you don't really know other than the fact that it is what MB claims it is. In a perfect world, yes, every C63 that rolls off the assembly line makes 451 but we all know that just isn't the case.
You can't because you're assuming your stock HP is 451 when in fact, you don't really know other than the fact that it is what MB claims it is. In a perfect world, yes, every C63 that rolls off the assembly line makes 451 but we all know that just isn't the case.
06-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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First of all you have a terrific pair of vehicles, choosing which one to drive each day must be a fun decision 
To clear up the conversation regarding drive train loss better known as parasitic loss since more variables than just the drive train contribute to the “theft”. Take a stock base C63 to shop A with a Dynojet dyno and you will likely see 370 hp at the wheels. Immediately go to shop B next door with a Mustang dyno and you will likely see 340 hp at the wheels. Same car, same conditions, two different devices to measure power. The only constant is factory claimed flywheel power so the parasitic loss will be different depending on which device was used.
Regardless of all this, tune only cars are creating ~530 hp on a regular basis these days and probably a bit more in perfect DA situations. Several members have run mid 11’s at 120+ with just a tune in prime conditions as well as some mid 8 second 60- 130’s.
To clear up the conversation regarding drive train loss better known as parasitic loss since more variables than just the drive train contribute to the “theft”. Take a stock base C63 to shop A with a Dynojet dyno and you will likely see 370 hp at the wheels. Immediately go to shop B next door with a Mustang dyno and you will likely see 340 hp at the wheels. Same car, same conditions, two different devices to measure power. The only constant is factory claimed flywheel power so the parasitic loss will be different depending on which device was used.
Regardless of all this, tune only cars are creating ~530 hp on a regular basis these days and probably a bit more in perfect DA situations. Several members have run mid 11’s at 120+ with just a tune in prime conditions as well as some mid 8 second 60- 130’s.
