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I drove a Wrangler...and I liked it.

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Old 07-19-2012, 07:13 AM
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I drove a Wrangler...and I liked it.

I had the opportunity to use it for a bit and lo and behold, I grew attached to it. It was the 2012 model with the 3.8 V6 petrol and 4 speed auto. So I can only imagine what the newer 2012 with the 3.6 V6 and 5 speed is like.

i liked the upright windscreen, the go anywhere ability, the funky looks, the live axles that keep you honest...etc.

They really improved the interior too. The steering wheel is nice, it has two airbags, a CD-changer, remote central locking, electric windows all round, Electronic stability program, ABS, soft touch 3-flash indicator function, auto headlights, tire pressure monitoring system that uses ESP, Fuel distance till empty indicator, A/C, Decoupling front sway bar and front and rear diff locks, etc. I was surprised as the last time I really looked at a wrangler, they were really basic. This type of evolution reminds me of the G-class.

It is now sold so I'm getting something else to fill the gap but I just might go back to the newer 3.6litre version at some point in the future.

It's weird that from a C63, I found the Wrangler enjoyable despite its unique quirks such as the requirement of having mastered P90X just to enter the car every time.

However, I must say that after driving the Wrangler for about 2 months, the C63 was like the Star ship Enterprise engaging warp drive, every time I drive it. It feels sooo fast!

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My wife has a 2012 Grand Cherokee Laredo X with the V6. I was pleasantly surprised at the zippyness of it, and it is actually fun to drive (especially when we go camping.. it is a very capable vehicle) It is currently the only American vehicle that we have ever owned. The bright side is that the GC is based on the MB ML platform, which might account for its smoother, refined ride while still remaining offroad capable... (I sound like that dude from Motor Trend don't I... heh.. )
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Im with you. 2 cars that really surprised me:

1) Wrangler - go anywhere, throttle response is reasonable, interior amenities are pretty good - checked out a loaded one a few months back with navi, bluetooth, etc. 4drs with tons of room. I have been driving one for the last week across tough terrain in Maui and loved it - top down, enjoying the outdoors!

2) GMC Terrain - same deal...impressive technology, comfortable ride, picks up well, great interior/exterior styling...really surprising.
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i am waiting on the 2013 Ford Explorer Sport to come out . i'm trading in the GLK for it
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I was looking at one recently too. The new pentastar with a 6-speed manual in the Rubicon is hard to beat. After thinking it through I realized that I would never use the capabilities so I went with more of a road car for my daily.
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Originally Posted by BAD430BENZ
i am waiting on the 2013 Ford Explorer Sport to come out . i'm trading in the GLK for it
Please tell me you are joking...

The Explorer is no longer based on a truck platform, rather it shares the underlying platform of the ford Taurus......
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Please tell me you are joking...

The Explorer is no longer based on a truck platform, rather it shares the underlying platform of the ford Taurus......
i guess it's considered more of a crossover than an SUV now . well my GLK is too damn small now that i have my little guy . the room in the rear storage compartment is good enough for a stroller and that's about it , unless it's a bunch of smaller items . it's not a road trip kind of vehicle . the rear seats can't fit 2 people with the car seat installed . the leg room is definately not that great unless you drive like a 90 year old woman about 6" from the steering wheel . with all that said , my company gets a fleet rate from Ford for all the business we have done over the years so that's the reason behind my choice . i don't haul any trailers or anything like that and i don't hit the desert for some offroading
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We had the same issue with the EX35. We traded her 7 month old 2011 model in November last year for the grand Cherokee. It fits our 11 week old, accompanying crap, our great Dane and Dalmatian without a problem
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Ford is definitely taking their styling cues from LR - notice how similar the front end of the new explorer is to RR/Evoque? I like it

Good feedback regarding kids/dogs, need to take that into account it seems. So many folks get a "compact suv" then have a kid and say wait a sec....not big enough for one kid never mind 2 or more! I'll need to go check out the Rubicon with 6spd, that's awesome.
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Originally Posted by jvanbrecht
My wife has a 2012 Grand Cherokee Laredo X with the V6. I was pleasantly surprised at the zippyness of it, and it is actually fun to drive (especially when we go camping.. it is a very capable vehicle) It is currently the only American vehicle that we have ever owned. The bright side is that the GC is based on the MB ML platform, which might account for its smoother, refined ride while still remaining offroad capable... (I sound like that dude from Motor Trend don't I... heh.. )
Maybe you are the guy from Motor Trend I might also try a Grand Cherokee at some point too. Test drove one and was impressed. But for now another one has my attention...


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Im with you. 2 cars that really surprised me:

1) Wrangler - go anywhere, throttle response is reasonable, interior amenities are pretty good - checked out a loaded one a few months back with navi, bluetooth, etc. 4drs with tons of room. I have been driving one for the last week across tough terrain in Maui and loved it - top down, enjoying the outdoors!

2) GMC Terrain - same deal...impressive technology, comfortable ride, picks up well, great interior/exterior styling...really surprising.
I didn't even get a chance to drive it with the top down. I guess I'll make itn a point if I get the rubicon unlimited 3.6 later on. I did take it off road though and enjoyed it!
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I bought a 2012 Grand Cherokee Limited with/Hemi last week and it's awesome. New design inside and out is very nice. Kind of a mix between luxury SUV and off road vehicle.
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One of the few cars that gets worse gas mileage then ours

Although hauling *** at full throttle off road is awesome I want one too...
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I've been considering a wrangler for some time now, especially, with the new updates.

The only thing I think I will miss is the driving on rails feeling I get in a Mercedes.

How would you rate the wrangler at highway speeds?
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Originally Posted by dcjwlee
I've been considering a wrangler for some time now, especially, with the new updates.

The only thing I think I will miss is the driving on rails feeling I get in a Mercedes.

How would you rate the wrangler at highway speeds?
On smooth roads it seems planted but on bumpy roads and at high speed that rear axle is ALIVE!!!

So keep the speed below 60mph on a bumpy/uneven highway and it feels solid enough but go much faster and you will feel the skips. To be honest this car is more about driving on bad terrain (or just cruising in and around the city thanks to the super driving position and view). If you only do highway mileage, I don't know if you will really enjoy it. When I drove it, it made me seek out bad roads to maximize my fun!
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On smooth roads it seems planted but on bumpy roads and at high speed that rear axle is ALIVE!!!

So keep the speed below 60mph on a bumpy/uneven highway and it feels solid enough but go much faster and you will feel the skips. To be honest this car is more about driving on bad terrain (or just cruising in and around the city thanks to the super driving position and view). If you only do highway mileage, I don't know if you will really enjoy it. When I drove it, it made me seek out bad roads to maximize my fun!
Ditto. Definitely better cruising around locally than extended highway trips. On the highway I would miss the zip, smoothness, and linearity of the C.
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As I expected. But the latest addition to our family calls for a car that can actually fit her kennel in the car.


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No death wobble yet? Was all over our news a few months ago. Looks like there is at least an aftermarket fix for it, but Chrysler refuses to acknowledge it as a problem.

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As I expected. But the latest addition to our family calls for a car that can actually fit her kennel in the car.


Penny the Vizsla.



Decisions decisions...
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LOL that picture where he is on the couch is priceless. That is one big dog.

Penny will only grow to be about 65 lbs. Maybe 80 if she's a freak.


Originally Posted by b16
No death wobble yet? Was all over our news a few months ago. Looks like there is at least an aftermarket fix for it, but Chrysler refuses to acknowledge it as a problem.
Holy smokes...

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Here is my replacement:



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I think I've found my replacement.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/index/0,,...tSource=topnav

Since MB doesn't offer a C class wagon in the states... and the driving dynamics of a full on SUV just won't cut it for me.
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Originally Posted by rory breaker
Im with you. 2 cars that really surprised me:

1) Wrangler - go anywhere, throttle response is reasonable, interior amenities are pretty good - checked out a loaded one a few months back with navi, bluetooth, etc. 4drs with tons of room. I have been driving one for the last week across tough terrain in Maui and loved it - top down, enjoying the outdoors!

2) GMC Terrain - same deal...impressive technology, comfortable ride, picks up well, great interior/exterior styling...really surprising.
My wife drives a 2011 GMC Terrain and we really like it. Good size, gas mileage, and extremely comfortable. Great all around vehicle for the money.

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