Does respraying a car lower its sale value?
09-08-2012, 04:56 PM
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Does respraying a car lower its sale value?
Hi guys
I'm considering many things these days (keeping the car or not, mods etc)... And I was wondering if I had my car reaprayed and then protected by a clear coat film, would it hurt its sale value the day I decide to get rid of it?
I know for a fact that dealerships check paint thickness so I don't know..
Thanks!
I'm considering many things these days (keeping the car or not, mods etc)... And I was wondering if I had my car reaprayed and then protected by a clear coat film, would it hurt its sale value the day I decide to get rid of it?
I know for a fact that dealerships check paint thickness so I don't know..
Thanks!
09-08-2012, 05:14 PM
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Here's an interesting case that partially answers your question:
The BMW vs Gore "Paint Job" Case
Why Did BMW Deliberately Rip Off Its Own Customers?
Dr. Ira Gore, who treats cancer patients in Birmingham, Alabama, bought a new BMW 535i automobile in January 1990. He paid $40,750 for the car, which BMW markets as the "ultimate driving machine," with "flawless body panels" that retain "their original luster" after many miles of wear.
Dr. Gore wrongly assumed that since the car was new, it had never been damaged. In fact, when Dr. Gore took his car to an auto detailing expert nine months after the purchase, he learned that virtually the entire car -- the top, hood, trunk and quarter panels -- had been repainted due to acid rain damage sustained in transit from BMW's factory in Germany. BMW kept computer records of repairs to all of its cars, but no one from the automaker ever told Dr. Gore that the car he bought had been repainted at a company facility in Georgia. BMW even failed to disclose to its own dealers that cars had been repainted.
Feeling cheated, Dr. Gore filed a fraud suit in Alabama state court against BMW and the dealer. During the trial, Dr. Gore showed that:
The repainted car -- although it looked "new" -- would always be unavoidably inferior. This is because the super-heated painting process at the factory could not be duplicated once non-metal parts were installed in the assembled car.
Even if the repaint job was done as well as possible, the car still would be worth 10 percent less, a former BMW dealer testified. This is because the paint on the repainted car would begin to fade, reducing the value of the car. (In Dr. Gore's case, he was defrauded out of approximately $4,000, i.e., the $40,750 purchase price minus 10 percent.)
BMW's Executive Board had adopted a policy in 1983 to deliberately and fraudulently conceal from customers -- and even its own dealers -- that vehicles had been repainted, regardless of the extent of the damage or cost of repairs. Notably, a BMW expert testified that he would want to know whether a car had been repainted if he was going to purchase it.
A minimum of 983 other cars, each with at least $300 in damage, had been sold to unsuspecting American customers. BMW also sold more than 5,850 other repaired vehicles as "new" without disclosing repairs. These figures, though, vastly underestimate BMW's program of nationwide fraud. At a post-trial hearing, BMW filed a document indicating that repainting is required on 2 to 3 percent of all new BMW vehicles sold in the United States.
The BMW vs Gore "Paint Job" Case
Why Did BMW Deliberately Rip Off Its Own Customers?
Dr. Ira Gore, who treats cancer patients in Birmingham, Alabama, bought a new BMW 535i automobile in January 1990. He paid $40,750 for the car, which BMW markets as the "ultimate driving machine," with "flawless body panels" that retain "their original luster" after many miles of wear.
Dr. Gore wrongly assumed that since the car was new, it had never been damaged. In fact, when Dr. Gore took his car to an auto detailing expert nine months after the purchase, he learned that virtually the entire car -- the top, hood, trunk and quarter panels -- had been repainted due to acid rain damage sustained in transit from BMW's factory in Germany. BMW kept computer records of repairs to all of its cars, but no one from the automaker ever told Dr. Gore that the car he bought had been repainted at a company facility in Georgia. BMW even failed to disclose to its own dealers that cars had been repainted.
Feeling cheated, Dr. Gore filed a fraud suit in Alabama state court against BMW and the dealer. During the trial, Dr. Gore showed that:
The repainted car -- although it looked "new" -- would always be unavoidably inferior. This is because the super-heated painting process at the factory could not be duplicated once non-metal parts were installed in the assembled car.
Even if the repaint job was done as well as possible, the car still would be worth 10 percent less, a former BMW dealer testified. This is because the paint on the repainted car would begin to fade, reducing the value of the car. (In Dr. Gore's case, he was defrauded out of approximately $4,000, i.e., the $40,750 purchase price minus 10 percent.)
BMW's Executive Board had adopted a policy in 1983 to deliberately and fraudulently conceal from customers -- and even its own dealers -- that vehicles had been repainted, regardless of the extent of the damage or cost of repairs. Notably, a BMW expert testified that he would want to know whether a car had been repainted if he was going to purchase it.
A minimum of 983 other cars, each with at least $300 in damage, had been sold to unsuspecting American customers. BMW also sold more than 5,850 other repaired vehicles as "new" without disclosing repairs. These figures, though, vastly underestimate BMW's program of nationwide fraud. At a post-trial hearing, BMW filed a document indicating that repainting is required on 2 to 3 percent of all new BMW vehicles sold in the United States.
09-08-2012, 07:07 PM
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So is there any way to make my car look brand new and protect the paint without respraying it?
I just wanna get rid of all the marks, swirls and dents. I had it polished and waxed yesterday but there is still some marks. It's a black car and it's hard to maintain. The previous owner obviously didn't care as much as I do.
I just wanna get rid of all the marks, swirls and dents. I had it polished and waxed yesterday but there is still some marks. It's a black car and it's hard to maintain. The previous owner obviously didn't care as much as I do.
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09-08-2012, 07:23 PM
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So is there any way to make my car look brand new and protect the paint without respraying it?
I just wanna get rid of all the marks, swirls and dents. I had it polished and waxed yesterday but there is still some marks. It's a black car and it's hard to maintain. The previous owner obviously didn't care as much as I do.
I just wanna get rid of all the marks, swirls and dents. I had it polished and waxed yesterday but there is still some marks. It's a black car and it's hard to maintain. The previous owner obviously didn't care as much as I do.
09-08-2012, 07:35 PM
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Thanks to gthal I already found a very good detailer in my area! I'm deciding to keep the car and make it look literally brand new, fix everything and buy an extended warranty by december (pretty expensive for this car)
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09-09-2012, 09:57 AM
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I have an S4 wrapped right now (just bought it that way) and it looks pretty cool. In a few years (if I have it that long) I can just peal it off and polish the paint.
If you go this route, have it professionally done. It's hard to do the contours.
Otherwise have a "GOOD" detail'er do your car, you need a paint correction.
If you go this route, have it professionally done. It's hard to do the contours.
Otherwise have a "GOOD" detail'er do your car, you need a paint correction.
09-09-2012, 11:01 AM
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09-09-2012, 03:42 PM
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Go to a wrap place, you will usually be able to see and touch the wraps as well as vehicles in different stages of getting wrapped.
09-09-2012, 05:08 PM
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Just imagine yourself: Would you want to buy a resprayed/prepainted car? Not me. Thus the value is sure to go down.
09-09-2012, 06:13 PM
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Respray/Value?....depends upon a few things.
If you know why the respray was done, who did it, & what was "underneath", before the respray was done....& so there's "no secrets", then the value shouldn't be affected too much....on some older, classic cars, it could even increase the value.
But, on a late model vehicle, like a C63, I'd want to know why it had been resprayed...as above etc.....and if I couldn't ascertain these details, then I'd leave the car alone, and in these circumstances, I think the value would be adversely affected.
Cheers, Pickles.
If you know why the respray was done, who did it, & what was "underneath", before the respray was done....& so there's "no secrets", then the value shouldn't be affected too much....on some older, classic cars, it could even increase the value.
But, on a late model vehicle, like a C63, I'd want to know why it had been resprayed...as above etc.....and if I couldn't ascertain these details, then I'd leave the car alone, and in these circumstances, I think the value would be adversely affected.
Cheers, Pickles.
09-09-2012, 08:12 PM
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