mainly

didnt exactly answer my question but thanks anyway...

judging by the front rotors probably being heavier than the rears, id guess maybe about 45 lbs total weight savings...

revellix

You asked if AMG Steel brakes are heavier than Carbon Ceramic Brakes didn't you?

Please refine...

mainly

no i didn't ask that. maybe read my post again.

i asked what the weight saving was, in lbs.

now yes, im able to convert kgs to lbs, but in addition, you only gave weights for the front calipers.

i asked what the total weight savings would be. not just for the front.

revellix

2x AMG Steel front discs - 2x 13,8 kg
2x AMG Steel rear discs - 2x 10,95 kg
2x AMG Steel front calipers - 2x 5,78 kg
2x AMG Steel rear calipers - 2x 2,75 kg

AMG Steel Total: 146.739 lbs

2x AMG CC front discs - 2x 7,94 kg
2x AMG CC rear discs - 2x 6,25 kg
2x AMG CC front calipers - 2x 6,9 kg
2x AMG CC rear calipers - 2x 3 kg

AMG CC Total: 106.2 lbs

Weight Savings: ~27%

mainly

40 lbs.thanks.

mainly

So if one were to option the CCB's Then the increase in weight (lol, here we go again) from 4 matic would only be.about 100 lbs???

EVOII_Racer

Damn just plain sick love this modification the calipers and discs look incredible! well done

That's my next mod. on my ml63 can't wait

lapd1989

i wanted to know how much this cost you??? and can this be done with the oem c calipers??? i really like the 2 piece rotors. that is mt fav part of the whole install. please get back to me on this thanks

EVOII_Racer

The price is around USD 15'000

Dads C63

You cannot do this with the stock C calipers. The CC rotors are larger.

This price is a good estimate not including labor. You will also need the spacers and longer bolts for the front calipers to fit properly. Let me know if you need any help.

Karl901

Check this out about CCBs

http://www.mercteil.com/en/products/...ake-system-141

EVOII_Racer

Thanks for the link amazing!!






G55, a little OT but:

I wanted to install the Mb/brembo ceramic kit but it won't work for my ml63 due to the weightof my amg...
Therefore i am also going with the Movit ceramic 396x40 and 6 pistons

- How much if i May ask?
- on what car are you installing the Movit cf brakes?

Brad2277

Hello new on here, just wondering if the hats on the rear cc rotors could be swapped with OEM size hats to avoid changing axles etc, I see this question has been asked before but no answer to it or is that for obvious reasons?

Dads C63

The rear hats and design are totally different so they cannot be exchanged. The rear exchange is not that difficult. However, remember changing to the CC brakes will require all new wheels as the offset changes front and rear.

Brad2277

Ah right I see so the setup here is the best/only option really, would spacers correct the offset or would it have to be new wheels? I presume BS wheels used here would be suffice?

Dads C63

Spacers won't work because the axles are longer/further out which requires more offset so its the oppostire problem from spacers.

Brad2277

Right gotcha now thanks for the info

Footbrawler80

Wow, I love those brakes! Guess its time to call the dealership to get pricing.

kl2014

can you tell me how much you pay for this?

Dads C63

The price has been listed a couple of times earlier in the thread but all the parts not including labor or new wheels etc... is about $15,000.

mercteil

Just to make clear, that it is not impossible.

justthebest

More info - will stock wheels fit, which CCB setup did you use, did you need to fabricate mounts, etc.?

Thanks

mercteil

Stock wheels will surely fit.

There is a lot work necessary to make this work, not only the new fabricated mounts.

This is not a simple DIY conversion.

You have to fabricate different mechanical parts like e.g. caliper carriers (mounts) or middle plates of rotors.

Those MLs were modified in Moscow/Russia.

adolzero

very interesting, Dads C63 may i know the front caliper & rotor part number? i think i will try front since it is relatively easy (caliper mount) any other parts shall i need to order from MB for front retrofit?

thx

mercteil

The parts list was mentioned in this thead before.

Are you going to retrofit only the front brakes???

I think this is not a good idea.... visually and mechanically!