c63buckeye

New owner coming from a '11, 2nd gen. Cayenne S, bought a 2013 P31 sedan to add to the stable of an e93 M3 and Yukon XL. After many modded Audis, VWs, P-Cars, BMWs, trucks and various other rides the C63 seemed to be the most fun available for a DD where i don't need AWD.

Anyway, was able to pull the trigger two weeks ago on $83.5 MSRP P341 sedan at $73k (sticker is below for those of you that are interested, Bay Area dealer). All options but Parktronic/Distronic (which I didn't care about). Car is fantastic and makes me want to get invested in BP and ExxonMobil.

C63 is a beast. Modding will be up next.

khmergod

Sick.

c63buckeye

Thanks.

C63 is crazy fun as a DD. Made the E63 rides I drove feel like a dump truck.

biglee73

Nice pickup.

Which part of the Bay Area are you from?

c63buckeye

Lived in SF and then East Bay. Looking to get some track time at Sonoma and Thunderhill.

Pickles

Lovely car, pretty much like ours except we didn't want C.F. or Lane Tracking. In Aus, P31 also gets you 19" M/Spokes.
Cheers, Pickles.

biglee73

You should take the new ride to EuroSunday this coming weekend.

http://www.eurosunday.net/events/07-july/eastbay.php

Sidv22

congrats and welcome!

biglee, are you going for eurosunday?

c63buckeye

Thanks. 19" HRE P40SC in Satin Charcoal are going on with new tires as soon as stockers are burned up.

biglee73

Yeah i'm probably gonna go. The drive goes right by my house as well so I may participate in that as well.

c63buckeye

I might try and make it.

Roswell

The P40SC is a better choice than the P40.. It was just too rich for my blood or else I would have bought it. I'm still happy with my regular P40.

c63buckeye

They are all expensive, but worth it (until I curb it.....)

olszowa12

Congrats on the new car Enjoy it and post pictures when you get those HREs on.

khmergod

Don't curb it.

_timothy

wow 12% off msrp? you are quite the negotiator.

grats on the purchase and enjoy!

khmergod

This is a good sign that 2014s will be rolling in soon. Dealers gotta dump their inventory.

After looking at OP's picture so many times, I kinda want to get a steel grey now...or at least repaint my whole car to steel grey

_timothy

still, 12%? i kind of want to find out which dealer it is and go trade mine for a '13 coupe. 70kish + TTL on an 83k sticker.. wtf? how can it be that lightly used 12's on ebay are at 60-70 and people are walking out w/ 2013 P31's @ 70kish b/f TTL brand new?

anyway, you could do a wrap! costs less and totally reversible. those matte paint protector wraps look sick. I forget who did it but there was CBS in canada that turned out amazing.

c63buckeye

Was 12.53% actually.

2014s are on the way and dealers will move a 2013 if you are insistent. Get out there and pick up a 2013!

_timothy

awesome! very well done. that makes me wonder what the real margin is on these cars.

c63buckeye

I have bought and sold many cars and i know how I have arrived at the best deal I can get.

What most buyers forget is that the best time to buy a car is at the end of the model year with the new model year incoming, and then at the very end of the month when the dealer needs to make their numbers. Additionally, you should have a 30 day subscription to CarFax when you are shopping even for a new car because many times you can see how long that particular car has been on the dealer's lot (or another dealer's lot if it was a trade or swap that fell through, etc.). Look at the build date inside the door frame as well and factor in delivery time from Germany and port waiting time as that can also give you an idea how long it has been there if you didn't have a CarFax subscription. This is key information to use as leverage.

With cars.com, Edmunds and all of that people think they are armed with information as to MSRP and invoice. Sure, that may be true. However, invoice does not mean anything. The dealer is not buying the car at invoice and if you think so you are fooling yourself. The dealer has many incentives from the manufacturer that go beyond simple holdback. Additionally a dealer may be paying interest on their inventory (flooring) and there are other issues.

The bottom line is that the dealer's triple net can be around around 12% or 13% and that should be your target. For every one deal that the dealer lets go at this level there are 20-30 more where people are paying just over invoice all the way to MSRP and let them make their money on those deals. A dealer still makes money at 12%, but you need to be firm to get there and walk if need be.

Remember - the dealer needs to sell a car, but you don't need to buy one.

YMMV.

OlegKouz

Congrats! What are your modding plans?

c63buckeye

Not sure yet as to long term, but wheels are up first and maybe a Weistec SC.

Roswell

LOL, u can sell them to me after for 50% off lol

Good deal on the car, wish ur advices to purchase at the end of the year model or end of the month would be valid in Canada.

At least in my city, I got 5% off on my car & I had to bargain hard. It's hard to get deals here cuz dealerships in Canada don't stock them much.

Thrilla

She's a beauty!

Thanks for the tips on car buying, I'm definitely going to use them on my next purchase.