ab0bab0i

Saw it on another forum.

The M3 looks badass.











More pics:
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-...m4-reveal.html

abcut973

So they finally decided to keep the M3 alive and go with both M3/M4?
Not bad. How about the engine?

m a x i m u s

not sure if it's just me, but it looks like an acura TL in that first pic. not hating, as i am a fan of the M3.

Richard2011

It seems like they changed the nomenclature for their cars. Odd numbers are sedans, and even numbers are coupes. i.e. the new 2-series coupe isn't a 1-series coupe anymore.

zibby43

The engine is a tweaked version of the old twin-turbo N54 that powered the 2007-2010 E90/E92 335i sedans and coupes.

More horsepower, more torque, lower redline as compared to the outgoing S65 motor.

The new M3/M4 is lighter as well.

alexmtl

Twin turbocharged 6 cylinders. 430hp, 370lb-ft, under 3,306 lb (1500kg) weight: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=892746

alexmtl

It's actually a heavily tweaked version of the N55, but with 2 turbos. Redline is said above 7500rpms: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=893935

Haha I've been following this all along :P

ab0bab0i

Also the N54 engine is open deck while the new M3's are closed deck engines.

zibby43

The N54 had two turbos.

And I'm pretty sure the new engine shares more in common with the N54 than the N55 but I could be wrong.

Edit: It's primarily derived from the N55, despite the fact that a twin-turbo design has been reimplemented.

MrMoo

Looking good! I like the colours too. I guess we are just waiting to see official pricing and specs. Wish Mercedes would release something soon on the AMG C classes.

Faris63

Looks good

Scottie46

I have been waiting for this car to come out for so many years. Glad to say I made the choice of being impatient and getting the c63. Love the body, it's outstanding and beautiful IMO. But the engine....very disappointed. Especially with the torque numbers on the turbos, and the small horsepower jump. AND the redline and high end lack of power. Finally got that off my chest. Woo

SMP

All new S55 engine with M5/M6 DCT but shorter final drive … electric power steering, carbon fiber roof, trunk lid (coupe only), driveshaft and strut bar … if the M4 indeed comes in at 3300 lbs … 424hp and 369 ft-lb torque should make it a great performer!

natman316

damn love that it will be so light! everything is sick except fake sounds, under powered engine(im sure can be fixed with a tune) and EPS. WHY EPS!?

SMP

Electric power steering is more efficient because it doesn't drain engine power. My F10 M5 has it … takes a little time to get used to, but I like it … 3 settings for steering: Comfort, sport and sport+ … M3/M4 will have an electronic LSD as well. Not sure if M3/M4 will use energy recovery system, which M5/M6 has.

USCGTO

3300 lbs is VERY low.

You need to realize it's 500 lbs lower than the current C63 (maybe more). MB has it's work cut up for it.

alexmtl

Also for those who say it's underpowered, it has the same power to weight ratio than C63 507.. Just because it's so light!

Kaiba

M4 looks great. M3 is just the same as previous version .... no ????

ddcha

I find the front and rear bumpers really odd. Reminds me of Darth Vader's helmet.

noodleman

the rear fenders...wish the C63 had that!

jarjoug

I like the M4, but the M3 just looks weird to me.

callmiro

Is that an active Spoiler in the front bumper....the left side looks down and the right side looks up?

forcefed6.4ford

I noticed that too. But looking through the pics on Topgear's release. It's just an illusion.

callmiro

I think you're right

forcefed6.4ford

I will say this. It's a very striking car. I am also happy with the interior.