callmiro

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...edes-amg-gt-s/










The 2015 Mercedes-AMG GT has yet to be revealed and already, some lucky people have been able to ride inside a brightly camouflaged prototype. Automobile Magazine was one of those fortunate organisations and has confirmed the existence of two AMG GT variants.


First off is the entry-level 2015 Mercedes-AMG GT. It features a 4.0-litre biturbo V8 engine delivering 455 hp. The range-topping model is then the Mercedes-AMG GT-S with it featuring the previously confirmed 503 hp engine. Due to the presence of two different models at launch, the new Mercedes-AMG GT will be able to properly compete with the Porsche 911 range as well as the Jaguar F-Type line-up.


\Alongside confirmation of the two different variations, we now know for sure that the Mercedes-AMG GT features conventional doors rather than the gullwing ones featured on the SLS AMG which this car effectively replaces even though it does aim to supersede the SLS.


Sticky Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres will come standard on both models with the entry-level model features a conventional limited-slip differential and 19-inch wheels at all four corners and rubber measuring 255/35 at the front and 295/30 at the rear. By comparison, the 2015 Mercedes-AMG GT-S features a more advanced E-diff as well as wider 265/35 tyres at the front and 20-inch wheels with 295/30 Pilot Super Sports at the rear.


Despite having less power than the SLS AMG, Automobile Magazine says that riding in the car, it is definitely faster than the SLS with it also feeling more planted particularly at the front end.

rage2

Reading the article, they seemed to have tamed it down from a SLS, more grip, easier to recover. But that's what made the SLS so much fun to drive. Let's just hope there's still some soul left in the final product.

callmiro

It's a little weird that the Jag F Type R Coupe comes out with 550HP out of the gates and for easily $50k cheaper.


Not the best of news for the C63 as well if this is a sign of the power to come, especially with the next CTS-V coming out with around 600HP


And YES.....to me....HP is everything....at that price.

emericr

Great write up and I really hope the base model comes in with reasonable options at F type pricing level and the S model at less than base Turbo pricing. I am probably day dreaming...
I just drove the R type and it makes a compelling case for itself. It growls like an angry cat, the interior is nicely finished and performance is impressive.
However, unless the S has a feather weight, 503hp is not going to be a competitor for the Turbo model so we may have to wait for the black series.

roadtalontsi

i cant say i ever thought the sls had a grip problem, it has so little torque and so much weight on the rear tires they dont spin unless you're trying to make them. It'll be interesting to see the benz owner's response to them trying to get serious in the performance department and drift from the luxury side. Some want their cake and like to eat it too. I can only hope the future owners understand that. I know me personally I love this, but i think most amg owners like the thought of knowing the car is powerful and capable they just dont like to use that side. C63 is by far the most hardcore amg other than the black series and but this car definitely isn't quite in the price range for most of us.

OC6.3AMG

I hope that the GT/ GT-S are about 5-600 lbs lighter than the SLS. Since I drove the Jaguar R Coupe, and getting mind F***'d by its intoxicating sound, I've been having problems convincing myself not to get one.

ab0bab0i

Not sure how much the AMG-GT is gonna cost, but Carrera S optioned out is ~$120k and only has 400hp.

whoover

They have to be thinking about the 911 Turbo S. $183k (although it can go a lot higher with options). 560 HP and under 2.9 second 0-60 with insane handling. Weight is everything. AMG can match the power easily enough but the Porsche weighs 3,500 pounds.

otakki

Hopefully the same 650 hp and 650 lb-ft from the Z06 will also carry over. At the same time, I doubt that.

jrcart

Wow, 455hp is weak! 505 for the S does not sound too impressive either, unless this thing weighs in around 3000 pounds. I am on the list to get one of the first ones in North America but on the fence right now until I get more data.

abcut973

Yeah that seems to be pretty low numbers on the AMG side. Not too sure to understand the direction the brand is going to
Hopefully we'll get more positive info soon.

whoover

I don't see it as brand confusion. I think that AMG engineers are used to large displacements, and are having some growing pains providing lots of low end torque and power from the limited displacement they have to work with now. Porsche gets 560 HP from 3.8 liters. 455 or 505 HP from a 4.0 liter V-8 is not competitive. They will have to do better and they will.

RawBenz

Ummm what the f*ck is that blue car in your post?? That's ****!

roadtalontsi

Well considering the sls was 3500lbs i dont see this car being much if any lighter. There's already a big compromise in road noise and insulation in the sls. Keep in mind this 4.0L v8 tt is based off of combining 2 of the 2.0L engines in the cla/a 45. Meaning 350hp.... = 700hp w/tune should be attainable fairly easily. However i do agree if they dropped this thing down to 3000lbs and dct transaxle setup like the sls it would make for an amazing car.

Those new jags do look amazing. I cant wait to test drive one.

ab0bab0i

Jaguar F-Type Coupe

jrcart

I do not think this is the case at all, AMG just built the most powerful production 4 cylinder engine and most power per liter engine ever offered in a production car with he CLA45 2.0L motor.

rage2

The key to a turbocharged motor is flexibility. Sure AMG has only announced a 455 and 505hp version of the motor, but it's not difficult to scale out to a 600 or even 700hp version down the line.

callmiro

Hopefully it will be sooner...rather than later


Even the HellCun+ is coming with 707HP and 650 lb/ft

black-clk500

I'm going to take a look at getting a GT or GT-S to replace my 991 in a years time.
I'm coming to love my 991 (former c63 p31 owner)
The "only" 400hp in my 911S propels the car just fine (weighs around 3300lbs) --it is much faster than my c63, but I do miss the trq and the drifting in my c63--the 911 just sticks with those 305s out back, damn she breaks 100MPH very quick.
I may go GT3 or TurboS, just depends on what I can justify spending--I may go for used f-car too (too many great cars out there).
I sure hope the GT AMG is not a flop, it better be light with those hp numbers.
I love the brand!

jrcart

I am still waiting to hear an official curb weight. If this thing weighs in around 3000 pounds 505hp should be plenty. A weistec tune and some turbo upgrades and it will be at 650+hp.

Need4Speed

interesting article.

I agree with JR.

Curb Weight has a lot to do and if it weighs in at 1 1/2 tons then a little fun under the hood and you have a monster

whoover

You don't think what is the case? That the announced HP are low for a TT 4.0 in today's market, e.g., compared with the Porsche 3.8 that delivers 560 hp and tons of torque.

Or that AMG engineers haven't fully grokked this technology? The alternative is that they chose to go with low relative outputs on purpose for some reason?

I also said that they will certainly gain experience and this engine will produce a lot more power in future versions. Do you disagree with that.

I don't mean to sound argumentative. I just don't understand how "all" of what I said is even controversial.

alexmtl

Well I guess it will depend on the pricing... But yeah I'm very sure they can squeeze a lot more power than this.

whoover

The other thing that doesn't make sense is comparing the 455 hp to the CLA45 and its 355 hp. Slap on a second four cylinders and get another 100 hp? Nothing about this makes sense. Could it be a disinformation campaign?

Ingenieur

This is going to be a very good engine
To reduce fuel consumption they lower peak power
But the torque is higher over a wider band
While using less fuel
It will have close to m156 torque at the 6250 power peak!

It's a new day

Displacement 3982 cc, maximum power output 510 horsepower at 6250 rpm, maximum torque 650 newton meters [480 lb-ft] between 1750 and 4750 rpm, redline at 7200 rpm, maximum boost pressure 1.2 bar, top speed 194 mph, average consumption 9.3 liters per 100 kilometers.

What's the mpg? Lol surprise