Petronas Oil
03-17-2015, 11:44 AM
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Petronas Oil
Does anyone here use Petronas oil? I feel like since they partner with AMG in F1 they probably make good stuff.
Why would AMG not push their F1 partner on their cars? Instead they push Mobil
Why would AMG not push their F1 partner on their cars? Instead they push Mobil
03-17-2015, 12:13 PM
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Been using the Petronas now for about 12k miles, just had its second service with it and uses less now between fill ups than the Mobil before, little bit quieter too.
This stuff :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Petronas-S...item4d26b8a3f4
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03-17-2015, 01:19 PM
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It all depends on their partnership agreement with Petronas, and their existing deal with Exxon Mobil. The F1 team and the road car divisions are probably run separately.
03-17-2015, 06:54 PM
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Is use petronas syntium 7000, Ik don't use my car a lot but never have ticking valves at start up
03-18-2015, 10:00 AM
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Petronas Syntium 7000 0W40 is on the approved 229.5 list.
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show
Petronas Syntium 3000 AV 5W40 is on the 229.31;229.51 lists and is not approved for our cars in NA (only approved for Western Europe)
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...1&suchbegriff=
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_223_2.pdf
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...nt_action=show
Petronas Syntium 3000 AV 5W40 is on the 229.31;229.51 lists and is not approved for our cars in NA (only approved for Western Europe)
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...1&suchbegriff=
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_223_2.pdf
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03-18-2015, 02:38 PM
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This has already been discussed extensively - just do a search for engine oil in this forum and you'll find lots of info.
And, just because Petronas decided to throw 5h!tl0ad5 of advertising money into the MB F1 team, it doesnt make their lubricants in any way, shape or form better than those produced by Exxon Mobil. Besides, the lubrication requirements of an F1 engine are so different from the lubrication requirements of a street vehicle that comparing the two is really like comparing apples and oranges. Just because they may make the F1 oil, it doesn't follow that they make good stuff for street use. Pratt & Whitney makes great jet engines and Lockheed Martin-Boeing makes great rocket engines that are used in the Atlas V rocket (well, the second stage at least - the first stage is actually a Russian RD-180), but that doesn't mean that they make great car engines.
The BEVO approved Petronas 0W40 (Syntium 7000) is still inferior to Mobil 1's 0W40 in every respect. Just look at the two spec sheets.
And, just because Petronas decided to throw 5h!tl0ad5 of advertising money into the MB F1 team, it doesnt make their lubricants in any way, shape or form better than those produced by Exxon Mobil. Besides, the lubrication requirements of an F1 engine are so different from the lubrication requirements of a street vehicle that comparing the two is really like comparing apples and oranges. Just because they may make the F1 oil, it doesn't follow that they make good stuff for street use. Pratt & Whitney makes great jet engines and Lockheed Martin-Boeing makes great rocket engines that are used in the Atlas V rocket (well, the second stage at least - the first stage is actually a Russian RD-180), but that doesn't mean that they make great car engines.
The BEVO approved Petronas 0W40 (Syntium 7000) is still inferior to Mobil 1's 0W40 in every respect. Just look at the two spec sheets.
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03-18-2015, 02:40 PM
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This has already been discussed extensively - just do a search for engine oil in this forum and you'll find lots of info.
And, just because Petronas decided to throw 5h!tl0ad5 of advertising money into the MB F1 team, it doesnt make their lubricants in any way, shape or form better than those produced by ExxonMobil. Besides, the lubrication requirements of an F1 engine are so different from the lurbrication requirements of a street vehicle that comparing the two is really like comparing apples and oranges. Just because they may make the F1 oil, it doesn't follow that they make good stuff for street use. Pratt & Whitney makes great jet engines and Lockheed Martin-Boeing makes great rocket engines that are used in the Atlas V rocket (well, the second stage at least - the first stage is actually a Russian RD-180), but that doesn't mean that they make great car engines.
The BEVO approved Petronas 0W40 is still inferior to Mobil 1's 0W40 in every respect.
And, just because Petronas decided to throw 5h!tl0ad5 of advertising money into the MB F1 team, it doesnt make their lubricants in any way, shape or form better than those produced by ExxonMobil. Besides, the lubrication requirements of an F1 engine are so different from the lurbrication requirements of a street vehicle that comparing the two is really like comparing apples and oranges. Just because they may make the F1 oil, it doesn't follow that they make good stuff for street use. Pratt & Whitney makes great jet engines and Lockheed Martin-Boeing makes great rocket engines that are used in the Atlas V rocket (well, the second stage at least - the first stage is actually a Russian RD-180), but that doesn't mean that they make great car engines.
The BEVO approved Petronas 0W40 is still inferior to Mobil 1's 0W40 in every respect.
well said, was thinking exactly the same. Sponsoring an f1 team and making oil for that doesn't mean its better for our cars
03-18-2015, 04:21 PM
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It sure doesn't, but if owners experience's are good, and have also been recommended by a trusted (UK) independent then it's not just about the PR / association.
Been happy since my switch over that was all I meant ;-)
Been happy since my switch over that was all I meant ;-)
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03-18-2015, 09:10 PM
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We did - some dealer told someone that supposedly it was "jointly developed" by Shell and Petronas, which is complete BS (and I don't mean Black Series). Aside from two offshore oil recovery projects in Malaysia (Sarawak and Sabah), the two comapnies have nothing to do with eath other.
As for the quality of the Petronas 0W40 oil, it is by no means bad (someone here did a VOA analysis a few weeks ago), and the analysis showed it is in line with other energy efficient and environmentally friendly oils. It is BEVO 229.5 approved, so by all means it's safe for use in the C63. It's just that it's not the best approved oil in terms of engine protection, which is presumably what the goal for most car owners is. I suspect that if energy efficiency and environmental friendliness were higher on someone's list than engine protection, they would not be driving a car with a 6.2L naturally aspirated motor in the first place.
I really don't get all the resistance against Mobil 1. The old Formula M and all other grades are in part hydrocracked dino juice and no better than the rest of the offerings on the market. The 0W40 on the other hand is the only one that's fully synthetic, has the best additive package and is really in a category by itself. I don't know why people are constantly looking for anternatives. Can someone enlighten me? I am not being sarcastic - I realy want to know why people keep looking at other inferior stuff when you can buy something objectively better for the same amount of money.
As for the quality of the Petronas 0W40 oil, it is by no means bad (someone here did a VOA analysis a few weeks ago), and the analysis showed it is in line with other energy efficient and environmentally friendly oils. It is BEVO 229.5 approved, so by all means it's safe for use in the C63. It's just that it's not the best approved oil in terms of engine protection, which is presumably what the goal for most car owners is. I suspect that if energy efficiency and environmental friendliness were higher on someone's list than engine protection, they would not be driving a car with a 6.2L naturally aspirated motor in the first place.
I really don't get all the resistance against Mobil 1. The old Formula M and all other grades are in part hydrocracked dino juice and no better than the rest of the offerings on the market. The 0W40 on the other hand is the only one that's fully synthetic, has the best additive package and is really in a category by itself. I don't know why people are constantly looking for anternatives. Can someone enlighten me? I am not being sarcastic - I realy want to know why people keep looking at other inferior stuff when you can buy something objectively better for the same amount of money.
03-18-2015, 09:54 PM
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Don't believe a word someone at the dealership says. I just had my local dealer tell me the 2016 E Class was getting an interior update that will included a tablet style nav screen.
Petronas is the Malaysian state owned oil company. The don't have the infrastructure to support sales to a dealer network in the US
Petronas is the Malaysian state owned oil company. The don't have the infrastructure to support sales to a dealer network in the US
