MBAdon

I've still got the original 2009 software in my C63 and would like to install a newer version. Anyone willing to loan me the disks for a fee?

Thanks!

yellows2k

from what ive read, and i might be wrong, but its not a simple insert and away u go. if u have a very old version of the nav, then u need to slowly update version by version as jumping too far ahead can create issues. ive also read that some people have found no problems jumping many years.

also, ive read that the nav disks are coded to each vin, now whether this is true or not, i havent tried myself, but ive read this numerous times.
then again, u can buy pirated versions online, so obviously they either cracked it or its bs.
mine is a 2012, and i can get access to a 2015, but i dont see a need as our roads dont change that much

unagi1

I've got NAV disks for E/C class 2015, but can't apply to either 2014 507 due to VIN encoding. And it won't apply to my 2011 C-class as it's the wrong rev

otakki

These automakers' Nav systems are one of those examples in life where you certainly don't get what you pay for. Just look at the capabilities of a Garmin or TomTom and do a comparison. Carmakers need to outsource these type of things like they have outsourced braking systems to Brembo.

unagi1

Eventually the Auto Android, etc. train will catch up to MB -- they are just being slow to adopt. The demographic of MB owners clamoring for this latest tech is definitely in the minority

Exhibit13

The pre-facelift models nav are not VIN coded and can be passed around, though this is piracy and illegal it is physically possible on the pre-facelift c-class. Also you can jump from any version there is no need to do incremental. From what I have read (haven't done it personally yet) you just insert the disk and it starts copying data to the internal HD, once this is complete you will never need the disks again. It is a very slow process and takes something like 2 hours to complete though!

Exhibit13

They do, Your nav data in your c is made by one of the big nav companies not MB. Look at the disk and the copyrights in your headunit.

MBAdon

Sounds like quite an ordeal. $250 is pretty ridiculous for a software update though.

Exhibit13

I agree the holy grail is coming but slowly. We should be able to use our existing phone (no matter the platform) be that Android, Windows mobile, iPhone even blackberry and basically miracast the phones nav app, Pandora app, etc on the cars display by wifi/bluetooth. No cables, no "only works with android" or whatever platform. This would allow true phone integration and allow the cars tech to always be up to date and evolve.


As it works now makes no sense at all.

Exhibit13

I agree, and this may be an unpopular statement but I really feel that for the most part, greed is what creates piracy. If the cost was reasonable I feel less people would share disks but because they try to screw you it makes it worth it to have 5 people chip in $50 and buy the disks, kinda to screw them back if you will.


I personally have never updated my cars nav because I use my phone (always up to date maps and free) If the MB update disk was like $50 I probably would have updated it just because it was so cheap and why not but because of their greed I refuse to update it. They should be trying to sell quantity of the disks at 1/5 the price not a few sold and we killed the customers wallet. They need to think of it as more of a value added service than a revenue stream, even though I bet if they sold them cheaper they would clear more $ because they would sell 10 times more copies. That's just my .02 anyway!

ezshift5

..agree w/ the bay area .02........

..Garmin/Smartphone works fine. Appreciate the built-in NAV (but then again I went CPO).

Great looking car (but over equipped from many standpoints - IMHO that is............


ez sends

AMG6.3

$250 is really not that bad if you want the latest maps you have an AMG for godsake. It willbe one of the most cheapeast upgrades you can do.

yellows2k

the oem price in australia is aud$750 for the nav disk. do u think thats reasonable. do u think that is one of the cheapest upgrade for "your amg".
didnt think so.
yes, we get screwed in australia. which is why i havent upgraded. i personally dont use the nav much as i generally drive the same roads, and the times i do use it, its not that different from the older maps

Jasonoff

So paying for a product that has 600+% markup is ok because AMG?

AMG6.3

My point is that $250 is not alot of money. I have no idea the cost to produce and don't particularly care. What next $150 oil change is to much....

unagi1

It's not a lot of money here in US, but still $250 for an inferior product, that has no flexibility in licensing options. I buy MS Office for home, can install in multiple machines plus I get updates, just as an example.

The fact that I have to go get 3 separate discs, plus the ridiculous load times makes this a very archaic business model for software delivery, IMO.

SaphGreyC63

It is alot of money for one reason....its just a software update. Once they create it, it literally costs them nothing to install it for you. And they have to create it anyway for the new cars they are pumping out.

We receive free updates for so many softwares, apps, etc. Why shouldn't this be the same? Hell at least give us a free update every year when we do our oil changes at the dealer! At the very least I should be able to go do a new update for free while the car is still under the 4 year 40K manufacturers warranty. That sounds reasonable and fair to me.

If I am not mistaken in the 2015 and on, its placed on a memory card and it runs off that. In other words, the dealer can swap out the memory cards in a couple seconds, so the process is quite fast these days (not on older models though)

Jasonoff

Actually, the point is that your point was pointless.

You've pretty much said you'd be fine paying $250 for a part for your AMG that's only $50 for a regular C class, same part number. You know, because AMG, oh and because $250 isn't a lot of money.

Your oil change reference would have been a good example if bargain basement materials were used. However, that's not the case so it's basically just verbal diarrhea...

Thanks for your input though.

DiscoBandit

So back to these discs...I have a pre FL car so if anyone has updated discs they would lend/rent out, PM me...

yellows2k

disco, please keep us updated if u actually get around to this as i want to know if u actually get this working