V5'd!!!
10-13-2015, 01:17 AM
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V5'd!!!
Yet another EC V5 tune review!
Received the handheld today after a long wait. Placed my order last Wed and received it today. Since I have been spoiled my Amazon Prime, I'm not used to waiting so long for a shipment!
My handheld was already configured so I skipped the whole initial activation step. Updating the handheld and software took some time. Minor hiccups here and there. I then connected it to my car and was able to download the stock file (again a few minor hiccups, nothing major worth noting).
It was already 8pm pst when I sent my stock file to Jerry. By 8:30pm pst, I received the V5 tune. Did not expect such a quick turnaround. Installing the tune on the car was very straightforward. Took 2-3 mins to install.
I took the car for a short drive. And all I can say is HOLY ****!!!!
I have almost no experience with performance tuning. But even I could instantly feel the difference. I only played around with S and M modes (not yet tried C and S+). But even in S mode, the car feels amazing. The exhaust sound during upshifts are great (not too much of a difference) but the downshifts are phenomenal. Throttle response is much better. And in M mode, the exhaust notes during downshifting from 4-3 and 3-2 are simply brilliant!!! You can easily scare people while downshifting!
Need to drive the car a little more in C and S+ but so far I'm very impressed.
FYI, I have a 2014 non-PP sedan with the factory LSD.
Fantastic job guys at Eurocharged! Amazing product and awesome customer service!
And thank you to this forum for all the great info regarding this tune.
Received the handheld today after a long wait. Placed my order last Wed and received it today. Since I have been spoiled my Amazon Prime, I'm not used to waiting so long for a shipment!
My handheld was already configured so I skipped the whole initial activation step. Updating the handheld and software took some time. Minor hiccups here and there. I then connected it to my car and was able to download the stock file (again a few minor hiccups, nothing major worth noting).
It was already 8pm pst when I sent my stock file to Jerry. By 8:30pm pst, I received the V5 tune. Did not expect such a quick turnaround. Installing the tune on the car was very straightforward. Took 2-3 mins to install.
I took the car for a short drive. And all I can say is HOLY ****!!!!
I have almost no experience with performance tuning. But even I could instantly feel the difference. I only played around with S and M modes (not yet tried C and S+). But even in S mode, the car feels amazing. The exhaust sound during upshifts are great (not too much of a difference) but the downshifts are phenomenal. Throttle response is much better. And in M mode, the exhaust notes during downshifting from 4-3 and 3-2 are simply brilliant!!!
You can easily scare people while downshifting! Need to drive the car a little more in C and S+ but so far I'm very impressed.
FYI, I have a 2014 non-PP sedan with the factory LSD.
Fantastic job guys at Eurocharged! Amazing product and awesome customer service!
And thank you to this forum for all the great info regarding this tune.
Last edited by sriniAMG; 10-13-2015 at 09:22 AM.
10-13-2015, 03:26 AM
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Congrats Srini!
I am curious how the tune changes downshifts. I thought the V5 tune was ECU only and did not do anything to the TCU? If so, how does it change upshifts / downshifts?
I am curious how the tune changes downshifts. I thought the V5 tune was ECU only and did not do anything to the TCU? If so, how does it change upshifts / downshifts?
10-13-2015, 04:28 AM
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It doesn't. It is ECU only. People say the funniest things, but the only difference is the exhaust pops more on downshifting and throttle lag is removed. Eurocharger doesnt have a transmission tune. They went into great detail with me about it. I have seen a lot of people on here swear that the shifting is so much better with the V5, but it is the same. There are other compaines that do have one, but not Eurocharger.
10-13-2015, 09:18 AM
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Sorry if my post was misleading... Like mazspeed mentioned I was referring to the exhaust sound when downshifting... The transmission/gear shifting is still the same... But the car is definitely a lot more aggressive!
10-13-2015, 09:24 AM
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It doesn't. It is ECU only. People say the funniest things, but the only difference is the exhaust pops more on downshifting and throttle lag is removed. Eurocharger doesnt have a transmission tune. They went into great detail with me about it. I have seen a lot of people on here swear that the shifting is so much better with the V5, but it is the same. There are other compaines that do have one, but not Eurocharger.
Like you mentioned, I only meant the exhaust sound while downshifting.
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10-14-2015, 05:29 PM
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It doesn't. It is ECU only. People say the funniest things, but the only difference is the exhaust pops more on downshifting and throttle lag is removed. Eurocharger doesnt have a transmission tune. They went into great detail with me about it. I have seen a lot of people on here swear that the shifting is so much better with the V5, but it is the same. There are other compaines that do have one, but not Eurocharger.
I think the tune does more than just exhaust pops and throttle lag. I am told it actually adds 50-60 hp even for a bone stock car running 93 octane?
10-14-2015, 06:12 PM
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10-18-2015, 10:51 PM
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It's closer to 80-90 hp extra. The tune from the factory is kept low for various reasons, but these aftermarket tunes open it up substantially.
10-19-2015, 12:16 PM
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Tuners can adjust the shifts..i mean how else does my EC V5 and OE Custom tune hit 7500 RPM ..Because i told the tuners I wanted it too..you guys can get the tuners to do whatever adjustments you like..idk why 90% of guys on this forum think a off the shelf tune is the end be all for tuning..EC gives you a reliable solid tune without pushing the limits. The reason they don't screw with the shifts usually is because most people have no clue how to shift or drive a C63 in stock form yet alone tuned.
10-19-2015, 03:36 PM
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Tuners can adjust the shifts..i mean how else does my EC V5 and OE Custom tune hit 7500 RPM ..Because i told the tuners I wanted it too..you guys can get the tuners to do whatever adjustments you like..idk why 90% of guys on this forum think a off the shelf tune is the end be all for tuning..EC gives you a reliable solid tune without pushing the limits. The reason they don't screw with the shifts usually is because most people have no clue how to shift or drive a C63 in stock form yet alone tuned.
10-20-2015, 11:44 AM
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they can change shift points though or adjust a few things in shifting im sure ..redline stock is 7250 rpm and a few of us on this forum have had the RPM limit raised to 7500+ so they obviously have some accessibility with the shifts but chose not to tamper with it too much,
10-20-2015, 11:59 AM
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they can change shift points though or adjust a few things in shifting im sure ..redline stock is 7250 rpm and a few of us on this forum have had the RPM limit raised to 7500+ so they obviously have some accessibility with the shifts but chose not to tamper with it too much,
10-22-2015, 11:54 AM
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I was told by them, that it does. Most tunes will tighten up the efficiency on the cars with their tunes. I cannot verify this myself as I didn't test before or after tune, nor did I dyno a before or after either, but others have. I would not buy a tune based on it's improvement of MPG as it will not make a big difference, but having said that, it is or should be a very small improvement.
10-22-2015, 11:59 AM
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Daily driving to work (70% freeway 30% city), I average around 14-15mpg. I got the same even before EC tune.
I recently drove to Irvine from San Diego (100% freeway), I got close to 22mpg. Thought that was pretty impressive. Cruising at 70-80mph all the way.
I think you will actually see your mpg drop once you get the EC tune. Not because of the tune, but because of the way you'll start driving
It also makes a big difference depending on C, S, S+ or M.
10-22-2015, 04:46 PM
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I was told by them, that it does. Most tunes will tighten up the efficiency on the cars with their tunes. I cannot verify this myself as I didn't test before or after tune, nor did I dyno a before or after either, but others have. I would not buy a tune based on it's improvement of MPG as it will not make a big difference, but having said that, it is or should be a very small improvement.
If MPG drops from 16-17 now to 14-15, sure, that's no problem. But if it drops to 9-10, that would be drastic and something I can't live with. That's my question.
10-22-2015, 04:53 PM
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You misunderstand my question!! I meant MPG drop, not MPG improvement. Its funny that anyone would think MPG would improve post tune, haha.
If MPG drops from 16-17 now to 14-15, sure, that's no problem. But if it drops to 9-10, that would be drastic and something I can't live with. That's my question.
If MPG drops from 16-17 now to 14-15, sure, that's no problem. But if it drops to 9-10, that would be drastic and something I can't live with. That's my question.
I got it, but from what I know about these tunes and I could very much be wrong. I'm sort of an old school racer, mechanical Fuel Injection and blow through stuff, but from what I do know about air/fuel is that they lean it out a bit on the tune to get closer to 12.5 to 13.0 A/F mixtures which would also help get you more power depending on timing and whatnot. I may be wrong, but from what I understood under non heavy load conditions is that you will increase your MPG in normal driving.
10-22-2015, 04:57 PM
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Honestly, I've not seen any big difference. It really depends on how you drive and freeway/city driving.
Daily driving to work (70% freeway 30% city), I average around 14-15mpg. I got the same even before EC tune.
I recently drove to Irvine from San Diego (100% freeway), I got close to 22mpg. Thought that was pretty impressive. Cruising at 70-80mph all the way.
I think you will actually see your mpg drop once you get the EC tune. Not because of the tune, but because of the way you'll start driving
It also makes a big difference depending on C, S, S+ or M.
Daily driving to work (70% freeway 30% city), I average around 14-15mpg. I got the same even before EC tune.
I recently drove to Irvine from San Diego (100% freeway), I got close to 22mpg. Thought that was pretty impressive. Cruising at 70-80mph all the way.
I think you will actually see your mpg drop once you get the EC tune. Not because of the tune, but because of the way you'll start driving
It also makes a big difference depending on C, S, S+ or M.
I got it, but from what I know about these tunes and I could very much be wrong. I'm sort of an old school racer, mechanical Fuel Injection and blow through stuff, but from what I do know about air/fuel is that they lean it out a bit on the tune to get closer to 12.5 to 13.0 A/F mixtures which would also help get you more power depending on timing and whatnot. I may be wrong, but from what I understood under non heavy load conditions is that you will increase your MPG in normal driving.
10-22-2015, 05:27 PM
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Yes, nice people for sure, but they are promoting their products, but I have not seen any reason the doubt them. But if the gas mileage does decrease, its because of your right foot. Like mine.
