Offset and wheel question
10-26-2015, 10:26 AM
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Offset and wheel question
Hello everyone i have a w204 c63 coupe and theres a set of rims that are front 19x8.5 +45 offset and rear 19x9.5 +48 offset so my question is what size spacers would i need to use to make the wheels flush?"if i need spacers" Im not educated on this so anyone that could help is greatly appreciated. Also could i run 275s on rear without rubbin?
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10-26-2015, 11:28 AM
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^ This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, just ignore that
In front, you're probably going to have to go with a 20mm to get fully flush. You should be pretty flush in back without spacers. 275 rear will fit fine if you're not lowered.
In front, you're probably going to have to go with a 20mm to get fully flush. You should be pretty flush in back without spacers. 275 rear will fit fine if you're not lowered.
10-26-2015, 04:25 PM
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As for the rear, 19x9.5 +48mm is flush but be prepare to have occasionnal rubbing on the passenger rear with 275. If u are not lowered & don't have rear passengers often, u should be fine. Or try to find a tire that runs narrow with rounded sidewalls otherwise +50mm & up is better.
10-26-2015, 05:13 PM
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20mm in front to make it flush? That's too much. 19x8.5 +45 only needs 10mm spacers to make it +35mm offset which is aggressive & flush already.
As for the rear, 19x9.5 +48mm is flush but be prepare to have occasionnal rubbing on the passenger rear with 275. If u are not lowered & don't have rear passengers often, u should be fine. Or try to find a tire that runs narrow with rounded sidewalls otherwise +50mm & up is better.
As for the rear, 19x9.5 +48mm is flush but be prepare to have occasionnal rubbing on the passenger rear with 275. If u are not lowered & don't have rear passengers often, u should be fine. Or try to find a tire that runs narrow with rounded sidewalls otherwise +50mm & up is better.
Slight rubbing is not big deal i rarely ever have a passenger not speaking of rear seats and im not planning on lowering it, gonna keep stock suspension. I really wanna fix the traction issues, the stock 255s are too narrow for its power. So my understanding is that the lower the offsett the more outwards the wheel is? And the higher the more inwards it is?
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10-26-2015, 05:23 PM
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20mm in front to make it flush? That's too much. 19x8.5 +45 only needs 10mm spacers to make it +35mm offset which is aggressive & flush already.
As for the rear, 19x9.5 +48mm is flush but be prepare to have occasionnal rubbing on the passenger rear with 275. If u are not lowered & don't have rear passengers often, u should be fine. Or try to find a tire that runs narrow with rounded sidewalls otherwise +50mm & up is better.
As for the rear, 19x9.5 +48mm is flush but be prepare to have occasionnal rubbing on the passenger rear with 275. If u are not lowered & don't have rear passengers often, u should be fine. Or try to find a tire that runs narrow with rounded sidewalls otherwise +50mm & up is better.
10-26-2015, 05:54 PM
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^^ are u sure they are 20mm spacers? That would makes ur wheels 19x8.5 +25 offset which is very aggressive on a regular body C63.
I might be wrong but from looking at ur pics, they don't look +25mm offset.
I might be wrong but from looking at ur pics, they don't look +25mm offset.
10-26-2015, 05:58 PM
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So on front i should get 10mm spacers?
Slight rubbing is not big deal i rarely ever have a passenger not speaking of rear seats and im not planning on lowering it, gonna keep stock suspension. I really wanna fix the traction issues, the stock 255s are too narrow for its power. So my understanding is that the lower the offsett the more outwards the wheel is? And the higher the more inwards it is?
Slight rubbing is not big deal i rarely ever have a passenger not speaking of rear seats and im not planning on lowering it, gonna keep stock suspension. I really wanna fix the traction issues, the stock 255s are too narrow for its power. So my understanding is that the lower the offsett the more outwards the wheel is? And the higher the more inwards it is?
I would suggest u 10mm spacers to make ur wheels 19x8.5 +35.. But now that BLKROKT is using 20mm, I'm confused lol
10-26-2015, 06:36 PM
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20mm on a 8.5 +45? Huh, I'm with you ros. Scratching thy head. But BLKROKT is no idiot and we know this as well.
I guess whatever floats your boat! Haha. The good news is spacers are cheap so if you don't like how far out a 10mm is just swap with 12/15/20 whatever.
I guess whatever floats your boat! Haha. The good news is spacers are cheap so if you don't like how far out a 10mm is just swap with 12/15/20 whatever.
10-26-2015, 08:08 PM
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Hey, I'm with you guys - I didn't think the 20mm would work either, but it's as flush as I can get it now with no rubbing. I was surprised I needed that much, as these were supposedly built to spec for the most aggressive stance possible in a 19 (I always wondered why they weren't flush in front, but didn't address it until recently). That would mean an effective offset in front of 25.
I just looked at my email confirming my Vorsteiner order from last year.
Either this is just what happens to work for me, or the offset is plain incorrect. I'll get to the bottom of it and come back.
I just looked at my email confirming my Vorsteiner order from last year.
During our conversation you stated you desired a 19x9 & 19x10 fitment.
This can be done however it seems to lead into a issue for the front of the vehicle where the 19x9 will cause clearance issues not with the brakes but the inner strut. This would lead to the following problems of either hitting the inner strut or a fitment that very well would stick out beyond the front fenders. This could still be done for you however it seems as there could not be a no rub guarantee as it is beyond recommended fitment directly from Vorsteiner.
After speaking to the engineers at Vorsteiner we have concluded that truly the best fitment that will not cause any rubbing or need for any sort of headache would be the following. This fitment will still provide proper traction, steering and enjoyment you desire.
Wheels: Vorsteiner VSC-101
Front: 19x8.5 5x112 ET 45 ( hubcentric)
Rear: 19x10 5x112 ET 52 ( hubcentric)
Finish: Matte Textured Bronze
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 275/30/19
This can be done however it seems to lead into a issue for the front of the vehicle where the 19x9 will cause clearance issues not with the brakes but the inner strut. This would lead to the following problems of either hitting the inner strut or a fitment that very well would stick out beyond the front fenders. This could still be done for you however it seems as there could not be a no rub guarantee as it is beyond recommended fitment directly from Vorsteiner.
After speaking to the engineers at Vorsteiner we have concluded that truly the best fitment that will not cause any rubbing or need for any sort of headache would be the following. This fitment will still provide proper traction, steering and enjoyment you desire.
Wheels: Vorsteiner VSC-101
Front: 19x8.5 5x112 ET 45 ( hubcentric)
Rear: 19x10 5x112 ET 52 ( hubcentric)
Finish: Matte Textured Bronze
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 275/30/19
Either this is just what happens to work for me, or the offset is plain incorrect. I'll get to the bottom of it and come back.
10-26-2015, 08:54 PM
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They are funny, 19x9 +40 fits perfectly flush & has no inner clearance issue whatsoever.. I'm currently running that set-up with 245/35/19.
My bet is they messed up ur front offset, u probably got 19x8.5 +50 or +55, so adding ur 20mm spacers would make sense. But who knows, I might be in the wrong.
My bet is they messed up ur front offset, u probably got 19x8.5 +50 or +55, so adding ur 20mm spacers would make sense. But who knows, I might be in the wrong.
10-26-2015, 09:15 PM
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Yeah at the time I didn't know better to push back on it. Think you are probably right that they screwed up the offset.
At the same time, and correct my math if I'm wrong here, if you're running 19x9 +40, and I'm running 19x8.5 +45 (supposedly), then you should initially be 5mm + 0.25" (~6mm) = ~11mm total further out than my front stance would be. I've got to look at your pics more closely, but it's not inconceivable that I'm 9mm further out than you are now with the 20mm spacers, esp since my car is not lowered.
At the same time, and correct my math if I'm wrong here, if you're running 19x9 +40, and I'm running 19x8.5 +45 (supposedly), then you should initially be 5mm + 0.25" (~6mm) = ~11mm total further out than my front stance would be. I've got to look at your pics more closely, but it's not inconceivable that I'm 9mm further out than you are now with the 20mm spacers, esp since my car is not lowered.
10-26-2015, 09:45 PM
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Maybe u are right, at stock height an extra 10mm outwards might not be that noticeable.
Here is a recent pic I took.. It's pretty flush & I have no more space for anything wider that's for sure.
Here is a recent pic I took.. It's pretty flush & I have no more space for anything wider that's for sure.
10-27-2015, 12:49 AM
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^Ooooof. Splooge
10-27-2015, 07:48 AM
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Yeah that looks dope
10-28-2015, 12:07 PM
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Thx guys for the compliments, but the credit goes to Team Wheel Boutique for building this set-up perfectly & to RalphSmithIII who was the original owner.
I didn't know I could run 19x9 +40 with 245 & 19x10 +50 with 275 lowered w/o rubbing until I got these wheels. Lol
Timur, yes IMO 10mm spacer with +45 = +35mm would be perfect. But again, 20mm worked on BLKROKT non-lowred car no problem (+25mm offset) so I dunno lol
I didn't know I could run 19x9 +40 with 245 & 19x10 +50 with 275 lowered w/o rubbing until I got these wheels. Lol
Timur, yes IMO 10mm spacer with +45 = +35mm would be perfect. But again, 20mm worked on BLKROKT non-lowred car no problem (+25mm offset) so I dunno lol
