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Old 12-16-2015, 02:29 PM
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SLS ECU Mapping for C63 507

I bought my 507 C63 with the intention of keeping it stock. And I know there are a lot of great ECU tunes/remapping available for this great engine. But I don't like the idea of risking my warranty if something catastrophic happens to the engine.

My gearhead friend is telling me that it's possible to apply the SLS tune to the C63. I think this is actually a possible mod for me given the fact that the 507 uses components from the SLS engine build. I'll feel better knowing that I'm using a factory tune.

Thoughts?

Also, anyone know where can I get my 507 tuned with the SLS mapping? I'm in Orange County, California.
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same thing as a tuned car. ur not running stock tune because you modified it.
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Originally Posted by G-Von
I bought my 507 C63 with the intention of keeping it stock. And I know there are a lot of great ECU tunes/remapping available for this great engine. But I don't like the idea of risking my warranty if something catastrophic happens to the engine.

My gearhead friend is telling me that it's possible to apply the SLS tune to the C63. I think this is actually a possible mod for me given the fact that the 507 uses components from the SLS engine build. I'll feel better knowing that I'm using a factory tune.

Thoughts?

Also, anyone know where can I get my 507 tuned with the SLS mapping? I'm in Orange County, California.
That sounds like a terrible idea. Before others chime in, if you are afraid of damaging your warranty, keep it stock..period.
Eurocharge offers a warranty with their tune and has a amazing reputation/customer service -http://www.eurocharged.com/warranty
Congrats on the purchase though .
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keep it stock until you read these forums
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Since you have a 507 edition, I would recommend keeping it stock. You're not looking at a huge hp gain with most of the tunes.
Maybe you can do the ROW boxes and dry filters so the engine breathes better.
If you really want a tune, I would recommend eurocharged too! Great guys to work with. I think there are few forum members on here that did the tune on their 507 editions and liked it. You might notice a slight increase in power, but you will definitely get better throttle response and also a slightly better exhaust sound.
Good luck and congrats on the purchase! Can never go wrong with a 507 edition!

PS: I have the eurocharged tune as well along with ROW boxes and dry filters. Love it!
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Hey guys, Phil here, the tune will be safe on the car. Since 08-09 we've had multiple customers go through all Versions (1-5) of our tune on their cars and put over 150,000 miles Tuned. However, the mygenius still gives you the ability to flash back to stock within 5 minutes so that you can take it into the dealer for warranty work. Below is a dyno graph of a Mechanically Stock C63 507 Edition that i did before/after here on our Dyno Jet in Houston. Feel free to email me with questions guys. Happy Holidays!

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Originally Posted by sales@eurocharged.com
Hey guys, Phil here, the tune will be safe on the car. Since 08-09 we've had multiple customers go through all Versions (1-5) of our tune on their cars and put over 150,000 miles Tuned. However, the mygenius still gives you the ability to flash back to stock within 5 minutes so that you can take it into the dealer for warranty work. Below is a dyno graph of a Mechanically Stock C63 507 Edition that i did before/after here on our Dyno Jet in Houston. Feel free to email me with questions guys. Happy Holidays!

What kind of gains do you see out of a 12 amg development Package? Will it be around 440whp?
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What kind of gains do you see out of a 12 amg development Package? Will it be around 440whp?
Yes it will end up around the same hp as the above graph
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However, the mygenius still gives you the ability to flash back to stock within 5 minutes so that you can take it into the dealer for warranty work.

So when you flash back to stock, there is absolutely no evidence at all that you had flashed the ECU in one way or another?

I've heard/read about other cars/tunes that would allow you to flash back to stock, however, there was a record of some sort, indicating that the ECU had been recently flashed and it was enough to void warranty work.
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So when you flash back to stock, there is absolutely no evidence at all that you had flashed the ECU in one way or another?

I've heard/read about other cars/tunes that would allow you to flash back to stock, however, there was a record of some sort, indicating that the ECU had been recently flashed and it was enough to void warranty work.
I work in a dealership it just depends on your relationship with tge dealership whether they report it or not. I'm fact one of the dealerships is a renntech vendor

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It also depends on what it being done. If you need an engine then you are toast. The process to get approval for an engine replacement is horrible. The documentation that has to be provided by the tech is going to have ecu logs in it. Some other repairs require certain logs to be submitted but it just depends. No tech is typically looking for flashed ecus or cares. Under normal repairs it will just go undetected with or without a tune. I have seen the Mercedes rep notice a car with mods in the shop before and take the vin down and request info about it to void the warranty but that is rare. Then you do have the righteous tech or two out there but most think fast cars are cool.
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So when you flash back to stock, there is absolutely no evidence at all that you had flashed the ECU in one way or another?

I've heard/read about other cars/tunes that would allow you to flash back to stock, however, there was a record of some sort, indicating that the ECU had been recently flashed and it was enough to void warranty work.
Like others have said, the dealers don't care and won't look for that. I have never read about a case of the dealer denying a fix due to an ecu flash. If you are super paranoid, you can always put it back to stock before going in to get work done (some members do this) but not necessary.
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Yeah simple warranty work nobody will care. The only time a motor replacement will be needed is if you have 08-09 and DONT change your headbolts (OEM Recall for anyone that didnt know) LOL
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Thanks for the replys, awesome forum so far!!

My concern with a ECU flash voiding warranty primarily revolves around engine repairs/replacement.

I would never expect it to come up during anything from squeaks/rattles to brakes or suspension.

But if the engine or some related part were to toast itself due to some unknown defect or act of god or whatever (basically not tune related), what evidence is there, if any, to void the warranty work if the ecu had been flashed with a Eurocharged map.


As far as mods, I would be keeping it very simple: Intake, maybe a tune, and maybe a catback exahust.

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Your 507 is not an SLS engine. It has forged pistons and rods from the SLS, that is it. The SLS has a different intake, oiling system and exhaust system. That is where the extra power is made, not the tune.

Go to the dealer and ask for an SLS tune so you keep your warranty, let us know what they say.
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Originally Posted by Merc63
Your 507 is not an SLS engine. It has forged pistons and rods from the SLS, that is it. The SLS has a different intake, oiling system and exhaust system. That is where the extra power is made, not the tune.

Go to the dealer and ask for an SLS tune so you keep your warranty, let us know what they say.
THIS.... and your gearhead friend is an idiot. You probably shouldnt listen to him, he has no idea what he is talking about.
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Yeah simple warranty work nobody will care. The only time a motor replacement will be needed is if you have 08-09 and DONT change your headbolts (OEM Recall for anyone that didnt know) LOL
Headbolts are a recall?
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Headbolts are a recall?
Yes, quick google search, I tried to find a proper link to send but couldnt find one. Only 08-09 models between certain build dates. Apparently even if your car was within those build dates it was still hard for Mercedes to warranty the work. That was the only weak point on these models.

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