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Old 06-06-2016, 08:00 PM
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^^ knowing Phil, I'm sure they are HRE reps made by Rota

I'll let him chime in on the truth lol
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Originally Posted by medamullet
what bags are you using?
AirRex Struts (FR/RR)
ACCUAIR E-Level Management

Originally Posted by medamullet
I love it. Bags are the practical way to go. No speed bump too big, no driveway you can't enter. just air up and go. With bags you can have it any ride height you want any time you want.


Looks real good Chow.
Yessir! Bags are more practical and being static, IMO. Granted, when I was static, I never had any trouble getting in and out of parking garages or anything anyways, and entrances were not friendly in HK for a lot of things.

The C63 is actually a relatively "low-friendly" car with it's short overhang I find.

Originally Posted by VR38DETT
hi Phil, what black wheels are these? they look awesome
Not sure which black wheels you're referring to?

I've had a set of OEM 19" Multispokes in Black, but yeah.

If you're referring to the wheels on the car, they're HRE P40SCs in Brushed Tinted Finish!

Originally Posted by Roswell
Love the new pics taken by ur shop. Do u still want to sell ur HRE ? Lol
If somebody wants to buy them at a reasonable price I think I would

Originally Posted by 8o8is
Looks great Phil! Love the adjustability of air. Did you have to roll your fenders?
Nope! Haven't touched my fenders at all. 100% OEM.

Originally Posted by medamullet
Air Lift is the company I have used in the past. I've used them for racing.


https://www.airliftperformance.com/?...m_campaign=ALC
I've used AirLift before on my VWs. Great bags, but, they don't make a lot of applications. Only for more popular vehicles.

Originally Posted by marcadelic
looks great mean! I think i follow you on instagram lol

Bags are the way to go if you have ****ty roads or are constantly going in and out of steep drive ways. If I didn't get such a deal on my BC coils I would deff have gone with a bagged set up again.

Don't like the way the bags look when you're aired out? just don't air out lol
Yup! I actually don't air out all that often. Maybe because I've bagged a bunch of cars prior to this.

Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Great question. Phil, I didn't know this was your car or else I'd have asked.

How does this compare to a good spring/strut combo? On the street, I'm sure it's quite comfortable, but how about pushing it hard in an on ramp/off ramp situation? How's bump steer, etc.? I am however, totally assuming that you push it, if not, that's totally cool too. Just thought I'd ask.
So, the car is a P30, but when I picked it up off my friend, it had regular Struts/Springs installed in it. I'm not going to lie, the OEM Suspension, isn't what I'd consider "Comfortable". Especially on the OEM 19s, it was actually quite crashy/rough.

I then upgraded to a set of KW DDC Coilovers. These felt great! Could control the dampening with a button/iPhone App, wasn't bad at all. Probably the best coils you can buy for the W204 Platform, IMO. For the street at least, for the track, there's obviously better.

I did push the car a fair bit on the DDCs, and I thought that it was pretty good IMO. Much better than stock in that aspect, in terms of body-roll, and stiffness, and how the car responds and what-not.

In regards to the air, in my honest humble opinion, I think it feels even better than the DDCs. The DDCs, over large swooping bumps, felt...floaty. Hard to describe the feeling. I'm sure you could fine tune this setting away, with you being able to adjust every little thing, but I didn't.

The AirRex Struts, are firm, but also soft enough to provide a comfortable ride for my passengers and I, and when pushed hard, they also hold up quite well. Would they do well on a track? I don't doubt it. AirRex races a bunch of Minis on the trakc in their race series with Air, so, their struts are built to last, and they do it quite well IMO.

Originally Posted by RLx02
How's the handling compared to stock with bags? I have a very steep driveway and have to attack it at an angle with my stock ride height car...considering bags for my next car.
I personally think it's better than stock. Read above for more detailed response.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:15 AM
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Damn. Did that take you an hour to read and make that giant response?
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Damn. Did that take you an hour to read and make that giant response?
Haha, nah, I type pretty quickly. Took about 5-minutes at most, haha.
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Originally Posted by Phil Chow

The AirRex Struts, are firm, but also soft enough to provide a comfortable ride for my passengers and I, and when pushed hard, they also hold up quite well. Would they do well on a track? I don't doubt it. AirRex races a bunch of Minis on the trakc in their race series with Air, so, their struts are built to last, and they do it quite well IMO.



I personally think it's better than stock. Read above for more detailed response.
Appreciate the response!
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Looks great Phil! Did you end up ordering those Depo FL tails?
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Originally Posted by Phil Chow

So, the car is a P30, but when I picked it up off my friend, it had regular Struts/Springs installed in it. I'm not going to lie, the OEM Suspension, isn't what I'd consider "Comfortable". Especially on the OEM 19s, it was actually quite crashy/rough.

I then upgraded to a set of KW DDC Coilovers. These felt great! Could control the dampening with a button/iPhone App, wasn't bad at all. Probably the best coils you can buy for the W204 Platform, IMO. For the street at least, for the track, there's obviously better.

I did push the car a fair bit on the DDCs, and I thought that it was pretty good IMO. Much better than stock in that aspect, in terms of body-roll, and stiffness, and how the car responds and what-not.

In regards to the air, in my honest humble opinion, I think it feels even better than the DDCs. The DDCs, over large swooping bumps, felt...floaty. Hard to describe the feeling. I'm sure you could fine tune this setting away, with you being able to adjust every little thing, but I didn't.

The AirRex Struts, are firm, but also soft enough to provide a comfortable ride for my passengers and I, and when pushed hard, they also hold up quite well. Would they do well on a track? I don't doubt it. AirRex races a bunch of Minis on the trakc in their race series with Air, so, their struts are built to last, and they do it quite well IMO.
Very interesting and detailed response. So it seems like your on the same page as what almost everyone says about bags. For the street, super comfortable and totally practical. For performance though, definitely falls short of a good spring/damper set up or coilover.
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Very interesting and detailed response. So it seems like your on the same page as what almost everyone says about bags. For the street, super comfortable and totally practical. For performance though, definitely falls short of a good spring/damper set up or coilover.
If I was going to track the car religiously, then yes, I would get a Coilover setup, but, for day-to-day driving, and hooning the car when I want to, bags are 100% the way to go.
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wow what a ride, that looks fantastic! Ferris Wheel shot is superb!
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That last pic does look amazing!
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Nice pics Phil! Cars look great.

Is it mandatory in HK to have yellow rear plates? Looks tacky lol
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Nice pics Phil! Cars look great.

Is it mandatory in HK to have yellow rear plates? Looks tacky lol
Yup! Front is White, Rear is Yellow.
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Yup! Front is White, Rear is Yellow.
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So...

Figured i'd give the car a bit of an update.

I was going to sell the car for an F80 M3, had two sales lined up, and then they fell through. Decided to keep the car instead, and then I ordered a Prior Design Black Series Conversion for the PreFL Sedan.

It's arrived already, but, in the mean-time, I've made some changes that can't be seen.

1) I added some Dynamat Hoodliner on the underside of my hood. Figured with the engine heat, it's best to maybe keep some of that heat away from the CF too.

2) Installed Spoon Rigid Collars for the Front/Rear. Subframe fix. Not sure if it really did a whole lot, but, I got them for a good price. Subframe Fixes worked quite well on my VWs before, so, that's that.

3) Installed a MBTruthNorth Front Strut Bar from Kriston! Thanks again!

4) Installed the Racing Mishimoto Thermostat and also did a coolant flush!

5) Installed DEPO Facelift Taillights.

6) Installed ThinkWare F750 Front/Rear Car Camera

7) Added additional 5-Gallon Air Tank in the Trunk!

8) Replaced 2x Rear 02 Sensors

Car is currently at the shop on a hoist. Had the VB/TCU sent to Eurocharged to get that modified, just like the Weistec one.

Will also be getting the car dyno tuned this upcoming weekend, Jerry from EC is making a stop in Hong Kong!

After the tuning, the car is going into the body-shop for the Wide Body! Will test-fit for perfect wheel fitment, and then will order my new wheels! ETA everything looking to be finished around sometime end of November/Early December! Long way, but, well worth it!

Paint/install will take about 1-Month, and then 4-6 Weeks to order wheels after!
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That sounds like a very nice build. Glad you decided to keep the C63, good choice.

Looking forward to the results.
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Excellent set up Phil. I personally like the look and think it was good you didn't get the f80 M3.

Side question: can you point me where to get your EXACT diffuser? Can you help me? The only big fin I can find has large overextended exhaust tip lips. I want that OEM look with bigger fins.
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This guy is going full out & complains he is too poor to buy a CF grill lol
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That sounds like a very nice build. Glad you decided to keep the C63, good choice.

Looking forward to the results.
Thanks bud! Hopefully will be done soon!

Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
Excellent set up Phil. I personally like the look and think it was good you didn't get the f80 M3.

Side question: can you point me where to get your EXACT diffuser? Can you help me? The only big fin I can find has large overextended exhaust tip lips. I want that OEM look with bigger fins.
Hmm, I picked it up from a local supplier. I could sell mine after the widebody if you're interested. Won't be expensive, as I'll have no use for it anymore.

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This guy is going full out & complains he is too poor to buy a CF grill lol
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Another photo.

This may be my all time fave pic.
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Love the look. I need those wheels...
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Love the look. I need those wheels...
They are for sale, this might be ur luck bro... I love my set!!
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