Buying a Weistec Stage 3 C63 Yes/Yes ?
06-09-2016, 09:08 PM
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Buying a Weistec Stage 3 C63 Yes/Yes ?
There's a c63 with 96,000 KM's on it (60k miles) that's got
Weistec stage 3 supercharger
Weistec head studs
Weistec built tranny
It's had the mods on it for 30k kms and I'm pretty sure it's been well loved.
I like how it had the headstuds done. Thats one less thing to worry about on these motors. I'm not sure if the owner did cams/buckets while he was in there.
I'm really excited about the vehicle. at an absolute bare minimum it's got 40whp on my modded e63s, and this c63 is just RWD.
What do other owners think, go for it, or should I do my own project car. This car is priced so its just slightly cheaper than a c63 and the supercharger, so the value is okay.
Has anyone else here owned one of these? It looks like a lot of fun.
Weistec stage 3 supercharger
Weistec head studs
Weistec built tranny
It's had the mods on it for 30k kms and I'm pretty sure it's been well loved.
I like how it had the headstuds done. Thats one less thing to worry about on these motors. I'm not sure if the owner did cams/buckets while he was in there.
I'm really excited about the vehicle. at an absolute bare minimum it's got 40whp on my modded e63s, and this c63 is just RWD.
What do other owners think, go for it, or should I do my own project car. This car is priced so its just slightly cheaper than a c63 and the supercharger, so the value is okay.
Has anyone else here owned one of these? It looks like a lot of fun.
06-09-2016, 09:18 PM
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There's a c63 with 96,000 KM's on it (60k miles) that's got
Weistec stage 3 supercharger
Weistec head studs
Weistec built tranny
It's had the mods on it for 30k kms and I'm pretty sure it's been well loved.
I like how it had the headstuds done. Thats one less thing to worry about on these motors. I'm not sure if the owner did cams/buckets while he was in there.
I'm really excited about the vehicle. at an absolute bare minimum it's got 40whp on my modded e63s, and this c63 is just RWD.
What do other owners think, go for it, or should I do my own project car. This car is priced so its just slightly cheaper than a c63 and the supercharger, so the value is okay.
Has anyone else here owned one of these? It looks like a lot of fun.
Weistec stage 3 supercharger
Weistec head studs
Weistec built tranny
It's had the mods on it for 30k kms and I'm pretty sure it's been well loved.
I like how it had the headstuds done. Thats one less thing to worry about on these motors. I'm not sure if the owner did cams/buckets while he was in there.
I'm really excited about the vehicle. at an absolute bare minimum it's got 40whp on my modded e63s, and this c63 is just RWD.
What do other owners think, go for it, or should I do my own project car. This car is priced so its just slightly cheaper than a c63 and the supercharger, so the value is okay.
Has anyone else here owned one of these? It looks like a lot of fun.
I think it's merc63 from what i can tell.
Solid car based on reputation.
It's a steal considering the asking price.
I would have bought it for the blower alone if he was local....
06-10-2016, 11:46 AM
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Do it! These motors are well built and very stout and the Weistec system is proven and safe.
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06-10-2016, 09:31 PM
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06-10-2016, 10:35 PM
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If you can afford it, why not.
But, don't expect it to be the price of a normal C63 in terms of maintenance. And expect things to break, as you beat on it, as the car is making significantly more power than it was before.
But, don't expect it to be the price of a normal C63 in terms of maintenance. And expect things to break, as you beat on it, as the car is making significantly more power than it was before.
06-11-2016, 03:07 PM
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06-11-2016, 10:58 PM
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Reputable owner(s) and well taken care of is good and all, but the person/people owning that car did not baby it or drive like a granny to the grocery store. That car has been pushed and driven hard to its limits. No matter how well built, you're taking an already powerful and expensive vehicle and damn near doubling the power.
Just remember when you're buying a heavily modded car like that, things break... Often. It's not just the initial price tag, it's "can I afford all the crap that comes with a 800hp car" talk. Suspension components, drivetrain, bushings, motor/tranny mounts going out often etc. I'm not even talking if things start breaking inside the motor or not monitoring IATs and bigger problems.
Good luck with whatever you decide...
Just remember when you're buying a heavily modded car like that, things break... Often. It's not just the initial price tag, it's "can I afford all the crap that comes with a 800hp car" talk. Suspension components, drivetrain, bushings, motor/tranny mounts going out often etc. I'm not even talking if things start breaking inside the motor or not monitoring IATs and bigger problems.
Good luck with whatever you decide...
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06-12-2016, 04:17 AM
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^ this ain't no E55. This engine has been run like this for over 30,000km with only a couple pulleys needed. These m156 are very strong engines, with all the stage 3 cars, I've only heard of one blowing up to my knowledge.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
06-12-2016, 08:49 AM
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^ this ain't no E55. This engine has been run like this for over 30,000km with only a couple pulleys needed. These m156 are very strong engines, with all the stage 3 cars, I've only heard of one blowing up to my knowledge.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
Hahahah, give me a ****ing break with that BS.
06-12-2016, 09:24 AM
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^ this ain't no E55. This engine has been run like this for over 30,000km with only a couple pulleys needed. These m156 are very strong engines, with all the stage 3 cars, I've only heard of one blowing up to my knowledge.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
Now is an even better time to own these cars, you can pick up a m156 for 5k used and throw it in worst case.... It's not like when they first came out and engines were $20k+.
Btw, cars not for sale anymore.
Ps it gets babied to the grocery store every week.
On top of that, you say how cheap m156 motors are. That right there says it all.... Hey guys, no worries can replace the motor for cheap!!!!!
Let's face it, the car has 60k miles and has been driven hard. Don't go blowing smoke as if it's as reliable as a stock or even modded C63. You're only kidding yourself with that.
I own a heavily modded E55 and the tranny and motor as JUST AS BULLETPROOF, but guess what, I did expecting things are gonna wear and tear much, much faster than a stock or close to stock car.
For you or anyone to think otherwise, just shows ignorance and denial.
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06-12-2016, 11:42 AM
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E55 guys seem offended...
I'm not worried about reliability at all to be honest. When did I say anything about it being as reliable as a stock car?? It has proven extremely reliable, I've been on 2500km road trips through the mountains, no issues. Sure there is more wear on rings and bearings with the increased power, but these are strong engines that were most likely over engineered to begin with.
Guess I'll just have to keep driving it and report back when it got another 30,000km on it. You two remind me of all the naysayers who thought switching a head bolt one at a time would never work and I was crazy. 30,000km+ later still going strong and many others doing it now too.
I'm not worried about reliability at all to be honest. When did I say anything about it being as reliable as a stock car?? It has proven extremely reliable, I've been on 2500km road trips through the mountains, no issues. Sure there is more wear on rings and bearings with the increased power, but these are strong engines that were most likely over engineered to begin with.
Guess I'll just have to keep driving it and report back when it got another 30,000km on it. You two remind me of all the naysayers who thought switching a head bolt one at a time would never work and I was crazy. 30,000km+ later still going strong and many others doing it now too.
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06-12-2016, 12:45 PM
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E55 guys seem offended...
I'm not worried about reliability at all to be honest. When did I say anything about it being as reliable as a stock car?? It has proven extremely reliable, I've been on 2500km road trips through the mountains, no issues. Sure there is more wear on rings and bearings with the increased power, but these are strong engines that were most likely over engineered to begin with.
Guess I'll just have to keep driving it and report back when it got another 30,000km on it. You two remind me of all the naysayers who thought switching a head bolt one at a time would never work and I was crazy. 30,000km+ later still going strong and many others doing it now too.
I'm not worried about reliability at all to be honest. When did I say anything about it being as reliable as a stock car?? It has proven extremely reliable, I've been on 2500km road trips through the mountains, no issues. Sure there is more wear on rings and bearings with the increased power, but these are strong engines that were most likely over engineered to begin with.
Guess I'll just have to keep driving it and report back when it got another 30,000km on it. You two remind me of all the naysayers who thought switching a head bolt one at a time would never work and I was crazy. 30,000km+ later still going strong and many others doing it now too.
You're keeping it because nobody is gonna buy your headache hahaha
06-12-2016, 03:53 PM
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Had numerous offers, wasn't interested in anything less than asking price and to be honest didn't even want to sell and very glad I didn't.
Anyone locally that knows this car, knows it far from a headache.
Hmm strange how a couple heros from E55s give warnings but guys that actually have these cars with blowers say to jump all over it... Lol
Anyone locally that knows this car, knows it far from a headache.
Hmm strange how a couple heros from E55s give warnings but guys that actually have these cars with blowers say to jump all over it... Lol
06-12-2016, 04:01 PM
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Merc63...enjoy the car. It sounds like an amazing project. It's always an adventure to sell a modified car though. I've sold a few. In my experience, just about the time you throw your arms up in the air and say fuggit, somebody with a lot of knowledge about the car will come out of the woodwork and pleasantly surprise you with their level of interest.
06-12-2016, 04:18 PM
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Merc63 is one of the most knowledgable guys around here, and from all appearances and posts here has maintained his car as well as anyone. He's also spent some serious coin making sure all the weak points of the motor and trans have been addressed. I'd probably say that this car is as good and reliable a supercharged version as you're likely to find on the used market. I for one would be glad that he's stress tested the car by running it like it should be, identifying weak areas, and continuing to strengthen the car for reliability. Just my 0.02.
06-12-2016, 05:27 PM
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The funny thing, Merc's car is probably more reliable than most of the rest here.
Lets take a look at this example. Remember, not ALL horsepower/torque is being used at ALL times.
Car A has 400whp and car B has 600whp. The owner of car A revs it out all day long, using most of that 400whp most of the time. Car B, with 600whp, is daily driven in comfort mode and tracked twice a year.
Which car is going to be subjected to more wear?
Edit -- I'm not saying this is a direct example of Merc's car. I don't know how he drove the car. It is just an example of why thinking a modded car with more power is a less reliable car.
Jesus guys, simmer down. It's a well built, well maintained, clean car that has plenty of life left in it. Yes, a modded car can be more reliable than a stock car. The power a car is putting down is only a small part of that reliability equation.
But it's cool, your ignorance means that there is cooler stuff for the rest of us on the market so bash away.
Lets take a look at this example. Remember, not ALL horsepower/torque is being used at ALL times.
Car A has 400whp and car B has 600whp. The owner of car A revs it out all day long, using most of that 400whp most of the time. Car B, with 600whp, is daily driven in comfort mode and tracked twice a year.
Which car is going to be subjected to more wear?
Edit -- I'm not saying this is a direct example of Merc's car. I don't know how he drove the car. It is just an example of why thinking a modded car with more power is a less reliable car.
Jesus guys, simmer down. It's a well built, well maintained, clean car that has plenty of life left in it. Yes, a modded car can be more reliable than a stock car. The power a car is putting down is only a small part of that reliability equation.
But it's cool, your ignorance means that there is cooler stuff for the rest of us on the market so bash away.
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06-12-2016, 06:20 PM
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The funny thing, Merc's car is probably more reliable than most of the rest here.
Lets take a look at this example. Remember, not ALL horsepower/torque is being used at ALL times.
Car A has 400whp and car B has 600whp. The owner of car A revs it out all day long, using most of that 400whp most of the time. Car B, with 600whp, is daily driven in comfort mode and tracked twice a year.
Which car is going to be subjected to more wear?
Edit -- I'm not saying this is a direct example of Merc's car. I don't know how he drove the car. It is just an example of why thinking a modded car with more power is a less reliable car.
Jesus guys, simmer down. It's a well built, well maintained, clean car that has plenty of life left in it. Yes, a modded car can be more reliable than a stock car. The power a car is putting down is only a small part of that reliability equation.
But it's cool, your ignorance means that there is cooler stuff for the rest of us on the market so bash away.
Lets take a look at this example. Remember, not ALL horsepower/torque is being used at ALL times.
Car A has 400whp and car B has 600whp. The owner of car A revs it out all day long, using most of that 400whp most of the time. Car B, with 600whp, is daily driven in comfort mode and tracked twice a year.
Which car is going to be subjected to more wear?
Edit -- I'm not saying this is a direct example of Merc's car. I don't know how he drove the car. It is just an example of why thinking a modded car with more power is a less reliable car.
Jesus guys, simmer down. It's a well built, well maintained, clean car that has plenty of life left in it. Yes, a modded car can be more reliable than a stock car. The power a car is putting down is only a small part of that reliability equation.
But it's cool, your ignorance means that there is cooler stuff for the rest of us on the market so bash away.
06-12-2016, 06:34 PM
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Realistically, this car only sees over 5-6psi boost in the upper rpm range. Down low and mid range it's only hitting 3-4psi, even less at cruise where 75% of the driving occurs.
Sure I pin it here and there but I don't need to redline to make power... Ya it's seen some time at the track maybe 20 passes??
I have buddies that put turbos and blowers on their dodges and fords and blew them up several times over trying to make the same power or slightly more. This car has been extremely reliable for the power it makes and it surprises a lot of people.
Anyone that has a blower car knows, it's like they came from the factory this way. They are completely natural and complete animals. The car was up for sale because of a business venture to free some capital, not at all because of anything else.
Sure I pin it here and there but I don't need to redline to make power... Ya it's seen some time at the track maybe 20 passes??
I have buddies that put turbos and blowers on their dodges and fords and blew them up several times over trying to make the same power or slightly more. This car has been extremely reliable for the power it makes and it surprises a lot of people.
Anyone that has a blower car knows, it's like they came from the factory this way. They are completely natural and complete animals. The car was up for sale because of a business venture to free some capital, not at all because of anything else.
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