4dr.no

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Anyone know backstory on this one?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-...-/172270358888

computertom

Don't know anything about that specific car, but I would be a bit nervous buying a wrapped car... honestly don't think that's too amazing of a deal for those miles and that build.

jordanaf

Anyone looking, do you see the 09 *ghost* number in the door?? Definitely a track car and high miles.

BLKROKT

I saw that too. Lot of miles. Probably beat.

INS1GNIA

Good eyes. I like how it says "mostly highway" lol.

C63amg Tokyo

Haha yea can see that 09 a mile away. 60k miles is quite a bit, my CBS doesn't even have 6k miles yet.

Eric ATP

A low mileage example sold here in Atlanta a few more months back for $80k. The issue is many BS owners want big time money for their cars on resale and I just don't see them holding value.

Diabolis

^ This. Plus, with all the miles of running the car on and off the track with an aggressive aftermarket tune to boot, that drivetrain is now shot. That car is going to be a money pit of intergalactic proportions. I wouldn't just walk, I'd run away from it.

talkinghamster

black series make my pants fit tighter

gzim335

Lmao at the comments who thing 60k miles the drivetrain is shot,that's a great price someone should buy it don't see these cars going any lower than that

tglems

60k? Not high miles at all if it was a daily driver. But put in a bid and see what happens, who knows, you might get a good price.

AMG3.2

Hell no - it's a great buy in my opinion. A lot of drivers put numbers on their cars just for looks.

Who drives 60k miles on C63's on the track. Think about how many track days it would equate 60k miles.. Those that track should know, its's a lot.

Plus, this car has laser jammers, etc. This isn't exactly helpful at the track at all...

What it looks like to me is some really rich dude, who probably has a nice collection, couldn't fathom daily driving anything less than a Black Series.

I don't think I'd necessarily be any more afraid of this car that other cars on this very same forum. It's a black series folks, even at 60k, you still have room to hedge against something going wrong and still have an awesome car at the end of the day.

My two cents for what they're worth.

BLKROKT

You're right, it would be a good buy at $60k. That's probably what it's worth. But it's not at that price anymore. Right now it's at $70k, and I'm pretty sure it will see $80k before the auction is over. It's likely not a very good buy at those levels as there are at least 5 BS's for sale nationwide, and every one appears to be in better shape and is higher-spec than this one. If you're looking at value, the better-kept examples will hold it better than one that's been beat to death.

AMG3.2

100% agreed. At 70k, I'd walk.

4dr.no

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Thanks for input guys. The auction has already ended once with one opening bid that didn't hit reserve. Seller said paint is in "good shape" and that he doesnt hve dyno for the car but is willing to put back to stock.

I bet if auction ends without a successful bid that he'd be open to a private deal for less than 69k, but that's just my hunch.

betrezra

I would buy that BS for the right price... he is in the range IMHO.

C63amg Tokyo

I disagree, many owners are selling their CBS for very reasonable prices considering what an amazing car it is. And for a car approaching 5 years old, the value is holding strong (even increasing). Especially in some other countries. Japan for one, the cheapest CBS I've seen for sale is $100k usd and it was pretty beaten up, the average CBS selling for 130-140k, even seen two selling at 160k+. With a limited number produced and the last of the m156, I think it will always be a special car.

As for this one, I agree there are better ones for sale with less miles and almost certainly less tracked.

C63amg Tokyo

I agree, he's close to the right price. Would be a very fun car to own still.

Eric ATP

wheelz

This one is in SoCal now with me. Got a 5 year warranty with it also.

Diabolis

Why don't you contact Jasonoff and see how much he's had to spend in maintenance on a C63 BS car (that he actually bought from a well respeceted MBWorld member, not someone on eBay) with a Eurocharged tune that was occasionally tracked and had less kms than this one just to get it in proper working order? If you think this is such a great deal, by all means go ahead and buy it, and then resell it for a nice profit. And hey, while you're at it, I also have a couple of Porsches that I could sell you which are definitley appreciating like crazy... yes, they have some numbers stuck on the doors and hood, but I will take those off.

roadtalontsi

lots of stupid in here, let me clear this up.

for starters there are only approx 80-90 c63 black series cars in the u.s. This is slim pickings. It's not the same as a clk black series where you had 349 in the u.s. With that being said sure the c63 black will most likely hold value way better than a clk black. 2012 with 60k?

clearly it's not a dedicated track car that would be nearly impossible unless you enter it in 24hr races constantly. Has it seen the track? I'd surely hope so and the numbers give it away. The black series was the one made for the track, it was engineered to take the abuse and be more reliable than the standard c63 which wasnt intended for track use.

Considering the mileage and age - this car could really be an awesome buy at 60k$. I dont think many of the lower mileage ones will go for 80k$ unless the owner is desperate even without the aero package or rear seat delete.

Also consider the mileage as a sign the car hasnt had time to be wrecked. It has been on the road approx 15k mi a year. That doesnt leave much time for a major accident or repairs to be made to it. Id almost be willing to bet the wrap was installed for paint protection since it actually gets driven. hence the headlamp film too.

Another thing to consider is that since it was daily driven it's not like every time it was driven it was flogged on. When you drive a car everyday and always have the power and performance on tap you're alot less likely to utilize it. Unlike say the above poster with 6kmi, theres a good chance everytime that car leaves the driveway its going for one hell of a ride. Not that there's any problem with that. I just want to point that out.

Finally as long as the brakes and tires are in good shape, oem spec and it has good maint. history/proof. The drivetrain is far from ruined. nothing is ruined, except the value from a minty c63bs which makes it somewhat affordable without a 6 figure check.

I personally like the clk63bs more, it's even more dated now than ever but it's hard top and i like the styling more. All the u.s. spec c63bs came with pano roofs and i feel that compromises the performance which is the whole point of a black series model. Pano roofs are heavy, noisy and let too much heat in the car even with the shade closed. The major difference in the two other than body is transmission mct vs torque converter. which is why the clk transmission is lazy in comparison. Even so both are very similar overall mechanically, engineered and performance wise.

betrezra

Good post Road. Agree... this car is not ruined.

Rowdy63

The car is just fine with those miles. Everyone here bought their AMG for performance and reliability. The M156 has been around for years, it's earned its merit as one of the best V8s ever built. A few track days are not going to ruin the drive train.

I think its an awesome buy for under 70k. The BS is a limited production run... someone will always want it.

nobbyv

I agree, never really bought into the idea of a car being "beat". What parts EXACTLY are the concern? Tires? We all know these eat tires regardless. Brakes? Even at ~$2k for the two-piece P31 rotors, who cares? Lots of high engine RPM? These things are designed to run all day at high RPM.

On a manual transmission, I'd be concerned about synchro wear from poorly-times/poorly-executed shifts. But on a car like this, damaging the gearbox is almost impossible: the TCU will prevent most kinds of transmission-related stupidity (accidental or otherwise). I can see accelerated axle wear from repeated hard launches, but even then these are really consumable parts. A new high-HP set from the Driveshaft Shop is $1500.

So what components of the car are all of you guys mentioning how this car is "beat" worried about?

EDIT: I'd say my one concern is over-revving with a cold engine before the oil is up to temp.