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Manual transmission or an auto that will shift as soon as I hit the paddle
Best response, straight off the bat! Gosh, a proper manual would be just epic. It would ensure these 6.2l powered cars in the hall of greatness forever.
Originally Posted by Jasonoff
This
lol second best answer!
For what it's worth, My car can consistency get to 26MPG on the highway over a 100mile cruise at 70-75mph without any traffic.
On a short 30 minute drive into Central London on a Saturday night, I can get to 19mpg or near abouts. Traffic/stopping etc is of course the key, so where one person can do this, they're obviously just riding their luck. Again though, I tend to average 17-18mpg on my 6 mile drive to the office in the morning. On the way back though, I get into the 15's because of traffic in the afternoon.
My fav mod for the car that I know I'll never do is to fit some really high compression pistons to go with the cams and then get a solid tune. One can always dream.
My car is basically stock and I tend not to focus much on fuel mileage as gas is blood.
That said it is an every day drive and she who shall be listened to drives it too so a more sedate pace there.
My combined city/highway consumption averages out per the system at 12.5 L/100km or 22.7 mpg Imperial gallon. If she never drove it it might average 13.5! I have seen straight highway runs at speeds averaging just under 115 kph (72 mph) of 10.4 L/100 km or 27 mpg Imperial.
As a bench mark the 2015 CLA45 AMG with its 2L four banger Turbo would generate an average consumption 9.6 L/100 km or 29.8 mpg Imperial.
That's about 33% more for so much more fun!!
Best response, straight off the bat! Gosh, a proper manual would be just epic. It would ensure these 6.2l powered cars in the hall of greatness forever.
lol second best answer!
For what it's worth, My car can consistency get to 26MPG on the highway over a 100mile cruise at 70-75mph without any traffic.
On a short 30 minute drive into Central London on a Saturday night, I can get to 19mpg or near abouts. Traffic/stopping etc is of course the key, so where one person can do this, they're obviously just riding their luck. Again though, I tend to average 17-18mpg on my 6 mile drive to the office in the morning. On the way back though, I get into the 15's because of traffic in the afternoon.
My fav mod for the car that I know I'll never do is to fit some really high compression pistons to go with the cams and then get a solid tune. One can always dream.
I find that hard to believe??? Max I get on E if I reset on highway is like 24MPG. While using paddles around town I've gone as low as 11.9MPG on the C300. The only thing I've done to my car is turn off the transmission adaptation/learning granny mode.
I find that hard to believe??? Max I get on E if I reset on highway is like 24MPG. While using paddles around town I've gone as low as 11.9MPG on the C300. The only thing I've done to my car is turn off the transmission adaptation/learning granny mode.
It's the intake spacer. Gives like 30% more fuel efficiency.
I find that hard to believe??? Max I get on E if I reset on highway is like 24MPG. While using paddles around town I've gone as low as 11.9MPG on the C300. The only thing I've done to my car is turn off the transmission adaptation/learning granny mode.
I dunno what to tell you..... FWIW this is from a cold start at my house (I don't reset the computer when i get to the highway) which is 15 miles from the highway. Granted, I'm driving economically to get there and like I said, it's a long 100 mile trip at a 'slow' speed. I have no reason to lie....driving like a granny on the highway in a 63 AMG isn't exactly anything to shout about
Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
It's the intake spacer. Gives like 30% more fuel efficiency.
Air conditioned and massaging seats would've been great. And a sunglasses holder.
To the guys complaining about the shift speeds must drive a C 55 if not already. It is a day and night improvement on shift speed, c 63 is instant compared to C 55 which you had to estimate your shift well before redlining it.
To the guys complaining about the shift speeds must drive a C 55 if not already. It is a day and night improvement on shift speed, c 63 is instant compared to C 55 which you had to estimate your shift well before redlining it.
That's what i have to do now in my 08 when using manual mode. If i don't hit the paddle before 6200 rpm on the 1-2 shift, it will bounce on the rev limiter before shifting. 2-3 and 3-4 shifts are a little more responsive after the paddle is clicked. (Maybe a 400 rpm delay)
I don't bother with manual mode on a hard takeoff anymore. Just leave it in sport mode.
I am guessing the MCT cars don't have this problem
That's what i have to do now in my 08 when using manual mode. If i don't hit the paddle before 6200 rpm on the 1-2 shift, it will bounce on the rev limiter before shifting. 2-3 and 3-4 shifts are a little more responsive after the paddle is clicked. (Maybe a 400 rpm delay)
I don't bother with manual mode on a hard takeoff anymore. Just leave it in sport mode.
I am guessing the MCT cars don't have this problem
Scenario:
Clone of yourself in your current car.
VS
You in a clone of your current car with a manual.
I'd bet you $1000 you'd lose in a 1/4 mile drag. I'd bet even more you'd lose worse on a circuit.
Scenario:
Clone of yourself in your current car.
VS
You in a clone of your current car with a manual.
I'd bet you $1000 you'd lose in a 1/4 mile drag. I'd bet even more you'd lose worse on a circuit.
I also wonder how many axles or driveshafts would have broken too. I remember a couple of people using racestart or something with the MCT that had broken driveline components fixed under warranty.
It's easy to think you can shift faster because of how occupied your brain is (off throttle, clutch in, shift, clutch out, on throttle) vs clicking a paddle and waiting for what seems like a lifetime. Keep in mind, full throttle the whole time with virtually 0 RPM loss.
Sorry, I should have clarified. I think that manuals might have broken driveline components in the scenario you mentioned. I in no way think I am faster than any modern auto.
Scenario:
Clone of yourself in your current car.
VS
You in a clone of your current car with a manual.
I'd bet you $1000 you'd lose in a 1/4 mile drag. I'd bet even more you'd lose worse on a circuit.
probably... but both versions on slicks it would be hard to say. If the drivetrain would hold up, a 6500 rpm launch in a manual with no throttle lift in shifts would be a hell of a run vs an auto on slicks that you can't raise the rpm on launch and guess at what rpm you should hit the paddle (if in manual mode)
Agree on a circuit. I see no benefit on a manual vs an auto car there other than maybe lack of transmission heat soak.
I would like to drive a C63 with a MCT to see how it compares to the slushbox in the PFL cars. Also, do the weistic builds eliminate the shift delay?
(EDIT Forgot to add...., we have to remember, a manual car will always make more power than an auto car due the natural power robbing that happens at the torque converter in a automatic.
I have witnessed cars pickup 50-60 whp from an auto to manual conversion.)
But at the of the day it doesn't matter, I bought this car because it was somewhat of a fun performance car that is an automatic. My knee was tired of driving and racing 5-speed manual mustangs for the last 25 years
Originally Posted by chrisridebike8
I also wonder how many axles or driveshafts would have broken too. I remember a couple of people using racestart or something with the MCT that had broken driveline components fixed under warranty.
I expect that is why a manual was never offered. It would shorten the life span in all of the rear IRS components in a big way. Especially the half shafts.
Going back to my fuel economy claim. I did a long journey today, so thought I'd take a pic once I'd gotten to my destination.
No cheating, no reset after it was warm etc (gosh I'd be a total virgin if i did that) and i set off from home at around 9:15am (after rush hour) on an overnight cold engine. It's around 10 minutes of local driving in traffic until I get to the highway. I mostly averaged 75mph for the entire journey on the highway. Light throttle and the occasional overtake of lorry's etc. I wasn't hyper-miling by any stretch, but it certainly was what I'd call 'commuting' driving with loads of other cars around me.
On the way home at night, was driving differently and hit 19.4mpg from door to door, albeit the engine was warm from when I set off to come home (was being tuned at a shop all afternoon). A few full throttle bursts, lots of playing around with medium throttle inputs and pretty much sitting on 100 - 120 for large stretches. I should have taken a picture, but I was desperate to use the bathroom
Ok. I'm not sure what it was, but my cluster was pretty much dead on with manual calculations and this is what I got going from VA Beach to San Diego. The one that's almost 24 mpg is a construction area of about 50-60 mph and on 91 octane! Keep in mind there are hills/mountains in a lot of this. I'm shocked!
12-02-2016, 04:36 AM
