cL 65 lowering with link

[rchoe618]

Any w215 CL65 lower with links..? How much can you lower it ..? Anyone lowered it aftermarket wheels ..? Wheel size , offsets, tire size ...? Pics..? Any info will help thkz

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[radride]

Originally Posted by rchoe618

Any w215 CL65 lower with links..? How much can you lower it ..? Anyone lowered it aftermarket wheels ..? Wheel size , offsets, tire size ...? Pics..? Any info will help thkz

I don't think you can lower the car with links. Its an ABC system and not Airmatic. I just used a lowering module to drop mine. That's the best way to do it.

As far as guys around here knowing what offset their wheels are... good luck. Not very many Merc owners, especially for a car as expensive as the CL, are car guys. They just order wheels that are made and will fit the car without any issues. I had this problem trying to get info and I just figured I might as well do it right, so I am figuring it out myself. I'm trying to see if a 11" wide rear will fit on the back of the CL65. Its going to be close. A 10.5" will fit on the rear without a problem.

R.K.

[saintz]

It can be lowered with links. I am currently collecting the parts to do it. The process is identical for ABC and Airmatic cars, E, S, CL, SL, etc.

[alx]

links work well on abc cars. just dont overdo it as they like to go even lower at speeds (at 80 mph and 120 mph or so)

they should run you about $160 for a good set.

[saintz]

Alx, I've seen them for $300. Any link for where they are $160? The parts are very hard to find, which surprised me, because they're so simple.

[rchoe618]

I tried it with two different wheels. . Forgiato and Asanti wheels and both failed to make wheels to fit on my CL65. And after 11 tries Asanti barely made wheels for me and its not 100% fits right. Wondering if any one out there has wheels and lowered it without any rubbing issues. Currently has link on the car with barely lowered .75 , want to know if any other way or wheels that i can lower at least 1.25 or 1.50.

[radride]

Originally Posted by rchoe618

I tried it with two different wheels. . Forgiato and Asanti wheels and both failed to make wheels to fit on my CL65. And after 11 tries Asanti barely made wheels for me and its not 100% fits right. Wondering if any one out there has wheels and lowered it without any rubbing issues. Currently has link on the car with barely lowered .75 , want to know if any other way or wheels that i can lower at least 1.25 or 1.50.

That's your first problem. Getting wheels by those manufacters. You need to order wheels from a company that makes custom offsets and not ones found in the catalog. I'm about 80% there figuring out fitment and proper fitment on the CL65. If I can pull this off I will be running a 11" wheel out back with a 305 tire. The fronts will be easy.

R.K.

[rchoe618]

Both of those companys were 3pcs custom ordered manufactures. And Forgiato tried 4times and other tried 11times. And both of them cost me over $5000 and its still not fits right. Let me know asap when you get your 305 tires and lower it without any problems..

[radride]

Originally Posted by rchoe618

Both of those companys were 3pcs custom ordered manufactures. And Forgiato tried 4times and other tried 11times. And both of them cost me over $5000 and its still not fits right. Let me know asap when you get your 305 tires and lower it without any problems..

I understand. They still can't make wheels to the mm when it comes to offset. I know a lot about wheels and how and where they are manufactered. I won't tell you my opinion on those wheels and others but you will never see me running that junk on my car. That goes for the "other" forged companies out there.

R.K.

[alx]

Originally Posted by saintz

Alx, I've seen them for $300. Any link for where they are $160? The parts are very hard to find, which surprised me, because they're so simple.

huh? i bought mine from here:

http://lowermyairride.co.uk/page34.html

they are 100 pounds which is 160 bucks.

they are of high quality as far as i can tell - never had any problems

[rchoe618]

Pm pls if you have any personal referrences or ideas..thkz

[rchoe618]

I currently have lowering link on my car.. i think its the wheels that i cant lower it more..

[danlnyc]

why are you getting Forgiato and Asanti for your CL65 anyways? Stick with HRE, DPE, ADV1, etc..

[radride]

Originally Posted by rchoe618

I currently have lowering link on my car.. i think its the wheels that i cant lower it more..

Show us a picture of your car lowered.

R.K.

[rchoe618]

With HRE wheels.. can be lower it with links ? Not slamming it.. just about.. 1'25-1'75 . Any one with pics of lowered W215 CL65..? Or any recommendation on selecting wheels and lowering ?

[radride]

Originally Posted by rchoe618

With HRE wheels.. can be lower it with links ? Not slamming it.. just about.. 1'25-1'75 . Any one with pics of lowered W215 CL65..? Or any recommendation on selecting wheels and lowering ?

Lowered The CL55 Thanks to Benz Wörks

Post #55 is my car.

As far as wheels, HRE's... google them and "cracking". ADV1 is made by MHT... None of these wheel companies mentioned can do what Work Wheels can.

R.K.

[saintz]

Originally Posted by alx

huh? i bought mine from here:

http://lowermyairride.co.uk/page34.html

they are 100 pounds which is 160 bucks.

they are of high quality as far as i can tell - never had any problems

Alx, thanks, good call. Never saw those. Look perfect and yes, much less than the $300 kit I was looking at.

[saintz]

The European CL is about an inch lower. The US version is raised an inch to meet US bumper height laws (thanks, SUVs). Ideally you can drop a CL by an inch using STAR/SDS. That would make it basically Europe spec, i.e. the same as everywhere else in the world and the height it was engineered to run at. With stock-size wheels and tires, it should run just fine dropped an inch. The links will work about as well to drop it an inch. If you drop it more than an inch, you are now in territory that Mercedes never designed the car for. Wheels/tires may become an issue, as well as bottoming the suspension or alignment issues.

The AMG wheels are heavy, but are high quality. I had Lorinser's (made by Ronal) on a previous ride, but I prefer the factory AMG wheels. The RennTech, Lorinser, etc. wheels are made to fit Mercedes specifically (and are all outsourced). I know a lot of people on here have HREs. I wanted to keep the AMGs, but wanted something black. It's very easy to get wheels refinished in the color of your choice. Much easier than swapping wheels and playing the guess-the-offset game.

[JHouse]

Originally Posted by saintz

The European CL is about an inch lower. The US version is raised an inch to meet US bumper height laws (thanks, SUVs). Ideally you can drop a CL by an inch using STAR/SDS. That would make it basically Europe spec, i.e. the same as everywhere else in the world and the height it was engineered to run at. With stock-size wheels and tires, it should run just fine dropped an inch. The links will work about as well to drop it an inch. If you drop it more than an inch, you are now in territory that Mercedes never designed the car for. Wheels/tires may become an issue, as well as bottoming the suspension or alignment issues.

The AMG wheels are heavy, but are high quality. I had Lorinser's (made by Ronal) on a previous ride, but I prefer the factory AMG wheels. The RennTech, Lorinser, etc. wheels are made to fit Mercedes specifically (and are all outsourced). I know a lot of people on here have HREs. I wanted to keep the AMGs, but wanted something black. It's very easy to get wheels refinished in the color of your choice. Much easier than swapping wheels and playing the guess-the-offset game.

Great info on the ride height! Thanks. It will be very helpful.

[rchoe618]

Thx for ur comments and it help me alot

[NRL]

Originally Posted by saintz

The European CL is about an inch lower. The US version is raised an inch to meet US bumper height laws (thanks, SUVs). Ideally you can drop a CL by an inch using STAR/SDS. That would make it basically Europe spec, i.e. the same as everywhere else in the world and the height it was engineered to run at. With stock-size wheels and tires, it should run just fine dropped an inch. The links will work about as well to drop it an inch. If you drop it more than an inch, you are now in territory that Mercedes never designed the car for. Wheels/tires may become an issue, as well as bottoming the suspension or alignment issues.

The AMG wheels are heavy, but are high quality. I had Lorinser's (made by Ronal) on a previous ride, but I prefer the factory AMG wheels. The RennTech, Lorinser, etc. wheels are made to fit Mercedes specifically (and are all outsourced). I know a lot of people on here have HREs. I wanted to keep the AMGs, but wanted something black. It's very easy to get wheels refinished in the color of your choice. Much easier than swapping wheels and playing the guess-the-offset game.

I used the Links off Ebay to drop my Cl65 an Inch.. ~$200 is what I remembered. Worked out great and did it myself. Had to take the wheels off one by one to get to it.

I usually don't drive with it at the lowest setting, but I select the one led lit mode on the ABC suspension button.

When parked I drop it to the lowest setting to the no led lit on the button mode with abc sport selected on too.

Just a word of caution if you decide to go with bigger then stock wheels/tires. I went with wider rear 285s versus 275 19 inch tires and it scrapes slightly under dips on the highway.. for like 1/2 second.. and bearly happens when in 2-LEDs Lit on the suspension button.

It's scraping not where you would fender fold but at the fiberglass plastic piece bumper trim..so you can't really fold that piece.. scraping just bearly.

Otherwise, I love the 285 rear michelin ps2s..

[radride]

Lowering with links is kind of a half-assed way of lowering the car. You're kind of stuck at that height unless you press the raise button on the dash. With a lowering module, I can lower the car to the mm; return to stock height with a click of the button. That way if I get a set of wheels and I get some rubbing, I can always raise the car a mm or 2.

R.K.

[NRL]

Originally Posted by radride

Lowering with links is kind of a half-assed way of lowering the car. You're kind of stuck at that height unless you press the raise button on the dash. With a lowering module, I can lower the car to the mm; return to stock height with a click of the button. That way if I get a set of wheels and I get some rubbing, I can always raise the car a mm or 2.

R.K.

Yah, having the remote module is probably the best. Select what you need instantly.

But after reading the manual on that lowering module with the remote and the wiring job it needs to do it, I decided not to go there..

I got a Das/Xentry Diagnostic kit(Super Star) after a few months I did the links so I could probably adjust it 1mm..

The ever so slight rubbing on dips is only because it's the rear tires are 285's..

[radride]

Originally Posted by NRL

Yah, having the remote module is probably the best. Select what you need instantly.

But after reading the manual on that lowering module with the remote and the wiring job it needs to do it, I decided not to go there..

I got a Das/Xentry Diagnostic kit(Super Star) after a few months I did the links so I could probably adjust it 1mm..

The ever so slight rubbing on dips is only because it's the rear tires are 285's..

Its 4 sets of wires plus a + and ground and that's it LOL. Its easy.

R.K.

[saintz]

The "proper" way to do it is really STAR. I was quoted $400 by my dealer, so it's relatively cheap. This allows them to dial it in exactly, and then you get the car aligned and never worry about it again.

The module has some benefits, but also drawbacks. It is by far the most expensive way. It allows you to adjust on the fly, but that also means that it allows you to wreck your alignment on the fly. Some of the kits require soldering, but the new ones I hear have plug and play harnesses.

The links, for a moderate drop, should work fine. They're cheap and once dialed in, you're done.