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Glyn M Ruck · 03-26-2012, 09:42 AM

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Mka77 · 03-26-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEEK

Also what do you guys mean by "tapered" wheel set?

You can see the difference in the picture above of the bolts. One is round (ball seat) the other is tapered (conical seat)

Look at your wheel lug hole and see which you have.

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 11:03 AM

When i bought those shorter lugs for these wheels, i bought 4 extra just to be safe for future. I have those 4 in the car. I will take them out and take a picture and post it here in a few mins. Thanks again guys.

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 01:17 PM

Here are some pics of the "bolt" "lug" "nut" whatever you wanna call it.

Jamesbbh · 03-26-2012, 04:33 PM

Can you get a pic of the hole in the rim that bolt goes into as well?

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 05:08 PM

Yeah ofcourse, but the wheels are mounted on the car? Will that make a difference?

Klinh · 03-26-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEEK

Yeah ofcourse, but the wheels are mounted on the car? Will that make a difference?

I think He want to see if the wheel hole bolt is "tapered" or "ball" seat type.

Mka77 · 03-26-2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEEK

Yeah ofcourse, but the wheels are mounted on the car? Will that make a difference?

Just take "1" lug bolt out, and take a picture "down in the hole"....

Glyn M Ruck · 03-26-2012, 06:02 PM

You have tapered/conical bolts. Now see whether you have tapered conical seats or ball head seats on the wheel.

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 06:32 PM

Here are some more pics.

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 06:34 PM

ok thats gonna be a mission now lol i will try to take out one lug out and take a pic of that hole. I hope that pic shows what you guys are trying to see.

Again, appreciate all the input

Jamesbbh · 03-26-2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klinh

I think He want to see if the wheel hole bolt is "tapered" or "ball" seat type.

Yep, that's what I was getting at, does the bolt "set" in there like they were built for each other or not

Glyn M Ruck · 03-26-2012, 10:37 PM

And when tightening/torquing wheels please observe the following sequence.

ZEEK · 03-26-2012, 11:20 PM

Glyn, thank you for the images.

Staff@RPM · 03-28-2012, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEEK

Also what do you guys mean by "tapered" wheel set?

If you need to get a cone seat lug bolt we have them in stock. If you have a vibration at 60 that goes away around 10 MPH later it is most likely a wheel balance problem. Factory Mercedes wheels are ball seat and most aftermarket wheels are conical seat. If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call at (516) 870-0351 and ask for Craig.

ZEEK · 03-28-2012, 11:23 AM

Thank you Craig, will do.

And guys, i will try to take one lug out and take a picture, i am sorry i have been busy at work.

ZEEK · 03-29-2012, 10:59 PM

Hey guys, just to update you all.

I went to the dealer because i noticed my alignment was off. They fixed my alignment and while i was there i told them if they can look at my wheels and see if everything is ok and if the lugs were ok and what not. And they said yeah everything looks fine and lugs are ok too. So i guess these lugs are fine?

And Craig, i might stop by you guys this saturday.

Glyn M Ruck · 03-30-2012, 05:58 AM

Try to get a really decent balancing job done.

Rudeney · 03-30-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck

Try to get a really decent balancing job done.

Good idea. I had a lot of issues on my W163 like this and it was tire balancing. Find a shop that has a Hunter 9000 and does road-force balances. Sometimes, both the rim and tire are out of balance, but not on the same radial direction. A good sign of this is a wheel with two balance weights on it. What the shop has to do, and the Hunter 9000 can tell them how, is dismount the tire and rotate it along the rim to line-up the heavy spots so only one weight will be needed.

ZEEK · 03-31-2012, 11:56 AM

You guys are amazing. Will do

Glyn M Ruck · 03-31-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeney

Good idea. I had a lot of issues on my W163 like this and it was tire balancing. Find a shop that has a Hunter 9000 and does road-force balances. Sometimes, both the rim and tire are out of balance, but not on the same radial direction. A good sign of this is a wheel with two balance weights on it. What the shop has to do, and the Hunter 9000 can tell them how, is dismount the tire and rotate it along the rim to line-up the heavy spots so only one weight will be needed.

+1 - Sometimes even finish balancing is required with wheels mounted. I must say that this is only usually needed with spoke wheels like my old Jag

Rudeney · 03-31-2012, 11:30 PM

My W163 ML320 with mundane 16 inch rims had to have this. I had new tires put on at NTB and when I drove off, it was shaking like crazy, I took it back three times until someone on the ML forum recommended seeking out a Hunter 9000. My local MBZ indy had one and when they got through, it rode smoother than when fresh off the factory floor (and I know, as I was the one who drive it off the factory floor!)

03-26-2012, 01:17 PM	#29
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Here are some pics of the "bolt" "lug" "nut" whatever you wanna call it. Attached Thumbnails

03-26-2012, 04:33 PM	#30
Jamesbbh Super Member 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pensacola, FL. Posts: 684 Drives: 2006 Facelift CLK500 Cab-	Can you get a pic of the hole in the rim that bolt goes into as well? __________________ 97-jeep tj------06-CLk500 Cabriolet

03-26-2012, 06:02 PM	#34
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,844 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	You have tapered/conical bolts. Now see whether you have tapered conical seats or ball head seats on the wheel. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

03-26-2012, 06:32 PM	#35
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Here are some more pics. Attached Thumbnails

03-26-2012, 10:37 PM	#38
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,844 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	And when tightening/torquing wheels please observe the following sequence. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

03-26-2012, 11:03 AM	#28
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	When i bought those shorter lugs for these wheels, i bought 4 extra just to be safe for future. I have those 4 in the car. I will take them out and take a picture and post it here in a few mins. Thanks again guys.

03-26-2012, 05:08 PM	#31
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Yeah ofcourse, but the wheels are mounted on the car? Will that make a difference?

03-26-2012, 06:34 PM	#36
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	ok thats gonna be a mission now lol i will try to take out one lug out and take a pic of that hole. I hope that pic shows what you guys are trying to see. Again, appreciate all the input

03-26-2012, 11:20 PM	#39
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Glyn, thank you for the images.

03-28-2012, 11:23 AM	#41
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Thank you Craig, will do. And guys, i will try to take one lug out and take a picture, i am sorry i have been busy at work.

03-29-2012, 10:59 PM	#42
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	Hey guys, just to update you all. I went to the dealer because i noticed my alignment was off. They fixed my alignment and while i was there i told them if they can look at my wheels and see if everything is ok and if the lugs were ok and what not. And they said yeah everything looks fine and lugs are ok too. So i guess these lugs are fine? And Craig, i might stop by you guys this saturday.

03-30-2012, 05:58 AM	#43
Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,844 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	Try to get a really decent balancing job done. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

03-31-2012, 11:56 AM	#45
ZEEK MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York City Posts: 1,755 Drives: Yo Momma	You guys are amazing. Will do

03-31-2012, 11:30 PM	#47
Rudeney MBworld Guru 2007 Mercedes-Benz W209 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,831 Drives: Current: 2002 C240, 2007 CLK550 Cabriolet, Previos: W163 ML320, W123 300D	My W163 ML320 with mundane 16 inch rims had to have this. I had new tires put on at NTB and when I drove off, it was shaking like crazy, I took it back three times until someone on the ML forum recommended seeking out a Hunter 9000. My local MBZ indy had one and when they got through, it rode smoother than when fresh off the factory floor (and I know, as I was the one who drive it off the factory floor!) __________________ -- - RODNEY

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