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Old 08-28-2015, 11:22 PM
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WDBUH87XX7X220824 is actually a MY2007 - 10th digit of the VIN is the model year. But no worries, it has M272 engine #507077 which is beyond the balance shaft problem range.
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Check vin for harmonic balancer recall

Hello everyone, I own a 2005 w211 E55 Amg Mercedes and I have been told that I have to replace my harmonic balancer and I only have 72000 km . I have had the car serviced by only Mercedes dealership and I have had many problems with it. Now after reporting that I have a slight noise in one of my pullies after recently changing all of my pullies that my harmonic balancer needs replacing. I have been quoted something like $4200 for the job and I am not too happy about it. After looking on line I see that it is a common problem and say that my model may not be covered under the recall. But also saw that you can check via your VIN number of your vehicle and that some of my year are still covered according to the vin number. So if someone could please check for me my vin number it would be greatly appreciated and post the answer for me to see the outcome please.
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WDB 211076.2A.840743
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:26 PM
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Peter, your engine will not be susceptible to balance shaft failure. It uses the M113 engine, not the M272 or M273 that has these problems.
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That one's out of the range - the M272 range is through engine #468993.
Hi Rodney,

A few days ago my engine light came on then turned off my E350 (W211) and when I got it checked by the mechanic, a P0012 stored fault came up; continuous camshaft adjustment (RIGHT): Incorrect position of intake camshaft (P0012).

So, I removed the four camshaft sensors and checked the position of the camshaft 'timing markings'. The left bank inlet and exhaust, and the right bank exhaust markings were centered but the Right bank inlet timing marking was slightly off centered, in comparison to the others but the full circle was still visible.

I'm not sure what this means, as you have already mentioned that this MB ( VIN: WDB2110562B100725 Engine number: 272 964 305 470 57) is out of the problem range , so do you have any ideas on what this could mean?

I would greatly appreciate some help on this problem. I've only driven about 95,000 km and am worried.

Thank you,
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It's out of the range for balance shaft problems. P0012 (DTC 0272) is a symptom of camshaft solenoid (cam magnet) failure, covered under "Scenario 2" of the TSB. And your engine is still in range for that. Here in the US, all four solenoids can be bought for about $100 at discount, and as you have found, thye are fairly easy to remove and replace.

http://benzbits.com/BalanceShaftTSB.pdf
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Can anyone tell me how I file a claim? I will be doing repairs in about two weeks. My dealer wants around 7k and an independent shop that does mercedes benz wants 3.5k. The car is a 2007 c230 and has 57k miles, it's within the affected range of the engines with the balance shaft issue. So because it has between 50k and 70k miles they will cover 70%, correct?
According to the FAQ on balanceshaftsettlement.com if I go to an independent shop they will refund up to 4k. Did I read that correctly? Meaning my $3.5k repair will be covered by MB?

If the repair submitted for reimbursement was performed at an Independent Service Provider (i.e. a non-Authorized Mercedes-Benz Dealer), the "reasonable repair amount" will be the lesser of the actual amount charged or $4,000.
Once I get the receipt from the repair shop, do I submit that copy of the receipt with the claim to Mercedes? Also, how long do I have to file a claim? Is there a deadline?

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Old 09-20-2015, 10:22 PM
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This site has a link for generating a claim form:

https://eclaim.kccllc.net/caclaimforms/mse/home.aspx
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Hey guys! My 2009 ML350 4Matic w/ ~80k miles just had P0016 and P0017 come on. Dealer says it just needs a timing chain (it's under warranty thankfully). They claim it's not balance shaft related.

Can you tell me if I'm within the affected range? VIN: 4JGBB86E59A476199

Thank you for any help in advance!!!
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What is the effective date? Can I still make repairs and submit the claim?
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Just got this from them:

The Court granted the Motion for Final Approval, approved the Settlement, and certified a Settlement Class on August 17, 2015. Therefore, all repairs must have been made prior to the Effective Date in order to be considered for reimbursement. However, the Effective date is currently on its way to being finalized and will posted on our website (estimated to be late September). Please check back within the next two weeks for an update, or you may visit the website periodically for any updates. We will post the Effective Date once we receive the information.
I'm still not sure if they're hinting that the effective date is August 17th or that it's going to be late September.
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Good Morning,

To summarize things, you have two options. You can opt to have repairs performed prior to the Effective Date (which will be posted on our website late September) or you may wait until the Effective Date has occurred in order to begin your repair process directly with MBUSA. This option will not need a claim form to be submitted, as you begin the entire process with them.
The Effective Date refers to the first date by which any Final Order and Judgment entered pursuant to the Agreement becomes final. The Final Approval hearing was set for August 17, 2015; however the Court will also consider Objections received and may decide the issues at the Final Approval hearing but we do not know how long these decisions will take. Therefore, once the previously mentioned have been resolved, they move on to finalizing the Effective Date. (Again, estimated around late September).

Please read the following details regarding the Settlement in addition to the information you were previously provided.
If you get the repairs done after the Effective date we will not be notifying you regarding MBUSA’s process with the repairs as we only deal specifically with the Settlement. You will need to contact MBUSA directly to inquire of their process. This will not require you to submit a Claim Form since you are dealing directly with MBUSA. Repairs performed after the Effective Date must be performed at an Authorized Mercedes-Benz dealership. Please check the website within the next two weeks for an update, or you may visit the website periodically for any updates for the Effective Date posting as this will serve as an important guideline on when you should contact MBUSA to have repairs performed directly with them. Once the Effective Date has occurred, you may begin to contact MBUSA to inquire about the process with them.

However, if you opt to have repairs performed before the Effective date, and you submit a timely Claim Form along with your supporting documentation, if we require additional information we will contact you via mail. Please be advised that at this time we do not have an estimated distribution date. The review process will be in several phases; therefore will take some time. Once we begin our review process, if we require additional information from you, we will contact you. Please feel free to check our Settlement website periodically for any updates.

See FAQ #5 of our Settlement website for details regarding coverage. You will want to contact MBUSA directly to confirm their process as we do not have information nor authorization to speak on their behalf outside of the Settlement.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

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Originally Posted by DATL5
Hey guys! My 2009 ML350 4Matic w/ ~80k miles just had P0016 and P0017 come on. Dealer says it just needs a timing chain (it's under warranty thankfully). They claim it's not balance shaft related.

Can you tell me if I'm within the affected range? VIN: 4JGBB86E59A476199

Thank you for any help in advance!!!
That's odd. This engine is well beyond the balance shaft trouble range. This is the first time I've heard of an M272 timing chain problem. A stretched chain would cause these same errors The good news is that timing chain replacement is not horrible - it can be done with one valve cover removed instead of pulling the whole engine out as with balance shaft repair.
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
That's odd. This engine is well beyond the balance shaft trouble range. This is the first time I've heard of an M272 timing chain problem. A stretched chain would cause these same errors The good news is that timing chain replacement is not horrible - it can be done with one valve cover removed instead of pulling the whole engine out as with balance shaft repair.
Thanks for that info! I'm glad it's beyond the balance shaft trouble range at least. It sucked this happened within 48 hours of purchasing it- I'm kinda glad because the dealer isn't making me pay the warranty deductible (though I did threaten to cancel the deal). Maybe it's a better sooner than later situation. I am concerned with such a young timing chain failure. Maybe the last owner didn't keep his oil changed? Hopefully if that's the case it'll be okay with this new timing chain and will continue to be as long as I keep the maintenance up?!
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Mechanical parts can fail and there can be the odd manufacturing defect. This is just a very odd problem to have on this engine.
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
It's out of the range for balance shaft problems. P0012 (DTC 0272) is a symptom of camshaft solenoid (cam magnet) failure, covered under "Scenario 2" of the TSB. And your engine is still in range for that. Here in the US, all four solenoids can be bought for about $100 at discount, and as you have found, thye are fairly easy to remove and replace.

http://benzbits.com/BalanceShaftTSB.pdf
Hi Rodney,

Ok I see, thank you! Do you know any online dealers who sell the solenoids for these cars?

Thanks again,
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The solenoids should be readily available at the parts counter of any authorized dealer. If you are int he USA, parts.com is a good source for discounted OEM parts shipped from their dealer network.
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Just curios. Is this a problem that I would experience in similar year built SL's?
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
The solenoids should be readily available at the parts counter of any authorized dealer. If you are int he USA, parts.com is a good source for discounted OEM parts shipped from their dealer network.
Thanks a lot Rodney!
You've been a great help!
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Can someone please check this VIN to see if it is affected?

WDBUH87J36X187501


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Originally Posted by 163lbft
Can someone please check this VIN to see if it is affected?

WDBUH87J36X187501


Thanks!
That's a MY2006 (10th digit = 6) so yes, as all MY2006's with the M272 engine (xx280, xx300, xx350) are "in the range" for potential balance shaft problems. Oly MY2007's need to be checked by VIN as that is the year when the problem was resolved in mid-model build.
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Originally Posted by Patton001
Just curios. Is this a problem that I would experience in similar year built SL's?
Yes, any MBZ with an M272 or M273 engine built prior to mid-model year 2007 will be in the range for potential balance shaft failure. This includes the xx230, xx280, xx300, xx350, xx450 and xx550 models.
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The wife is looking at C-300 at MB OKC and before we drive down to OKC can you run the VIN?

WDDGF54X38R038482

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Originally Posted by ibcrusn
The wife is looking at C-300 at MB OKC and before we drive down to OKC can you run the VIN?

WDDGF54X38R038482

Thanks much.
No balance shaft worries on a MY2008 vehicle. It was resolved in MY2007.
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Originally Posted by Rudeney
No balance shaft worries on a MY2008 vehicle. It was resolved in MY2007.
Good to know, thank you. I will exit stage right and keep reading the forum to get smarter.


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