VIPclk320

https://mbworld.org/forums/engine-pe...nsmission.html

MouTine

Blue top solenoid mod? Partnumber is A2402700089. What MB model they are originally for? What solenoids W208 55 should have?

VIPclk320

They are from the maybach. The clk has the brown tops, these are direct replacement for your transmission to give you the faster and firmer shifts which these cars lag.

MouTine

Ok thanks. This is very interesting. I need to do more research on this...

cm60k

It's good idea to go with these high pressure solenoids on W208/W210, but they are works with ME2.8/EGS52 only, which is (11/2001>>2002),,

they unfortunate will not work with any W202/W208/W210 pre-1998>>10/2001..

ZAYED,,

MouTine

Why is that? Whats the diffirence? I mean I do have a +- touch type shifter if you are referring to that but not sure is it ME2.0 or ME2.8.

I red somewhere that ME2.8 has a digital speedometer but my cars missing that feature.

I have seen some early pre-facelift CLK55s with gate style shifters. I think they are very rare.

cm60k

Even ME2.0 come with tiptronic shifter, but with EGS51 not 52,

it's NOT possible to put blue tops in gate shifter or even with tiptronic that has EGS51, cause EGS51 can't be programmed..!

should have ME2.8+EGS52 to let blue tops works, no any other solution at least in this MOMENT..

ZAYED,,

VIPclk320

if your car is really a clk55 then its ME2.8, CLK 55s never came with ME2.0, Only E55 W210 came as ME2.0. also there are many CLK ME2.0s that came with tiptronics, all 2000s were the cross overs so they were ME2.0 but came with tiptronics and the updated cluster. also all the cluster being ME2.0 or ME2.8 are digital. the difference is in the shifter assembly, the early ME2.0 came with manual shifters with linkage and shaft, the 2000 ME2.0 came with the tiptronics wich is the digital floor shifters, all ME2.8s came with the digital floor shifter. this info is 100% accurate because I did a clk320 ME 2.0 to a CLK55 ME2.8 full conversion and did about a year of research and took all 3 styles apart and found everything out about it. Zayed can also attest to this info.

VIPclk320

Zayed there are a few members that have the bluetops in the EGS51 and een in the 430 EGS51 trans, I belive pauljay is one of them.

MouTine

My car is genuine CLK55 euro-spec. If I remember correctly CarSoft diagnostic tool gave me ME2.0 when I red ECU version but I'm not sure. I should have screen shot somewhere.

I have seen at least one pre-facelift CLK55 with old style instrument cluster and gate-style shifter.

The digital speedometer I was referring to was that one you can dial tru menus in some versions of instrument clusters. Not all have that feature. My car for example does not. I'm not talking about pre-facelift and facelifted versions. I do have all those three digital screens, but just not that digital speedo feature. Friend of mine who have '00 CLK430 have this feature. Manufacture date between these two vehicles are couple of months but cannot remember witch direction.

You wrote that all CLK55 are ME2.8. That could be so in US but here in Europe I'm not sure. My car for example does not have OBDII port. I believe that you guys in US has this in all vehicles from 1995? Right? OBDII came mandatory here in EU at 2001.

VIPclk320

production date for CLK 55 AMG is registered in 2001. The transmission for the CLK55 was also tiptronics all over the world regardless of which reigon. The pre facelift CLK that you have seen was a transplant that someone put a 55 motor in a older 430 and tuned the ECU. Such production dates for CLK55 dont exist. As for OBD2, there are 2002 CLKs that dont have OBD2 ports because they were from different reigons.

cm60k

Good info. bro.,

MB produced first CLK55 in 2/2000, with ME2.0/EGS51, then they replace them to ME2.8/EGS52 in 1/2002,

my friend's 2001 CLK55 comes with ME2.0/EGS51, (as of version of 09/2001),

Not so sure about "pauljay", but i can 100% assure those blue tops will not work properly with ME2.0/EGS51,,

i tried that before, it causes a big big jerking in l/k t. converter..!!

ZAYED,,

Pauljay

Hi Zayed, Ash is correct in what he says (he's very methodical)..

I have a 2000 model CLK430 with a tiptronic shifter and ME 2.0. A few years ago I replaced my solenoids from brown to blue. I posted up my results and can confirm that it does work!

My gear shifts have been speeded up and it feels like I don't lose power as much because of this. What I also noticed was that below 20mph there was a slight jerk between 1st and 2nd gear on very low throttle (I'll let you guys read up to save me writing it again).

What the TCU tune does is smooth the integration of the faster gear shift to eliminate the slight jerk. The blue solenoids actually speed up the shift mechanism.

Hope that helps Mou Tine!

cm60k

Thankss for reply bro.,

sure it's work, but i'm referring to the big jerks that can't drive with it, i have the first version of ME2.0 with gate shifter, that impossible to work with,

but in your & Moutine case, you both have the first version of ME2.0 with tiptronic, jerk is smaller than mine, but it's exist isn't.?,,

i just want to say; in case if Moutine can ignore that jerk, of course he can go with blue top..

ZAYED,,

cm60k

BTW;-

When our friend's "Magnus" had a problem with his oily EGS51,,

he went to the dealer to put blue tops as "shift upgrade option", they immediately replace it to EGS52 to match the new more pressure..

https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...o-upgrade.html

ZAYED,,

Pauljay

Cool Zayed!

You're right in saying that if Moutine can live with that 'jerk' then he should get them as they make a big difference..

Yes, I read about Magnus. I tried the same thing but the dealer wouldn't upgrade my TCU, I think it must be an AMG thing!

FFXF1

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MouTine

PaulJay. How many miles / kms you have driven with your solenoids? Any signs of clutchpack wear or other probs? Wondering what kind of long term efects they may do.

My transmission works fine. Sometimes it is kind of slow on its mind. For example if I drive stedy speed like 90kmh / 56mph and then suddenly floor the gas pedal to pass agressively few cars it drops from 5th to 3rd but shifting is kind slow. Hard to explain. Like it sliping part of second.

Going full throtle into steep downhill will easily cause engine hit the rev limiter. Right?

Well... I like smooth feeling of Mercedes but in the other hand I miss those days when I had a Cobra Mustang with manual tranny. I tryed to search any videos relating to that slow speed jerk you guys are talkin but didn't find anything.

VIPclk320

Sold!

Pauljay

MouTine

I did the swap around 2-3yrs ago, since done probably 24,000 miles! No sign of any wear at the moment, haven't heard of any long term damage either from members that have this mod. In fact some say it's easier on the transmission!

The 'jerk' is just a feeling of the transmission changing gear quickly. It changes fast in all gears at all speeds so I guess when going slowly in a manual and you shifted quickly you would feel a slight 'jerk' as opposed to if you shifted slowly to keep it smooth..

This mod doesn't change any of the transmissions habits, it only speeds up the changes, shift points remain the same. Only kick-down is better because it's faster and up shift being faster keeps you in the power band better...

2PRECISE

the solenoids just hold more pressure, the reason the gears shifts so smooth is behind all the clutch plates is a cushion plate that basically looks wavy, when the gear is engaged and the clutch's get hit with the pressure they bounce and get absorbed by the plate. but the solenoids do make a difference.

enrikerace

Hello,

Ive been a looking for info about this solenoids but havent find anyone who have intalled them in a v6 transmission.

I have an e320 with several mods.

THANKS

insame1

I think these are for the 722.6 trans only if that helps.