Zaino Bros...Ultimate setup??

CiLKY · 03-11-2003, 09:51 AM

Hey guys....
I'm going to re-order Zaino products as I haven't used their stuff in a year or so. What I'm looking for is the ultimate deep shine combo does anyone have suggestions. I used to use the Z-1 polish lok then Z-5 swirl remover- then multiple coats of z1& z2 show car polish. I stopped using it because I hated waiting for the stuff to dry to a haze which took hours up here in the mountains. Should I re-order the same combo or what about blackfire or pinnacle?
Now I see Zaino has ZFX does this totaly replace the Z-1? I could always tell a difference just using the Z-1 so I'm curious which is better.

also I noticed alboston mention never to use meguairs quick detailer and zaino... why is that? I plan on getting the Z-6, but just curious.

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nubomb · 03-11-2003, 10:06 AM

you don't need Z-1 if you are going to use the ZFX.

ZFX will cut the drying time down considerably, 3 coats in one day.

Zaino is suppose to be a system, thats why their quick detailer is suggested. It's suppose to help the bonding and shine in between coats.

CiLKY · 03-12-2003, 07:49 AM

AlBoston where are you??? I was hoping to get another opinion.
Thanks
Jeremy

Kar don · 03-12-2003, 05:53 PM

Well megs quik detailer should NOT be used in between coats as it has oily gloss enhancers which *MAY* inhibit zaino from bonding correctly. Zaino has updated their formulas about 4 months ago for greater gloss and better swirl filling ability. Give it a shot, with ZFX drying time is almost cut down to nothing on a good warm dry day.

JeT · 03-13-2003, 12:27 PM

Hey Al, I think you meant to say Megs should NOT be used.

Kar don · 03-13-2003, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeT
Hey Al, I think you meant to say Megs should NOT be used.

thanks for catching that

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brianw430 · 03-13-2003, 10:24 PM

nubomb,

Does the ZFX replace the Z-1? I thought the ZFX only helped reduce drying time, while the Z-1 is more for prepping the surface.

I'm about to order my spring detailing products and was planning on ordering the Z-1...if I need it!

Thanks!

nubomb · 03-14-2003, 07:22 AM

Z-1 is NOT needed. Check out the site www.zainobros.com.

This was taken from the Zaino Website.

4. The basic products you will need are Z1 or the new ZFX accelerator additive, Z2, Z5 (optional, but highly recommended), Z6 and Z7.
Note: The New ZFX accelerator additive is our latest innovation and designed as a substitute and/or replacement for Z-1.

5. Start with either Z-1 Polish Lok as per directions OR the preferred New ZFX accelerator additive. If you are using Z-1 it does not need to dry. Remember do not wipe off the Z-1 Polish Lok. Apply Z-5 or Z-2 directly over the Z-1. Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free, flawless paint finish. Usually one to three coats will accomplish that.

brianw430 · 03-15-2003, 01:18 AM

Thank you nubomb! I'm embarassed to say I was just on their site and did not see that! Scratch the Z-1!

Take care!

vdimemmo · 03-21-2003, 11:34 PM

Just tried this combo for the first time and must say I was quite impressed. The combination of acrylic and carnuba looks great.

I did 2 coats of Klasse All-in-One, let it bond/harden overnight, and followed up with 2 coats of Pinnacle Souveran. Spent zero time correcting any hazing or smearing. Microfiber towels work wonders.

A detailing tip from www.properautocare.com recommended using a wetting agent like Eagle One's WET as opposed to water when applying the acrylic. This seemed to keep the applicator damp longer and gliding over the cars finish.

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Kar don MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: GMT -8 hours Posts: 5,616 Drives: Mercedes-Benz	Well megs quik detailer should NOT be used in between coats as it has oily gloss enhancers which MAY inhibit zaino from bonding correctly. Zaino has updated their formulas about 4 months ago for greater gloss and better swirl filling ability. Give it a shot, with ZFX drying time is almost cut down to nothing on a good warm dry day. __________________ 12 Mercedes-Benz E350 Bluetec - Black/Ash - P2, 321 11 BMW 535xi Alpine White/Oyster- Sport, P2, 2TB, 5DL, 6NF 08 Mercedes-Benz CLS550 Iridium Silver/Black Leather - P2, AMG pkg, Parktronic, Ipod (gone!) 07 Lexus GS350 Smoky Granite Mica/Ash leather - NAV, 18's, Sirius, AFS, ventilated seats, & Rear spoiler (gone!) Last edited by AlBoston; 03-13-2003 at 01:24 PM.

03-21-2003, 11:34 PM	#10
vdimemmo Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 95	Just tried Pinnacle-Klasse Just tried this combo for the first time and must say I was quite impressed. The combination of acrylic and carnuba looks great. I did 2 coats of Klasse All-in-One, let it bond/harden overnight, and followed up with 2 coats of Pinnacle Souveran. Spent zero time correcting any hazing or smearing. Microfiber towels work wonders. A detailing tip from www.properautocare.com recommended using a wetting agent like Eagle One's WET as opposed to water when applying the acrylic. This seemed to keep the applicator damp longer and gliding over the cars finish.

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03-11-2003, 10:06 AM	#2
nubomb Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 201	you don't need Z-1 if you are going to use the ZFX. ZFX will cut the drying time down considerably, 3 coats in one day. Zaino is suppose to be a system, thats why their quick detailer is suggested. It's suppose to help the bonding and shine in between coats.

03-12-2003, 07:49 AM	#3
CiLKY Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2002 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 592 Drives: E63 2010	AlBoston where are you??? I was hoping to get another opinion. Thanks Jeremy

03-13-2003, 12:27 PM	#5
JeT Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brisbane/Sydney, Australia Posts: 782	Hey Al, I think you meant to say Megs should NOT be used.

03-13-2003, 10:24 PM	#7
brianw430 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 494 Drives: '03 Ford F-250	nubomb, Does the ZFX replace the Z-1? I thought the ZFX only helped reduce drying time, while the Z-1 is more for prepping the surface. I'm about to order my spring detailing products and was planning on ordering the Z-1...if I need it! Thanks!

03-14-2003, 07:22 AM	#8
nubomb Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 201	Z-1 is NOT needed. Check out the site www.zainobros.com. This was taken from the Zaino Website. 4. The basic products you will need are Z1 or the new ZFX accelerator additive, Z2, Z5 (optional, but highly recommended), Z6 and Z7. Note: The New ZFX accelerator additive is our latest innovation and designed as a substitute and/or replacement for Z-1. 5. Start with either Z-1 Polish Lok as per directions OR the preferred New ZFX accelerator additive. If you are using Z-1 it does not need to dry. Remember do not wipe off the Z-1 Polish Lok. Apply Z-5 or Z-2 directly over the Z-1. Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free, flawless paint finish. Usually one to three coats will accomplish that.

03-15-2003, 01:18 AM	#9
brianw430 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 494 Drives: '03 Ford F-250	Thank you nubomb! I'm embarassed to say I was just on their site and did not see that! Scratch the Z-1! Take care!

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