johnadams

Can anyone help me, I'm really wanting to purchase this vehicle.
However, I don't want to be fleeced by the dealership. The sales person kept saying they're losing money on this vehicle and they wouldn't budge with the price - won't even give a couple of hundred dollar discount.

The good thing is it's a CPO and there's a 2-year pre-paid maintenance.

Any thoughts/advice appreciated, thanks!


http://cargur.us/FYPx




Listing Summary
Dealer's Price: $33,993
Location: Houston, TX
Mileage: 38,503 miles
Transmission: Automatic
Exterior Color: Black
Interior Color: BLACK
Gas Mileage: 17 MPG City
26 MPG Highway
Engine: V6
Seller: Dealer
Stock #: BF107021
Major Options: Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof

Dsurr

Too much! Go to Texascarsdirect.com or to Ecarone.com. They have the same cars much cheaper with less miles here in Dallas. All clean carfax. If you can find a 2012 you will be happier as it has 40 more hp than the 2011. Ecarone has E550 for the same price as the one you are looking at which is a better choice.

johnadams

Thanks Dsurr!

Yeah the dealership was saying that the cars at Texascardirect.com don't come with the CPO warranty / 160 point inspection / etc etc.

There's also a $1,200 2 payment credit if financed by Mercedes at 1.74% auto debit rate.

they're also offering a 2 year pre-paid maintenance.

abqhudson

Regardless of what the salesman says -- if the car is worth $32,000 or $33000 to you, I would suggest that you make a written offer and see what happens. You might just buy a car or you can just walk away. Good luck.

dkchips

Considering that you'd get a 1 year CPO Unlimited warranty, up to $1,200 payment reduction and 2 years N/C service I'd stay with the CPO car but offer to buy the 2011 Coupe if they throw in the extra year on the extended warranty.

This way you'll have a total of 6 years from in service date and unlimited warranty - this alone is worth between $3,000 - $4,000.

And like the earlier reply - make an offer - the worst is they say no - there are literally 1,000's of E350's between 2010 - 2013 for sale.

I traded my 2010 E350 White Sport sedan in for a CLS550 in June at Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach about a month before the values took a hit.

I got $32,500 for my trade with 28,500 miles and it had 10 months left on the original factory warranty.

All in all - with the perks and hopefully the 2 year extended warranty thrown in the price is not bad at all.

But - if you want the 550 - the 2012 is the way to go as well as the 350 since both models had significant engine upgrades for these years.

THE GALVES MARKET READY REAL WORLD TRADE IN VALUE FOR THIS E350

$29,150 - not including the CPO - The 2 payment credits or the services.

Go for it - OR shop and research for a 2012 E350 Coupe as the GALVES Values
are at $34,675 without CPO etc.

Galves pricing above as described as MARKET READY
Market Ready: Representative of a vehicle that needs no reconditioning mechanically or cosmetically. Excellent wheels and tires. All systems have been inspected and are operating optimally. No evidence of previous paintwork or vehicle history issues. Excellent service records and service history. A vehicle that would qualify for certification. It might well be thought of as what a consensus of interested dealers would consider reasonable to pay for a front line ready vehicle. Only the most exceptional consumer-owned vehicles being traded to such a dealer would fall into this category.

Dsurr

Does the car have panoramic roof, P1or P2 package? In Houston you want P2 to get ventilated seats, especially with Black interior.

dkchips

All E350 Coupes have the pana roof - and if this car has Navigation it's part of the P1 package - so yes - so far this car has the pana roof and P1

But from the looks of the front bumper I don't think this car has P2 - as it would include headlight washers and I don't see the cut outs below each headlight.

Also - all Coupes come standard with leather covered seating surfaces and I'm not sure but ventilated seats might have been a separate option on the 2011.

I got a 2014 E350 Coupe for my wife on 11/4 - every option except Distonic and I'm looking at the original MSRP and heated and Active ventilated seats are a separate option at $450

johnadams

Thanks for all the feedback, I looked at the car and it had a lot of swirl marks like you can see the whole car kind of looked like tiny scratches all over. It's more pronounced at night especially on the hood and the trunk. Someone must have cleaned it with a rough rug or something. Are these swirl marks common for all black cars? or just the ones that were not maintained right e.g. no wax/paint protection

dkchips

Don't worry about the swirl makes - as part of the offer an extra special detail also Zaino products has stuff for dark cars - www.zainostore.com

I've been using their products for over 20 years on my BMW's - Mercedes and Porsche's

johnadams

Great! I hate those swirl marks!

Dsurr - it's just a P1. That's the only optional package on it. I've rarely seen one with the P2 package.

Dsurr

Check out ecarone.com they have quite a few with P2.

johnadams

dkchips - that's some really good info, thanks.

I went to texasdirectauto today, it was filled with people. I don't know why it's so popular!

Anyway, test drove a 2012 E350 with 18k miles. Selling for $39,980 thought it was a good deal.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-REARVIEW-CAM-2012-MERCEDES-BENZ-E350-COUPE-P2-PANO-SUNROOF-NAV-16K-TEXAS-/400652161525?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5d48bad1f5&item=400652161525&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
Later found out that the passenger power seats were broken. Funny that they listed the vehicle as "vehicle has been inspected". The salesperson promised that they always do the right thing. He mentioned a story about someone buying a vehicle from them only to find out that it had rust damage. He said they did right by him.

Not sure if I want to go through all that just to save $2k-$3k. I mean what if the warranty expires and I find out something was broken right after that.

dkchips

I think you're missing a lot of very important financial points here

First of all if you buy from Texas cars direct or Ecarone and even if you get a good price you don't have a CPO warranty and if you went to Mercedes to buy one you would spend $2500-$4000 to get warranty

Add in the up to $1200 to the car payment rebate from Mercedes and also consider the value of two services it's worth about $1100

On top of that Mercedes in order to have see POS to make sure all the tires are close to new the brake pads and rotors and everything else has to check out perfectly it wouldn't be any broken seats of switches on the CPO vehicle that you're looking at

In order to bring any Ecarone or Texas cars direct car up to the specs of the CPO with all be the perks you would have to spend about $7500 case closed

Dsurr

How did the 2012 drive compared to the 2011?

johnadams

This forum is great!

Ok the black on black was sold. Someone bought it for $34k.

Here is another car I'm looking at



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Looks like a great deal - $38k for a steel grey with 27k miles. What do you guys think?

johnadams

The drive was smooth, with a bit more power but it didn't feel all that different from the 2011. That could just be me though.

johnadams

In terms of options:

P1 package
Rear deck spoiler
wood trim package
amg appearance package
total retail was $57,500

johnadams

Are those prices on ecarone final? Or can they be negotiated down further?

johnadams

you're right, i'm going with the CPO. didn't have a good experience at texasdirectauto

dkchips

Offers $ 33,900for the steel gray coupe and have them throw in an extra year of CPO warranty also check the Carfax on this car it is a great car when you buy CPO's from Mercedes most of the time you will get lease a car return to the original dealer outside

When you outside of the Mercedes dealers and you buy a used Mercedes you take the risk of it coming from the auction or just someone trading it in that trashed it

Run the numbers yourself and see that the CPO tMercedes is such a much better deal than the one at Texas cars direct or that other dealer don't make the mistake of buying outside of the Mercedes CPO

Dsurr

Isn't it true if you buy from anyone as long as there is factory warranty remaining everything is covered? When warranty expires whether CPO or not does not matter. You will probably buy extended warranty either way.

Dsurr

CPO doesn't stand for "Car Perfection Opportunity." But it's hard to fault consumers for thinking that it might. Every advertisement would have you believe that a CPO vehicle is just like new. Ultimately, though, a CPO car is still a used car. It may have gone through a 200-point inspection, but that doesn't mean that 200 parts were replaced.

johnadams

they wouldn't go down in price. apparently it's already on its "final bucket" and they're making a loss on the vehicle. I'd ask about the CPO warranty though, thanks!

Dsurr

Don't put too much stock in certification itself. Inspection checklists should not be relied on as precise indicators of the car's condition, experts say. They are more likely to give you an overall picture of the car's health today, but not for tomorrow.

johnadams

yes. the dealer said he put in almost $6k worth of CPO work into the car like new tires, filters, etc etc.

I'm thinking of holding out for another black ext on black int 2011 e350 coupe. I just think black on black is more impressive than the steel grey. I don't mind cleaning the thing at all, it'll be garage kept!