Takata Air Bag Equipped
08-01-2016, 06:03 PM
#26
Senior Member
[QUOTE=SDRider;6875163]Try not to crash it?
I guess you could ask MB to loan you another Takata equipped car to blow up in your face if you really want it. Seriously, have you seen the list of cars affected by this?[/QU
Could have bought a cheap honda, like a friend of mine, and been in an unaffected vehicle for over a month by now. the mercedes fanboy-ism is crazy. folks we are talking about life or death, no level of love for this company is going to give you your life back if this should fail. they certainly seem to think the cost of having to pay for your claim is less than doing you right. its hilarious, because it's obvious that the love for company is not reciprocated in any way by love for your life.
keep drinking the kool-aid guys. keep drinking it all up.
I guess you could ask MB to loan you another Takata equipped car to blow up in your face if you really want it. Seriously, have you seen the list of cars affected by this?[/QU
Could have bought a cheap honda, like a friend of mine, and been in an unaffected vehicle for over a month by now. the mercedes fanboy-ism is crazy. folks we are talking about life or death, no level of love for this company is going to give you your life back if this should fail. they certainly seem to think the cost of having to pay for your claim is less than doing you right. its hilarious, because it's obvious that the love for company is not reciprocated in any way by love for your life.
keep drinking the kool-aid guys. keep drinking it all up.
08-01-2016, 11:03 PM
#27
Super Member
[QUOTE=nauticalx;6875843]
Not really sure what you expect me to do. If we all take our cars back and demand resolution immediately Mercedes won't be able to handle the request... no car company could.
**** it... I'm going to die at some point in my life, it is inevitable. Hell, I ride a motorcycle to work some days. If I tried to avoid everything that could kill me I'd probably never leave the house.
Try not to crash it?
I guess you could ask MB to loan you another Takata equipped car to blow up in your face if you really want it. Seriously, have you seen the list of cars affected by this?[/QU
Could have bought a cheap honda, like a friend of mine, and been in an unaffected vehicle for over a month by now. the mercedes fanboy-ism is crazy. folks we are talking about life or death, no level of love for this company is going to give you your life back if this should fail. they certainly seem to think the cost of having to pay for your claim is less than doing you right. its hilarious, because it's obvious that the love for company is not reciprocated in any way by love for your life.
keep drinking the kool-aid guys. keep drinking it all up.
I guess you could ask MB to loan you another Takata equipped car to blow up in your face if you really want it. Seriously, have you seen the list of cars affected by this?[/QU
Could have bought a cheap honda, like a friend of mine, and been in an unaffected vehicle for over a month by now. the mercedes fanboy-ism is crazy. folks we are talking about life or death, no level of love for this company is going to give you your life back if this should fail. they certainly seem to think the cost of having to pay for your claim is less than doing you right. its hilarious, because it's obvious that the love for company is not reciprocated in any way by love for your life.
keep drinking the kool-aid guys. keep drinking it all up.
**** it... I'm going to die at some point in my life, it is inevitable. Hell, I ride a motorcycle to work some days. If I tried to avoid everything that could kill me I'd probably never leave the house.
08-01-2016, 11:42 PM
#28
Senior Member
[QUOTE=SDRider;6876102]
Not really sure what you expect me to do. If we all take our cars back and demand resolution immediately Mercedes won't be able to handle the request... no car company could.
**** it... I'm going to die at some point in my life, it is inevitable. Hell, I ride a motorcycle to work some days. If I tried to avoid everything that could kill me I'd probably never leave the house.
Other car companies are handling it. If you went there and politely asked them for a vehicle that isn't affected until yours is fixed and that you're afraid of driving your own vehicle, they would tell you to go fly a kite. Trust me, I've done it.
On another note, someone claiming from the media contacted me wanting to know more and apparently interested in this situation. Maybe they'll run a story or article on it. Let's see. More people need to know! This is not right.
Not really sure what you expect me to do. If we all take our cars back and demand resolution immediately Mercedes won't be able to handle the request... no car company could.
**** it... I'm going to die at some point in my life, it is inevitable. Hell, I ride a motorcycle to work some days. If I tried to avoid everything that could kill me I'd probably never leave the house.
On another note, someone claiming from the media contacted me wanting to know more and apparently interested in this situation. Maybe they'll run a story or article on it. Let's see. More people need to know! This is not right.
08-02-2016, 12:42 AM
#29
Super Member
[QUOTE=nauticalx;6876123]
Other car companies are handling it. If you went there and politely asked them for a vehicle that isn't affected until yours is fixed and that you're afraid of driving your own vehicle, they would tell you to go fly a kite. Trust me, I've done it.
On another note, someone claiming from the media contacted me wanting to know more and apparently interested in this situation. Maybe they'll run a story or article on it. Let's see. More people need to know! This is not right.
I still say if you're that afraid of driving your car (you refer to it as a death trap now), then just trade it in for the Honda you speak of. At the end of the day, you have to feel safe behind the wheel and it's clear this Takata air bag issue has you deeply concerned. Seriously, for your own peace of mind, trade your MB in for a Honda and you'll be able to sleep at night.
As to the air bag issue in general, several major car companies, not just MB, are impacted by this Takata issue and they're all scrambling to find and test a suitable alternative and then retro-fit several hundred thousand cars world-wide. All the car companies are still using terms like several months or a year or two, when asked when they'll finally be able to retro-fit all the cars involved.
I get you think that MB or any of the other car manufacturers impacted should just provide loaner vehicles to whomever asks for one for however long it takes for this recall / retro-fit process to be completed, but as I said before you're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of loaner cars, which they don't have just sitting around, being handed out to existing owners for up to a year or two. Most luxury brand dealerships, not just MB, only have on average between 30 and occasionally up to 50 total loaner cars on their lot. They would need a increase that number by at least a factor of 10 to even begin to hand out the number of free loaner cars you suggest.
I've owned several different luxury brand vehicles over the years and most of these car companies typically provide loaner cars for up to four to eight weeks unless it is a major, one off mechanical issue for a specific customer and the repairs will run a bit longer. None of them just have a massive fleet of loaner cars sitting around should dozens or hundreds of owners just stroll in and say they want a long-term loaner for something like this.
Remember, there is no widely available replacement to the Takata air bags or the impacted car companies would have already sent letters to every customer effected with a specific time frame for them to bring their cars in for the repair. Can't fix what you don't have replacement parts in stock to do the job. So far, the only car company I've ever heard of, and that would be from you by the way, that is willing and able to supply all these free loaner cars to their existing customers on demand, is Honda. So again, for your own peace of mind, the best option for you would be a Honda.
Other car companies are handling it. If you went there and politely asked them for a vehicle that isn't affected until yours is fixed and that you're afraid of driving your own vehicle, they would tell you to go fly a kite. Trust me, I've done it.
On another note, someone claiming from the media contacted me wanting to know more and apparently interested in this situation. Maybe they'll run a story or article on it. Let's see. More people need to know! This is not right.
As to the air bag issue in general, several major car companies, not just MB, are impacted by this Takata issue and they're all scrambling to find and test a suitable alternative and then retro-fit several hundred thousand cars world-wide. All the car companies are still using terms like several months or a year or two, when asked when they'll finally be able to retro-fit all the cars involved.
I get you think that MB or any of the other car manufacturers impacted should just provide loaner vehicles to whomever asks for one for however long it takes for this recall / retro-fit process to be completed, but as I said before you're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of loaner cars, which they don't have just sitting around, being handed out to existing owners for up to a year or two. Most luxury brand dealerships, not just MB, only have on average between 30 and occasionally up to 50 total loaner cars on their lot. They would need a increase that number by at least a factor of 10 to even begin to hand out the number of free loaner cars you suggest.
I've owned several different luxury brand vehicles over the years and most of these car companies typically provide loaner cars for up to four to eight weeks unless it is a major, one off mechanical issue for a specific customer and the repairs will run a bit longer. None of them just have a massive fleet of loaner cars sitting around should dozens or hundreds of owners just stroll in and say they want a long-term loaner for something like this.
Remember, there is no widely available replacement to the Takata air bags or the impacted car companies would have already sent letters to every customer effected with a specific time frame for them to bring their cars in for the repair. Can't fix what you don't have replacement parts in stock to do the job. So far, the only car company I've ever heard of, and that would be from you by the way, that is willing and able to supply all these free loaner cars to their existing customers on demand, is Honda. So again, for your own peace of mind, the best option for you would be a Honda.
08-02-2016, 07:29 AM
#30
Senior Member
[QUOTE=PaulE550;6876144]
I still say if you're that afraid of driving your car (you refer to it as a death trap now), then just trade it in for the Honda you speak of. At the end of the day, you have to feel safe behind the wheel and it's clear this Takata air bag issue has you deeply concerned. Seriously, for your own peace of mind, trade your MB in for a Honda and you'll be able to sleep at night.
As to the air bag issue in general, several major car companies, not just MB, are impacted by this Takata issue and they're all scrambling to find and test a suitable alternative and then retro-fit several hundred thousand cars world-wide. All the car companies are still using terms like several months or a year or two, when asked when they'll finally be able to retro-fit all the cars involved.
I get you think that MB or any of the other car manufacturers impacted should just provide loaner vehicles to whomever asks for one for however long it takes for this recall / retro-fit process to be completed, but as I said before you're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of loaner cars, which they don't have just sitting around, being handed out to existing owners for up to a year or two. Most luxury brand dealerships, not just MB, only have on average between 30 and occasionally up to 50 total loaner cars on their lot. They would need a increase that number by at least a factor of 10 to even begin to hand out the number of free loaner cars you suggest.
I've owned several different luxury brand vehicles over the years and most of these car companies typically provide loaner cars for up to four to eight weeks unless it is a major, one off mechanical issue for a specific customer and the repairs will run a bit longer. None of them just have a massive fleet of loaner cars sitting around should dozens or hundreds of owners just stroll in and say they want a long-term loaner for something like this.
Remember, there is no widely available replacement to the Takata air bags or the impacted car companies would have already sent letters to every customer effected with a specific time frame for them to bring their cars in for the repair. Can't fix what you don't have replacement parts in stock to do the job. So far, the only car company I've ever heard of, and that would be from you by the way, that is willing and able to supply all these free loaner cars to their existing customers on demand, is Honda. So again, for your own peace of mind, the best option for you would be a Honda.
You keep saying the same thing and no one cares. I know what's best for me and don't need your 2 cents.
I still say if you're that afraid of driving your car (you refer to it as a death trap now), then just trade it in for the Honda you speak of. At the end of the day, you have to feel safe behind the wheel and it's clear this Takata air bag issue has you deeply concerned. Seriously, for your own peace of mind, trade your MB in for a Honda and you'll be able to sleep at night.
As to the air bag issue in general, several major car companies, not just MB, are impacted by this Takata issue and they're all scrambling to find and test a suitable alternative and then retro-fit several hundred thousand cars world-wide. All the car companies are still using terms like several months or a year or two, when asked when they'll finally be able to retro-fit all the cars involved.
I get you think that MB or any of the other car manufacturers impacted should just provide loaner vehicles to whomever asks for one for however long it takes for this recall / retro-fit process to be completed, but as I said before you're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of loaner cars, which they don't have just sitting around, being handed out to existing owners for up to a year or two. Most luxury brand dealerships, not just MB, only have on average between 30 and occasionally up to 50 total loaner cars on their lot. They would need a increase that number by at least a factor of 10 to even begin to hand out the number of free loaner cars you suggest.
I've owned several different luxury brand vehicles over the years and most of these car companies typically provide loaner cars for up to four to eight weeks unless it is a major, one off mechanical issue for a specific customer and the repairs will run a bit longer. None of them just have a massive fleet of loaner cars sitting around should dozens or hundreds of owners just stroll in and say they want a long-term loaner for something like this.
Remember, there is no widely available replacement to the Takata air bags or the impacted car companies would have already sent letters to every customer effected with a specific time frame for them to bring their cars in for the repair. Can't fix what you don't have replacement parts in stock to do the job. So far, the only car company I've ever heard of, and that would be from you by the way, that is willing and able to supply all these free loaner cars to their existing customers on demand, is Honda. So again, for your own peace of mind, the best option for you would be a Honda.
08-02-2016, 12:42 PM
#31
Super Member
I had the dealership check my vin and the vin on my wife's CLS and neither car are showing a recall for the air bag inflator problem.
08-02-2016, 03:02 PM
#32
Super Member
[QUOTE=nauticalx;6876254]
And yet you are the one who endlessly keeps saying, over and over again on this thread that nobody else so far seems to agree with, that MB should hand out free loaner cars on demand to everyone or MB is a completely ***** company. No doubt along with every other luxury car company currently in the same boat as MB. That you're forced to drive around in, as you put it, "a death trap". No one is forcing you drive around in "a death trap" as you put it. Just drive one of your other cars until MB issues the recall / retrofit notice with a scheduled time / date for repair or buy yourself the Honda and be done with it. Endlessly whining about how MB won't give you what you want, so their cr@p, accomplishes nothing.
You are of course free to disregard this advice or anyone else's and continue to rant on the subject. It is still a free country. Good luck to you.
You are of course free to disregard this advice or anyone else's and continue to rant on the subject. It is still a free country. Good luck to you.
08-02-2016, 08:06 PM
#33
Senior Member
[QUOTE=PaulE550;6876692]
And yet you are the one who endlessly keeps saying, over and over again on this thread that nobody else so far seems to agree with, that MB should hand out free loaner cars on demand to everyone or MB is a completely ***** company. No doubt along with every other luxury car company currently in the same boat as MB. That you're forced to drive around in, as you put it, "a death trap". No one is forcing you drive around in "a death trap" as you put it. Just drive one of your other cars until MB issues the recall / retrofit notice with a scheduled time / date for repair or buy yourself the Honda and be done with it. Endlessly whining about how MB won't give you what you want, so their cr@p, accomplishes nothing.
You are of course free to disregard this advice or anyone else's and continue to rant on the subject. It is still a free country. Good luck to you.
You mis-characterize and assume other people's positions. Just because you are a fan-boy doesn't mean everyone else is. Don't let the airbag hit you on the way out. I hope it feels good knowing that MB doesn't care two licks about your safety, or at the least, cares less than their bottom line.
There are plenty affected and who care - You have nothing to add.
And yet you are the one who endlessly keeps saying, over and over again on this thread that nobody else so far seems to agree with, that MB should hand out free loaner cars on demand to everyone or MB is a completely ***** company. No doubt along with every other luxury car company currently in the same boat as MB. That you're forced to drive around in, as you put it, "a death trap". No one is forcing you drive around in "a death trap" as you put it. Just drive one of your other cars until MB issues the recall / retrofit notice with a scheduled time / date for repair or buy yourself the Honda and be done with it. Endlessly whining about how MB won't give you what you want, so their cr@p, accomplishes nothing.
You are of course free to disregard this advice or anyone else's and continue to rant on the subject. It is still a free country. Good luck to you.
There are plenty affected and who care - You have nothing to add.
08-02-2016, 09:48 PM
#34
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Now, now boys and girls, let's get back to the subject that I started this thread for to begin with - the sharing of information regarding defective airbags in our benzs.
Something that hasn't been discussed is the fact that the air bags are more prone to set themselves off in hot, humid locations. Like the Deep South of the USofA. So.... If this is where you're located, I'd hightail it to my local dealer or MB customer care center to let them know that you just don't feel at ease driving your coupe/ convo to Disney World and back this summer.
Something that hasn't been discussed is the fact that the air bags are more prone to set themselves off in hot, humid locations. Like the Deep South of the USofA. So.... If this is where you're located, I'd hightail it to my local dealer or MB customer care center to let them know that you just don't feel at ease driving your coupe/ convo to Disney World and back this summer.
08-02-2016, 09:55 PM
#35
Senior Member
Now, now boys and girls, let's get back to the subject that I started this thread for to begin with - the sharing of information regarding defective airbags in our benzs.
Something that hasn't been discussed is the fact that the air bags are more prone to set themselves off in hot, humid locations. Like the Deep South of the USofA. So.... If this is where you're located, I'd hightail it to my local dealer or MB customer care center to let them know that you just don't feel at ease driving your coupe/ convo to Disney World and back this summer.
Something that hasn't been discussed is the fact that the air bags are more prone to set themselves off in hot, humid locations. Like the Deep South of the USofA. So.... If this is where you're located, I'd hightail it to my local dealer or MB customer care center to let them know that you just don't feel at ease driving your coupe/ convo to Disney World and back this summer.
08-03-2016, 10:18 AM
#36
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Back in the '70s, the Ford Pinto was known to have gas tanks that "could explode when the car was rear-ended. My spouse was in outside sales and was assigned one as a work vehicle. When she told her sales manager that she didn't feel safe driving the Pinto, he dismissed her complaint.
I had here write a "memo for record" regarding her concern and she asked that it be put in her personal file. The next day she was assigned a different make car.
Getting things in writing often works much better than verbal communications.
This is very true when liability issues are concerned - verbal communications do not hold up as well as written in a court. Dealing with an insurance company in a claim is a good example.
I had here write a "memo for record" regarding her concern and she asked that it be put in her personal file. The next day she was assigned a different make car.
Getting things in writing often works much better than verbal communications.
This is very true when liability issues are concerned - verbal communications do not hold up as well as written in a court. Dealing with an insurance company in a claim is a good example.
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08-03-2016, 07:58 PM
#37
Senior Member
Back in the '70s, the Ford Pinto was known to have gas tanks that "could explode when the car was rear-ended. My spouse was in outside sales and was assigned one as a work vehicle. When she told her sales manager that she didn't feel safe driving the Pinto, he dismissed her complaint.
I had here write a "memo for record" regarding her concern and she asked that it be put in her personal file. The next day she was assigned a different make car.
Getting things in writing often works much better than verbal communications.
This is very true when liability issues are concerned - verbal communications do not hold up as well as written in a court. Dealing with an insurance company in a claim is a good example.
I had here write a "memo for record" regarding her concern and she asked that it be put in her personal file. The next day she was assigned a different make car.
Getting things in writing often works much better than verbal communications.
This is very true when liability issues are concerned - verbal communications do not hold up as well as written in a court. Dealing with an insurance company in a claim is a good example.
Absent sending them a letter to confirm the outcome of this case, I dont see what else there is that I can do to convince them to do the right thing. I will just stop referring them business. we have several benzes in the family and several others who I have convinced to buy benz. no longer. i will lose the use of my vehicle for a while but they lost a customer and hundreds of thousands in future business. i actually feel more sorry for them actually. the company is really acting contrary to their mottos and tarnishing its fine image for all to see.
08-03-2016, 11:55 PM
#39
Senior Member
Indeed. When a plain-jane car company like honda treats its customers better than a so called premium car company such as mercedes, you know you're being taking for granted. i know I did.
thankfully, I can speak with my wallet and others who rely upon my advice and expertise for guidance.
thankfully, I can speak with my wallet and others who rely upon my advice and expertise for guidance.
08-05-2016, 08:27 PM
#40
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Great news guys - just got a second letter from MBNA, Now the passenger side airbag is included in Recall #201607003 for certain Model Year 2008-2011 MB vehicles.
But wait there's more
"We are working closely with NHTSA and airbag suppliers to provide a remedy. Unfortunately parts are currently not available. As soon as a suitable replacement part is available for your vehicle for your vehicle, we will send you another letter notifying you to bring in your vehicle....
But wait there's more...
"Until this time, there is no action required on your part."
Knowing that I'm now up to date on the latest from MBNA, I can now drive my coupe with peace of mind.
But wait there's more
"We are working closely with NHTSA and airbag suppliers to provide a remedy. Unfortunately parts are currently not available. As soon as a suitable replacement part is available for your vehicle for your vehicle, we will send you another letter notifying you to bring in your vehicle....
But wait there's more...
"Until this time, there is no action required on your part."
Knowing that I'm now up to date on the latest from MBNA, I can now drive my coupe with peace of mind.
08-05-2016, 08:34 PM
#41
Senior Member
Great news guys - just got a second letter from MBNA, Now the passenger side airbag is included in Recall #201607003 for certain Model Year 2008-2011 MB vehicles.
But wait there's more
"We are working closely with NHTSA and airbag suppliers to provide a remedy. Unfortunately parts are currently not available. As soon as a suitable replacement part is available for your vehicle for your vehicle, we will send you another letter notifying you to bring in your vehicle....
But wait there's more...
"Until this time, there is no action required on your part."
Knowing that I'm now up to date on the latest from MBNA, I can now drive my coupe with peace of mind.
But wait there's more
"We are working closely with NHTSA and airbag suppliers to provide a remedy. Unfortunately parts are currently not available. As soon as a suitable replacement part is available for your vehicle for your vehicle, we will send you another letter notifying you to bring in your vehicle....
But wait there's more...
"Until this time, there is no action required on your part."
Knowing that I'm now up to date on the latest from MBNA, I can now drive my coupe with peace of mind.
08-05-2016, 08:49 PM
#42
Member
Take a look at the long list of affected make and models. Sure, Honda is loaning out 10MM vehicles. Sorry, but some of the things said on this forum are a bit ridiculous.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive...vehicles/#list
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive...vehicles/#list
08-05-2016, 08:51 PM
#43
Senior Member
Some people may try to be funny, others are clouded by their fanboyism , the following is why I'm not driving my vehicle Until it's fixed. Hope the airbag doesn't hit you in the eye!
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/03/t...he-dealership/
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/03/t...he-dealership/
Last edited by nauticalx; 08-06-2016 at 12:28 PM.
08-06-2016, 11:02 AM
#44
Senior Member
Thread Starter
This just in....
MBNA has instituted a new program to address faulty air bags in their cars. It has advised its dealers to disable the airbags and affix “Do Not Sit Here” messages to the dashboard.
An update to the above....
This is actually being done by Toyota to address their defective passenger side air bags.
Honda has made no comment on this innovative solution as they run out of loaner cars.
MBNA has instituted a new program to address faulty air bags in their cars. It has advised its dealers to disable the airbags and affix “Do Not Sit Here” messages to the dashboard.
An update to the above....
This is actually being done by Toyota to address their defective passenger side air bags.
Honda has made no comment on this innovative solution as they run out of loaner cars.
08-06-2016, 12:27 PM
#46
Senior Member
same risk of death, same defects, (metal shrapnels upon deployment). there are a ton more hondas on the road and yet given the volume of their vehicles and their much lower price point, they care more about their duty as a carmaker than other companies that claim to be superior. words are cheap, kidos to the company stepping up to the table to the shame of others who simply talk highly.
08-06-2016, 07:19 PM
#47
Super Member
same risk of death, same defects, (metal shrapnels upon deployment). there are a ton more hondas on the road and yet given the volume of their vehicles and their much lower price point, they care more about their duty as a carmaker than other companies that claim to be superior. words are cheap, kidos to the company stepping up to the table to the shame of others who simply talk highly.
Me, I'll stick with my Mercedes.
08-06-2016, 07:46 PM
#48
Senior Member
08-06-2016, 10:12 PM
#49
Super Member
I nominate you for a Nobel Peace Prize for you unending work to save us all.
You're quite the humanitarian.
