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--This looks sick--Cold air intak

Old 03-11-2008, 02:28 PM
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I would steer clear of Dan's setup, its not really a cold air intake, although I am sure it does ingest cold air from the front grill assembly, but its ingesting more hot air then cold.

A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
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If you fabricate a box to surround the filter and feed it cold air(which is what the stock airbox does), and used 3" ABS tubing instead of metal (ABS conducts less heat), then a tube style intake like the ones shown up top wouldn't be bad. If you ensure the intake ingests cold air, and doesn't absorb heat... then an intake that flows better than stock will make more power than stock. Mercedes designed the intake on this car more to reduce intake noise than anything. It's not a bad intake design, just not the perfect design for performance. If a quiet engine isn't more important than power, then the stock intake isn't the best one. You might be surprised by the sound difference between a tubular intake and the stock airbox. It sounds awesome. The car growls.
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Could you post some pics or drawings of what you are talking about? I would possibly like to do something like that to eke out some hidden HP
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Originally Posted by 2PHAST
I would steer clear of Dan's setup, its not really a cold air intake, although I am sure it does ingest cold air from the front grill assembly, but its ingesting more hot air then cold.

A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
If you read my post...I specified SRI not CAI . If you do not think that I get cold air, then at least I have the throttle response, sporty growl, washable filter, and successful ability to pass the emission test to keep .

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Old 03-11-2008, 08:23 PM
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He is referring to a enclosed box like this one in my CLK. It isolates the filter from the engine and help prevents it from sucking in hot air. (This is no longer in my CLK, I replaced it with a factory C36 intake system)

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Originally Posted by Dan_Audio Man
If you read my post...I specified SRI not CAI . If you do not think that I get cold air, then at least I have the throttle response, sporty growl, washable filter, and successful ability to pass the emission test to keep .
"SRI" which you define as short ram intake.
What you have has no "ram" effect at all.
You need a positive pressure area feeding into the intake to have a ram effect.
You're just sucking air from the engine compartment, not pushing air in from an area of higher pressure.
The stock intake has more of a ram effect then what you currently are using.
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
"SRI" which you define as short ram intake.
What you have has no "ram" effect at all.
You need a positive pressure area feeding into the intake to have a ram effect.
You're just sucking air from the engine compartment, not pushing air in from an area of higher pressure.
The stock intake has more of a ram effect then what you currently are using.
I am sucking air from the engine bay while sitting, but air is being scooped into the filter through the large gap infront of it (and next to the radiator) while driving.
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Any pics Dan Audio Man?
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Originally Posted by Dan_Audio Man
I am sucking air from the engine bay while sitting, but air is being scooped into the filter through the large gap infront of it (and next to the radiator) while driving.
With all due respect, in order to get a ram effect you have to have a sealed intake to an area of positive pressure.

If you look at the pix I posted earlier in the thread you'll see a 3.25" hose that terminates in a plenum and has air forced in from where the tow hook cover was removed. This is a true ram effect.

All you are doing is using the engine vacuum to draw the air into the filter...no more, no less and no real gain in power.
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Dan do you have anyway to measure the IAT with your setup? If you did you would clearly see that the ambient temps under the hood could very easily reach 115 degrees at a stop during summer months. While moving the temps would drop by maybe 10-15 degrees.

Not very efficient and a loss of power with those temps since timing will be retarded to prevent knock.
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IMO, the only thing you could possibly do to your intake to make it better, or whatever...Is get a K&N Filter for better air flow. Mercedes spent just about...FOREVER designing these engines to put out the most power and performance available. We're not dealing with Honda Civics here man.
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Then why couldnt the engines come putting out 800+hp stock, if they are so perfectly engineered? Or how about get better fuel economy, not somewhere down in the 5% range of energy efficiency? Come now, dont fool yourself.
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Any pics Dan Audio Man?
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All you are doing is using the engine vacuum to draw the air into the filter...no more, no less and no real gain in power.
I never once stated that I wanted or got more power . I did state this though: "...then at least I have the throttle response, sporty growl, washable filter, and successful ability to pass the emission test to keep."
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Neither a Ram nor a Cold....

HAI FTL.

Dude, I'd rather doubt you have better throttle response as your car will run hotter than any stock engine.

This method is full of Fail
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Wow you all are still stuck on this? Like said before The stock setup is already a cold air intake and is your safest route to keeping foreign things out. If you think about it its a style of ram-air and since it gets air from the radiator the air is cooled to a degree and is as good as it gets. If your not going force fed aka supercharged or turbocharged the best bet is to get a drop in K&N filter which almost all autopart stores will sell from $45-$60. If the Oiling thing is a concern from that point go with AEM they are oil-free. BAMM!!!
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"88 300CE- First Year Production
A question I have for guys with a K&N filter on their w124 does it make your engine alot louder? I wouldn't mind that since alot of us here look so AMG and don't sound it. Speaking of that are there any easy to get a hold of mufflers or exhaust systems that will help our w124's sound more AMG like? Why not ask this since thats what this thread is gonna lead too anyway!

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my next thing is an exhaust too. the universal remus ones go for ~$300, which i guess is not too bad.
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
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"88 300CE- First Year Production
As long as it doesn't sound like an APC Muffler for a Honda at Autozone!!!
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As long as it doesn't sound like an APC Muffler for a Honda at Autozone!!!
Haha...no need for blenders on w124s!
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Dude, I'd rather doubt you have better throttle response as your car will run hotter than any stock engine.
Just look at the photo and think about it. Then come drive it....if only you knew.
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"88 300CE- First Year Production
i can't get a pic to show
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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
my next thing is an exhaust too. the universal remus ones go for ~$300, which i guess is not too bad.
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
We have a few Twin 02 left on sale :
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/twin...v3-p-1125.html
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That didn't answer my question completely, but how loud is the cae with no rear exaust? It does have 2 right?
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